Need CPU for Gaming

[yanfqc]

Hi!

I checked games fps comparison with these two processors (i3-6100 and FX-8350) and they're about the same in most game. I'd like to know why since the I3 has 2 cores at 3,7 ghz and the fx has 8 cores (4 physical) at 4 ghz. The FX also have more cache memory. The i3 have hyper threading...

 

I'm really not an expert so if someone could explain that to me as simple as possible it would be appreciated  

[The Sloth]

depends on the game, amd fx has really bad IPC

[Purphoros]

My experience with a FX-8120 was terrible, I used it for 6 years but when I upgraded to a decent Intel processor I was blown away by how much I was missing.  I really don't recommend going with an old AMD processor.  If you can save your money and get an i5, my 6600k rocks, if you don't want to wait or don't have the time, get the Intel, and upgrade in the future, the FX-8350 will leave your unsatisfied.

[Squibbies18]

4 minutes ago, yanfqc said:

Hi!

I checked games fps comparison with these two processors (i3-6100 and FX-8350) and they're about the same in most game. I'd like to know why since the I3 has 2 cores at 3,7 ghz and the fx has 8 cores (4 physical) at 4 ghz. The FX also have more cache memory. The i3 have hyper threading...

 

I'm really not an expert so if someone could explain that to me as simple as possible it would be appreciated  

well personally i'd go with the i3 as it gives you a good upgrade path later, if you buy an FX cpu now regardless of if it performs better you'll have to upgrade/change a lot of components if you want to upgrade later on down the line

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, yanfqc said:

Hi!

I checked games fps comparison with these two processors (i3-6100 and FX-8350) and they're about the same in most game. I'd like to know why since the I3 has 2 cores at 3,7 ghz and the fx has 8 cores (4 physical) at 4 ghz. The FX also have more cache memory. The i3 have hyper threading...

 

I'm really not an expert so if someone could explain that to me as simple as possible it would be appreciated  

IPC. Each FX's core run slower. It's not abot only gigahertz. you can have a truck with 8 wheels and more horsepower yet will still run slower than a 2 wheel motorbile

[Guest]

Just now, wrathoftheturkey said:

(that analogy is closer to a greater workload, but whatever)

sorry i don't much bout cars

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, yanfqc said:

 

The intel chip has like 50% more single threaded performance

 

but the FX chip will have more multi-threaded performance, however most games don't fully utilize 8 threads
 

In any case, Ryzen kills the FX and intel low end potentially, but they're taking way too long to come out with Ryzen 3&5

*Are you planning to buy a PC or something? Because the G4560 is the new budget PC standard

[yanfqc]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The intel chip has like 50% more single threaded performance

 

but the FX chip will have more multi-threaded performance, however most games don't fully utilize 8 threads
 

In any case, Ryzen kills the FX and intel low end potentially, but they're taking way too long to come out with Ryzen 3&5

*Are you planning to buy a PC or something? Because the G4560 is the new budget PC standard

I'm trying to build a budget pc yeah... like a 825$ CAD pc (with tax and shipping it cost around 950$ so I don't really want to go higher than that). I've made a topic an hour ago on a specific build to get "appraisal", but I didn't get the G4560 suggestion yet! Here's what my build looks like for now https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9Mk2Z8 

I'll check that G4560 tomorrow, I'm in Belgium right now and it's 3 am! Pretty tired haha

 

Thanks all for your help! It's really appreciated! I like how I can ask questions around here and there's always many people ready to help me out!

[That_PC_Kid]

The FX series of CPUs is obsolete. Just get a 7th Generation Intel Pentium if price is an issue. Also the single core performance is horrible on the FX chips.

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, yanfqc said:

I'm trying to build a budget pc yeah... like a 825$ CAD pc (with tax and shipping it cost around 950$ so I don't really want to go higher than that). I've made a topic an hour ago on a specific build to get "appraisal", but I didn't get the G4560 suggestion yet! Here's what my build looks like for now https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9Mk2Z8 

I'll check that G4560 tomorrow, I'm in Belgium right now and it's 3 am! Pretty tired haha

 

Thanks all for your help! It's really appreciated! I like how I can ask questions around here and there's always many people ready to help me out!

Ya naw man, don't get a kingston SSD, the Mushkin ECO 3 here is cheap and even has a cache

 

Going for a cheap motherboard mostly as you'll probably want to switch to ryzen in the coming months instead of sticking to intel with an i7 as you'll get more cores/threads at the same price, just need to replace the motherboard naturally

Don't buy an OEM key if you're going to buy windows, but you don't need to buy a windows 10 key to install windows 10, you can just make a bootable USB straight from microsoft and install it no problem, just can't change your background

And you already have a hard drive or something to use for mass storage?
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nj3Lqk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nj3Lqk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($74.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  ($249.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($54.76 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $769.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[asand1]

4 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Don't buy an OEM key if you're going to buy windows, but you don't need to buy a windows 10 key to install windows 10, you can just make a bootable USB straight from microsoft and install it no problem, just can't change your background
 

You can still change your desktop wallpaper by right clicking your photos and left clicking "Set as desktop background"

[Streetguru]

Just now, asand1 said:

You can still change your desktop wallpaper by right clicking your photos and left clicking "Set as desktop background"

There's other ways around it as well, but in windows 7 at least it'll reset to a black background after a while

[Krillingt75961]

4 hours ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

(that analogy is closer to a greater workload, but whatever)

You can have a V8 that makes 200 HP or you can have a V8 that makes 500 HP. Both have 8 cylinders but obviously one does more work for what it has. Think that might be better than the other one.

[hellochicken]

I believe that the problem is that the number of cores doesn't matter when the cores are fairly out of date and they don't communicate properly to each other