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1440p is a huge upgrade, it's night and day from 1080p

koji
By koji
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Hello. I've been using 1080p Native Monitor ever since so I cant really tell. But I want this to be discussed. Isn't it the reason we'll get 1440p is because we want small pixels or higher pixel density on our screens?

 

I've been using AMD's Virtual Super Resolution for my 1080p Native Monitor. It renders 1440p images for my desktop and games and downscales it to 1080p. Basically it's like applying an extra layer of Anti Aliasing if i'm not mistaken.

 

It may not be exactly the same with 1440p but it comes close, or is it? I hope you can share your thoughts not your feelings. :) Because most users share their feelings, usually when you purchase something it's given that you'll over-appreciate it because you picked it yourself and invested on it. So please let's keep the answers logical. :D

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I switch from 768x13xx to 1440p and it's freaking ridiculous, honestly wasn't expecting to have to make everything larger/zoom in. I miss using my old tv as a monitor xD

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no it's nothing like 1440p native. YOu're only making 1080p look blurrier.

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2 minutes ago, Majestic said:

no it's nothing like 1440p native. YOu're only making 1080p look blurrier.

If i'm making only 1080p look blurrier then I should've turned it off a long time ago. I hope we discuss things logically. 

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5 minutes ago, koji said:

If i'm making only 1080p look blurrier then I should've turned it off a long time ago. I hope we discuss things logically. 

Any non-native resolution is going to look blurrier. Becuase it's non-native. (interpolation) I think you are the one who isn't looking at things logically. 

WHat do you want to hear exactly, because honesty doesn't appear to be it.

Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power!

Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.
Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions.

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Not isn't the same at all. You can't physically change the number of pixels on the screen. All you do is screw up windows scaling and make games much harder to run

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18 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Not isn't the same at all. You can't physically change the number of pixels on the screen. All you do is screw up windows scaling and make games much harder to run

yh super-resolution is really stupid, it just makes windows look awful on 1080p displays. pixel-for-pixel will always look better than scaled. As for the title of this topic though, if you think 1080p to 1440p is a jump, i went from 1080p 22" to UHD 28" lol, first time i saw my desktop i just laughed, its like having new eyes. I'm not gonna say 1080p looks crap now cos it clearly doesnt, but it's really noticeable in windows, after getting used to the perfect(ish) text scaling at UHD and having razor sharp text all the time, text looks so blurry and crap at 1080p, reminds me of jaggies in PC games when you have no AA, same thing i guess

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2 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

yh super-resolution is really stupid, it just makes windows look awful on 1080p displays. pixel-for-pixel will always look better than scaled. As for the title of this topic though, if you think 1080p to 1440p is a jump, i went from 1080p 22" to UHD 28" lol, first time i saw my desktop i just laughed, its like having new eyes. I'm not gonna say 1080p looks crap now cos it clearly doesnt, but it's really noticeable in windows, after getting used to the perfect(ish) text scaling at UHD and having razor sharp text all the time, text looks so blurry and crap at 1080p, reminds me of jaggies in PC games when you have no AA, same thing i guess

I will agree 1440p looks great and you can run games very well but 4K still looks much much better than 1440p and 1080p.

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Another thing that plays along even with native resolutions is screen size. Think about the 1440p and 4k phones: if the screen size is to small there is less use for it, despite being a better image. But higher resolutions and better details are imo very important for game experience.

 

But agree that such a thing OP mentions is nto entirely the same, but a in between step. Msot will look better, but some things look less good as they are intended to.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I will agree 1440p looks great and you can run games very well but 4K still looks much much better than 1440p and 1080p.

yeah the ratio of extra visual prettyness to extra required horsepower is way better at the 1440p mark, its not really that much harder to render than 1080p, but it looks soooo much better.

 

3840x2160 is real heavy to churn out but oh boy is it shiny.

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2 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

yeah the ratio of extra visual prettyness to extra required horsepower is way better at the 1440p mark, its not really that much harder to render than 1080p, but it looks soooo much better.

 

3840x2160 is real heavy to churn out but oh boy is it shiny.

 I feel since we are getting 4K 144hz monitors soon that the next gen GPUs should be able to handle 4K 144hz 

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12 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

 I feel since we are getting 4K 144hz monitors soon that the next gen GPUs should be able to handle 4K 144hz 

not a chance, displays are always far ahead of GPU's that power them, very few people can actually max out bleeding edge displays, basically industry only. Did you see the 144hz 4K display they had at CES this year ? Linus guessed SLI P6000's which got a worried smile from the guy in the booth which says it all. if true, they were running that display off £10,000 worth of GPU lol.

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

 I feel since we are getting 4K 144hz monitors soon that the next gen GPUs should be able to handle 4K 144hz 

Nope. 1080 cant even run 4K 60Hz steady...

Expecting next gen to have more than double the power is not gonna get Nvidia nowhere because less people could afford such card than people can afford VR right now...

 

4K 144Hz single card is good 2-3 years away :(

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Jup. But it  also depends on the game as always. 2 Titan Xp's can just touch 60 fps in GTA V maxed out, let alone 144 Hz. expect 2 gen cards further atleast.

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