Overclocking problems, CPU Freeze

[phongle123]

So, I have overclocked my CPU, it runs fine. CPU starts just fine, everything works just fine. But however sometimes when I start a game, the computer just freezes.

This has never happened on the first game start, maybe the 2nd, usually the 3rd game start.

 

For example, I start said game. I close it, I start it again. I close it. I start it again, before the game even opens up, the computer freezes, no black screen, no blue screen. It just freezes where it was when I click to start the game. Nothing responds, when I click CAPSLOCK on keyboard the CAPSLOCK LIGHT doesn't turn on so it's just frozen.

 

I have run stress tests and it works just fine.

http://valid.x86.fr/1ziaft

 

I also want to mention I did not manually set anything. It was set automatically through XMP.

XMP automatically set Fixed Voltage to 1.9V

[Aaronius_Leonius]

Do you have this problem without the overclock?

[phongle123]

1 minute ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Do you have this problem without the overclock?

Nope.

[Aaronius_Leonius]

2 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

Nope.

What stress test did you use?

[phongle123]

16 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Do you have this problem without the overclock?

AIDA 64, PRIME95, CPUID CPU-Z

Also it just froze randomly not just from a game start

[RileyTheFox]

28 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

So, I have overclocked my CPU, it runs fine. CPU starts just fine, everything works just fine. But however sometimes when I start a game, the computer just freezes.

This has never happened on the first game start, maybe the 2nd, usually the 3rd game start.

 

For example, I start said game. I close it, I start it again. I close it. I start it again, before the game even opens up, the computer freezes, no black screen, no blue screen. It just freezes where it was when I click to start the game. Nothing responds, when I click CAPSLOCK on keyboard the CAPSLOCK LIGHT doesn't turn on so it's just frozen.

 

I have run stress tests and it works just fine.

http://valid.x86.fr/1ziaft

 

I also want to mention I did not manually set anything. It was set automatically through XMP.

XMP automatically set Fixed Voltage to 1.9V

1.9V????? Jesus dude turn that down. Manually overclock the CPU. The massive voltage is probably what's causing issues

[phongle123]

1 minute ago, EvilCat70 said:

1.9V????? Jesus dude turn that down. Manually overclock the CPU. The massive voltage is probably what's causing issues

Just did XMP for it to 4.0 GHz, and the Voltage is set to AUTO. it still happens

[RileyTheFox]

1 minute ago, phongle123 said:

Just did XMP for it to 4.0 GHz, and the Voltage is set to AUTO. it still happens

I would never go for Auto voltages. They can be incredibly high. Instead, take the time to tinker around with the voltage manually.

[phongle123]

Just gonna do the same 4.4GHz XMP but changing the voltage to 1.35v manually instead of the automatic 1.90v and will report back within 15 mins if it crashes or not.

[Droidbot]

5 minutes ago, EvilCat70 said:

1.9V????? Jesus dude turn that down. Manually overclock the CPU. The massive voltage is probably what's causing issues

X99 uses higher voltages than mainstream.

 

Just took a look at the Haswell-E owners club for OC stats, 1.32/1.35v seems to be good. 

[RileyTheFox]

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

X99 uses higher voltages than mainstream.

 

Just took a look at the Haswell-E owners club for OC stats, 1.32/1.35v seems to be good. 

Maybe so, but no CPU should be getting 1.9V

[done12many2]

15 minutes ago, EvilCat70 said:

1.9V????? Jesus dude turn that down. Manually overclock the CPU. The massive voltage is probably what's causing issues

6 minutes ago, EvilCat70 said:

Maybe so, but no CPU should be getting 1.9V

 

The 1.9v is his CPU Input voltage (VCCIN).  Completely normal for x99.

 

[Napalm360]

28 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

AIDA 64, PRIME95, CPUID CPU-Z

Also it just froze randomly not just from a game start

DO NOT USE PRIME95 As it pushes your hardware so hard that it can accually cause damage, stick with Aida64, I started at stock speeds, increased multiplier by 50mhz, if it booted great, done a couple benchmarks to see if stable, if it blue screens I increase voltage by 0.005v and if it boots great, rinse and repeat

[phongle123]

I did the XMP for 4.4 and 4.0 and set the Fixed Voltage to 1.35v and the computer got to where the Windows logo is to sign into desktop then it freezes and restarts the computer and just loops.

[phongle123]

18 minutes ago, Napalm360 said:

DO NOT USE PRIME95 As it pushes your hardware so hard that it can accually cause damage, stick with Aida64, I started at stock speeds, increased multiplier by 50mhz, if it booted great, done a couple benchmarks to see if stable, if it blue screens I increase voltage by 0.005v and if it boots great, rinse and repeat

So starting from stock, All I do is change the Multiplayer and the Fixed Voltage, leave everything else alone?

[Aaronius_Leonius]

10 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

I did the XMP for 4.4 and 4.0 and set the Fixed Voltage to 1.35v and the computer got to where the Windows logo is to sign into desktop then it freezes and restarts the computer and just loops.

You can still access your bios right? Disable XMP if you can. It seems to be causing problems. Also reset to default settings. You don't need XMP because memory speeds don't matter and the only other difference it makes is on your CPU. 

[phongle123]

2 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

You can still access your bios right? Disable XMP if you can. It seems to be causing problems. Also reset to default settings. You don't need XMP because memory speeds don't matter and the only other difference it makes is on your CPU. 

Yes, it starts off normally but loops when it gets to the point where you're supposed to put in your password and log in.

[Aaronius_Leonius]

1 minute ago, phongle123 said:

So starting from stock, All I do is change the Multiplayer and the Fixed Voltage, leave everything else alone?

Yes

[Aaronius_Leonius]

3 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

Yes, it starts off normally but loops when it gets to the point where you're supposed to put in your password and log in.

Good. Just run at stock settings and next time, manually set your voltage. Make sure your CPU runs under 80 degrees. I would actually not let it go below 75 just in case a game is really CPU intensive

[phongle123]

41 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Good. Just run at stock settings and next time, manually set your voltage. Make sure your CPU runs under 80 degrees. I would actually not let it go below 75 just in case a game is really CPU intensive

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

This was my first time manually overclocking rather than using XMP, I was changing the Input Voltage in the Voltage Tab which was the wrong one. Was supposed to change the Voltage in the FIVR Tab. Chaning the Input voltage to 1.31 from AUTO or 1.9v didn't let me pass the password screen.

 

Changed it to auo and changed multiplier in CPU Tab to 45 and Auto Voltage in FIVR tab to Adaptive Voltage and input Adaptive Voltage as 1.31v.

 

It has logged in. Now for a stress test.

 

[phongle123]

Okay, I tried to do 4.5Ghz @1.2v and @1.21v and froze at desktop immediately, @1.22v it didn't freeze. How long should I run an AIDA64 for to make sure it's stable? I've usually only run it 10-15minutes because I don't want it to run 100% for a long time for no reason.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, phongle123 said:

Okay, I tried to do 4.5Ghz @1.2v and @1.21v and froze at desktop immediately, @1.22v it didn't freeze. How long should I run an AIDA64 for to make sure it's stable? I've usually only run it 10-15minutes because I don't want it to run 100% for a long time for no reason.

 

Run it as long as you need to feel comfortable.  It's your setup so if you are willing to risk it with shorter stability test, do so.  It only needs to be as stable as you need it to be.

[phongle123]

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Run it as long as you need to feel comfortable.  It's your setup so if you are willing to risk it with shorter stability test, do so.  It only needs to be as stable as you need it to be.

How long would you suggest it?

Also, if my BIOS is set to 1.22v but CPUID CPU-Z shows 1.234v that is fine?

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, phongle123 said:

How long would you suggest it?

Also, if my BIOS is set to 1.2v but CPUID CPU-Z shows 1.234v that is fine?

 

I'd suggest downloading RealBench 2.44 from here and running it at least for a couple of hours.  Asus recommends 4, but 2 or more should be fine.

 

RealBench is great because it puts your entire system (CPU + GPU) under load at one time.  If you are barely AIDA64 stable, you will probably will not pass this so be prepared to add a bit of Vcore voltage in order to pass.

[phongle123]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I'd suggest downloading RealBench 2.44 from here and running it at least for a couple of hours.  Asus recommends 4, but 2 or more should be fine.

 

RealBench is great because it puts your entire system (CPU + GPU) under load at one time.  If you are barely AIDA64 stable, you will probably will not pass this so be prepared to add a bit of Vcore voltage in order to pass.

Okay, thanks. I think I'll use RealBench and do some testing for now. I also read somewhere 5 mins ago that after 4.4Ghz more voltage is needed than normal, so I'll probably do a max of 4.4Ghz to get even lower voltage. Thanks all for your help.