Ryzen not fully utilized

[the MBK]

This video is  in german, so most of you won't understand what they are talking about but if you look at the cpu utilization in some games compared to the 5960X and the 6900k you will see Ryzen gets a bit less utilized in those scenarios, so the claim of AMD that it is just a optimisation problem seems now even more valid.

[EPPHO]

13 minutes ago, the MBK said:

This video is  in german, so most of you won't understand what they are talking about but if you look at the cpu utilization in some games compared to the 5960X and the 6900k you will see Ryzen gets a bit less utilized in those scenarios, so the claim of AMD that it is just a optimisation problem seems now even more valid.

This makes literally 0 sense

[rjfaber91]

10 minutes ago, the MBK said:

the claim of AMD that it is just a optimisation problem seems now even more valid.

Didn't know AMD even went out and claimed that, but we've all known that Zen isn't very well optimised for, nor could it be. It's different enough to both older AMD microarchitectures and contemporary Intel ones that it won't do well with code optimised for either of those, and it's new enough for no game developers having had serious time with it yet.

[Squibbies18]

10 minutes ago, the MBK said:

This video is  in german, so most of you won't understand what they are talking about but if you look at the cpu utilization in some games compared to the 5960X and the 6900k you will see Ryzen gets a bit less utilized in those scenarios, so the claim of AMD that it is just a optimisation problem seems now even more valid.

If you watched the most recent WAN show, i think that the point linus made about the whole amd response the 1080p benchmarks on the 1800x is quite valid, amd hasn't had a new cpu out for years so its not surprising that at the moment games run better on intels platform and in the next few years hopefully as there is better support for the ryzen cpu's we should hopefully be able to see the difference be almost non existent.

 

[Starry_air]

2 hours ago, frozeNNN said:

This makes literally 0 sense

It does make some sense. It wouldn't if the comparison were made with a quad core or a hexa core. If you compare the utilization of two octa core processors, and one is utilized less which results in worse performance, you may ask why it is utilized less. It would seem logical to say "Ryzen is worse for gaming because at the same or higher level of utilization by game engine the performance is inferior", wouldn't it? Not: because it is not utilized as much as the competitor. Then of course I don't really know much about these things - I only point out what seems more logical to me, a layman. 

[EPPHO]

12 hours ago, Starry_air said:

It does make some sense. It wouldn't if the comparison were made with a quad core or a hexa core. If you compare the utilization of two octa core processors, and one is utilized less which results in worse performance, you may ask why it is utilized less. It would seem logical to say "Ryzen is worse for gaming because at the same or higher level of utilization by game engine the performance is inferior", wouldn't it? Not: because it is not utilized as much as the competitor. Then of course I don't really know much about these things - I only point out what seems more logical to me, a layman. 

This would be valid if the comparison is between 2 same CPUs from same line-up and architecture