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Dear Linus tech tips community,

 

I'm planning on building my very first PC and need some help choosing the parts since I am overwhelmed with the complexity of the process and don't want to spend money on a pc which is not going to work (duh). I have already had some thoughts about the components but I really need some advice, especially on the CPU, GPU and RAM side, so basically the part that has influence on everything else. For pricing I have about €1.200 (a bit over 1.250USD) of a budget, which should also already include OS and monitor (mouse and keyboard I have). 

I do not want nor need the ultimate 4K, VR, PC-master-race experience, I just want to play new games on high settings with acceptable FPS smoothly. Another idea of this build is also that I am be able to upgrade it over time.

 

Here is what I have thought of by now (no hate please haha):

 

 

CPU: i5-7500 "Kaby Lake" (so here I am clueless of all the different CPU types... if the new AMD CPUs are an option I would appreciate your comments on them)

 

GPU: Radeon RX 470 GAMING X 4GB

 

RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum Series 8GB (on amazon.de I could only find the 16GB package somehow?)

 

Motherboard: MSI 7A62-002R H270 Gaming M3 Mainboard

 

Power supply: 550W Corsair Vengeance (80+ Bronze) (which I guess will change if the the other parts change)

 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB

 

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 100R

 

+ around 100€ for monitor (might have a good deal on a used one)

 

+ around 100€ for OS

 

 

I am very much looking forward to your replies and thank you in advance for your help! :)

 

Cheers from Austria

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Edited by herman mcpootis

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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@Droidbot If you mean whether I will be able to order the parts over amazon.de: Yes I can.

 

Or do you want me to link the parts to amazon.de?

 

EDIT: have linked parts now

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7 minutes ago, dermuffin said:

@Droidbot If you mean whether I will be able to order the parts over amazon.de: Yes I can.

 

Or do you want me to link the parts to amazon.de?

I was just asking if you can purchase from there. Since de.pcpartpicker.com is a very helpful tool for building PCs. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€323.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€59.44 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€53.01 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€95.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  (€395.93 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€73.70 @ Mindfactory) 
Monitor: Asus VS247HR 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  (€123.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1224.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 12:37 CET+0100

 

 

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Keep that power supply, its AMAZING at that price

 

ditch the RAM, get something more affordable, and upgrade to an rx480 4gb

Personal build >  New-ish AMD main gaming setup           

   PLEASE QUOTE OR @ ME FOR A RESPONSE xD 

 

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1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

 

 

keep the corsair vengance, its a Tier1 modular supply. 

Personal build >  New-ish AMD main gaming setup           

   PLEASE QUOTE OR @ ME FOR A RESPONSE xD 

 

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Just now, Megah3rtz said:

keep the corsair vengance, its a Tier1 modular supply. 

ts is t2 and cheaper, who cares

idk

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€183.84 @ Mindfactory) mindfactory ships to austria.
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€52.73 @ Mindfactory) find out if the bios supports kabylake.
Memory: Corsair ValueSelect 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€103.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB NITRO Video Card  (€283.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (€31.81 @ Mindfactory) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€62.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (€99.85 @ Mindfactory) 
Monitor: AOC G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€253.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Other: Sandisk SSD Plus 240GB (€71.84)
Total: €1193.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 12:38 CET+0100

 

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Hi dude,

 

Personaly i think the ram is a bit overkill for your system there and i definitly think you could have a few pennies in this area if you are not wanting to spend as much.

Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TY6A1P0/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

If you are wanting to have a good gaming experience i think you will need a little more for a monitor, they are one of the key parts of any battle station.

 

 

Don't Lose Your Dinosaur!

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3 minutes ago, ShavedCloaca said:

Hi dude,

 

Personaly i think the ram is a bit overkill for your system there and i definitly think you could have a few pennies in this area if you are not wanting to spend as much.

Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TY6A1P0/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

If you are wanting to have a good gaming experience i think you will need a little more for a monitor, they are one of the key parts of any battle station.

 

 

Thank you for the tip! Leaves more money for the monitor haha

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7 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

I was just asking if you can purchase from there. Since de.pcpartpicker.com is a very helpful tool for building PCs. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€323.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€59.44 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€53.01 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€95.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  (€395.93 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€73.70 @ Mindfactory) 
Monitor: Asus VS247HR 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  (€123.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1224.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 12:37 CET+0100

 

 

Thank you for your answer, but I think the other recommended parts where more in my price budget!

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2 minutes ago, dermuffin said:

Thank you for your answer, but I think the other recommended parts where more in my price budget!

You could swap out the GPU with the R9 Fury, it's a very good value and about 100EUR cheaper. Windows you can get from Kinguin for 30EUR around

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6 minutes ago, dermuffin said:

In this build you suggest the Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card which is priced at 416€... would my initial MSI Radeon RX 470 GAMING X 4GB work for this as well?

yeah, although I suggest a 480 which sits nicely between both 1070 and 470.

 

this looks great for 30 euro more 

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/29wqqs/xfx-radeon-rx-480-8gb-rs-video-card-rx-480p8lfb6

 

:EDIT re-reading whta you said, the 470 is not nearly as powerful as the 1070 

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if you can get windows from reddit for $20-30 USD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€264.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€45.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€102.64 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB NITRO Video Card  (€283.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: NOX Hummer ZX Zero Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (€62.03 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Other: Acer GN246HLBbid 24 inch Wide FHD LED Gaming Monitor with 144 Hz, 1 ms, 350 nits, DVI, HDMI, Acer EcoDisplay  (€239.00) from amazon germany.
Other: Corsair CP-9020102-EU CXM Serie CX550M ATX/EPS Teil-Modular 80 Plus Bronze 550W, Netzteil, EU  (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Other: Sandisk SSD Plus 240GB (€71.84) from mindfactory
Total: €1178.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 12:57 CET+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

if you can get windows from reddit for $20-30 USD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€264.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€45.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€102.64 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€49.25 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB NITRO Video Card  (€283.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: NOX Hummer ZX Zero Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (€62.03 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Other: Acer GN246HLBbid 24 inch Wide FHD LED Gaming Monitor with 144 Hz, 1 ms, 350 nits, DVI, HDMI, Acer EcoDisplay  (€239.00) from amazon germany.
Other: Corsair CP-9020102-EU CXM Serie CX550M ATX/EPS Teil-Modular 80 Plus Bronze 550W, Netzteil, EU  (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Other: Sandisk SSD Plus 240GB (€71.84) from mindfactory
Total: €1178.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 12:57 CET+0100

this is nice i like this one!

Don't Lose Your Dinosaur!

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3 minutes ago, UMxMarky94 said:

with a mointor

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LZyCKZ

What about this? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€323.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€52.73 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€107.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€95.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB XXX OC  Video Card  (€222.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Nanoxia DS1WIB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€19.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€62.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€267.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1152.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 13:12 CET+0100

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What about this? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€323.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€52.73 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€107.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€95.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB XXX OC  Video Card  (€222.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Nanoxia DS1WIB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€19.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€62.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€267.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1152.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 13:12 CET+0100

why the i7 why not get a i5 and save the 100 Euro ?

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Just now, UMxMarky94 said:

why the i7 why not get a i5 and save the 100 Euro ?

more and more games are taking advantage of more threads and cores, i5 doesn't cut it anymore for games today and tomorrow

 

far cry 4 for example there's like a 30fps gain between i5 and i7

 

 

idk

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Update from my side:

 

You guys gave me amazing tips, thank you for that! I didn't expect that prices could vary as much as they did so I think I have found a good compromise with saving a lot of money for a monitor for example.

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/XVKrLD

(thank you so much for this website!)

 

EDIT: and maybe a bit more budget for an i7? Or even an AMD CPU: what about those I heard they were better value?)

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7 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Case: Nanoxia DS1WIB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€19.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

i think that is actually just the side panel and not the actual case :P

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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