Upgrading a pre-build

[ItsKevin]

A friend of mine has a pre-build system with an i5 2320 and a GT530 and he wants to play gta5 with my other friends and me.

His system is obviously not able to run gta comfortably so I'm thinking of upgrading his GT530 to either a 1050Ti or a 1060 (And psu if necessary) 

 

I'm just not really sure which of the two cards is better.

 

[R3ep3r]

What PSU does he have?

[MVPernula]

Most prebuilds only have a PSU that just exactly meets the requirements so a new one will most likely be necessary.

 

Aside from that the 1060 beats the 1050ti by miles in performance. Unsure if your processor will bottleneck.

[G27Racer_188]

3 minutes ago, ItsKevin said:

A friend of mine has a pre-build system with an i5 2320 and a GT530 and he wants to play gta5 with my other friends and me.

His system is obviously not able to run gta comfortably so I'm thinking of upgrading his GT530 to either a 1050Ti or a 1060 (And psu if necessary) 

 

I'm just not really sure which of the two cards is better.

 

Well 1060 is a more powerful card, so technically it is better, but depending on the version of the 1050ti it may not need additional power, so you may not need to change the psu.

Also what amount of ram is in that machine. If it is less than 8GB, you should upgrade to 8 GB.

[manikyath]

first of all, i'd suggest gathering about as much details about the prebuilt as you can find, because that'll greatly influence options.

[ItsKevin]

3 minutes ago, R3ep3r said:

What PSU does he have?

 

2 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Most prebuilds only have a PSU that just exactly meets the requirements so a new one will most likely be necessary.

 

Aside from that the 1060 beats the 1050ti by miles in performance. Unsure if your processor will bottleneck.

 

1 minute ago, G27Racer_188 said:

Well 1060 is a more powerful card, so technically it is better, but depending on the version of the 1050ti it may not need additional power, so you may not need to change the psu.

Also what amount of ram is in that machine. If it is less than 8GB, you should upgrade to 8 GB.

I don't know what psu he has, we still have to figure that out.

Not that a new psu is that expensive

 

the GT530 is a pcie 2.0 card so his motherboard has a chance of being a pcie 2.0 board

 

he has 8gb ram

[grimreeper132]

10 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Most prebuilds only have a PSU that just exactly meets the requirements so a new one will most likely be necessary.

 

Aside from that the 1060 beats the 1050ti by miles in performance. Unsure if your processor will bottleneck.

you say that, but I have a prebuild that only needs about 150W and has a 550W, so it depends

[G27Racer_188]

3 minutes ago, ItsKevin said:

 

 

I don't know what psu he has, we still have to figure that out.

Not that a new psu is that expensive

 

the GT530 is a pcie 2.0 card so his motherboard has a chance of being a pcie 2.0 board

 

he has 8gb ram

Well if you can fit a decent psu and a 1060 in the budget, than that would give the best performance.

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, G27Racer_188 said:

Well if you can fit a decent psu and a 1060 in the budget, than that would give the best performance.

that PCIe 2.0 might bottleneck it so you  don't get any extra proformance, so maybe not

[G27Racer_188]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

that PCIe 2.0 might bottleneck it so you  don't get any extra proformance, so maybe not

PCIe 2.0 won't bottleneck it at all. 2.0 16x doesn't bottleneck even more powerful cards, definitely not a 1060.

[MVPernula]

9 minutes ago, ItsKevin said:

 

 

I don't know what psu he has, we still have to figure that out.

Not that a new psu is that expensive

 

the GT530 is a pcie 2.0 card so his motherboard has a chance of being a pcie 2.0 board

 

he has 8gb ram

PSU's are pretty expensive, don't cheap out on it. REALLY never cheap out on a PSU.

You can easily find all of the specs for the PC if you know the model name for the prebuild.

 

8GB is fine for gaming purposes.

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, G27Racer_188 said:

PCIe 2.0 won't bottleneck it at all. 2.0 16x doesn't bottleneck even more powerful cards, definitely not a 1060.

does it not, nevermind then, I thought I had seen somewhere that it did

[MVPernula]

6 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

you say that, but I have a prebuild that only needs about 150W and has a 550W, so it depends

I also mean that they generally cheap out, they are trash. They can say 550W but wont actually support more that 300W and so forth.

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, MVPernula said:

I also mean that they generally cheap out, they are trash. They can say 550W but wont actually support more that 300W and so forth.

possibly, I mean I have no 6 or 8 pins on it so I can't install a GPU, that and currently it wants to be a bumble bee or a himalayan throat singer, (it's dreams change daily) but it has plenty of power for my usage

[iRileyx]

posted on the wrong thread ;-; 

[ItsKevin]

He has a Acer Aspire M397, can't find anything about the psu though 

[MVPernula]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

possibly, I mean I have no 6 or 8 pins on it so I can't install a GPU, that and currently it wants to be a bumble bee or a himalayan throat singer, (it's dreams change daily) but it has plenty of power for my usage

You should look up Linus' videos about prebilds PSU's.

HINT: HE HATES THEM

[R3ep3r]

If you want to cheap out you can also use an adapter to connect a 6 or 8 pin GPU but I do not recommend you that!

I was in the same situation(it was not a prebuilt tho) and instead of going cheaper with the adapters I bought both the GPU and the PSU ((1050ti OC Windforce with 6pin and a Corsair VS550))

[ItsKevin]

39 minutes ago, G27Racer_188 said:

Well 1060 is a more powerful card, so technically it is better, but depending on the version of the 1050ti it may not need additional power, so you may not need to change the psu.

Also what amount of ram is in that machine. If it is less than 8GB, you should upgrade to 8 GB.

 

28 minutes ago, G27Racer_188 said:

Well if you can fit a decent psu and a 1060 in the budget, than that would give the best performance.

 

23 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

PSU's are pretty expensive, don't cheap out on it. REALLY never cheap out on a PSU.

You can easily find all of the specs for the PC if you know the model name for the prebuild.

 

8GB is fine for gaming purposes.

SO a 1060 + a new psu should the best solution.

 

Something like the corsair CX450m would be able to do the trick.

[G27Racer_188]

@ItsKevin It would work but it is not a "meh" psu. Something like EVGA 600 B or 550G2 would be much better.

 

Maybe give us a link to the store where you would buy to see what other options are available in your country. and the budget for the psu.

[ItsKevin]

10 minutes ago, G27Racer_188 said:

@ItsKevin It would work but it is not a "meh" psu. Something like EVGA 600 B or 550G2 would be much better.

 

Maybe give us a link to the store where you would buy to see what other options are available in your country. and the budget for the psu.

It's pretty much the dutch pcpartpicker

 

psu's:

https://tweakers.net/categorie/664/voedingen/producten/

 

gpu's:

https://tweakers.net/categorie/49/videokaarten/producten/

[G27Racer_188]

@ItsKevin

PSU

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/349127/cooler-master-gm-g650m/specificaties/

 

GPU

cheap: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/567235/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gt-oc.html

small if space is an issue: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/567243/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-6gb.html

good for more money: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/567281/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-amp!-edition-6gb.html

                                    https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/562099/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-g1-gaming-6g-(rev-10).html

[ItsKevin]

7 minutes ago, G27Racer_188 said:

@ItsKevin

PSU

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/349127/cooler-master-gm-g650m/specificaties/

 

GPU

cheap: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/567235/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gt-oc.html

small if space is an issue: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/567243/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-6gb.html

good for more money: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/567281/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-amp!-edition-6gb.html

                                    https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/562099/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-g1-gaming-6g-(rev-10).html

isn't 600 watt a bit overkill?

although 600 watt for that price is actually a good deal

[G27Racer_188]

1 minute ago, ItsKevin said:

isn't 600 watt a bit overkill?

Yes it is, but it was only 6-10 euros more expensive than the 500W one, so I was like "You might as well get it". But if those 10 euros make a difference than

 

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/256222/seasonic-s12ii-bronze-520w.html

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/302797/antec-hcg-520m.html

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/349126/cooler-master-gm-g550m.html

 

Also bigger psu will allow him to upgrade in the future without having to worry about it.

[ItsKevin]

5 minutes ago, G27Racer_188 said:

Yes it is, but it was only 6-10 euros more expensive than the 500W one, so I was like "You might as well get it". But if those 10 euros make a difference than

 

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/256222/seasonic-s12ii-bronze-520w.html

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/302797/antec-hcg-520m.html

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/349126/cooler-master-gm-g550m.html

 

Also bigger psu will allow him to upgrade in the future without having to worry about it.

yes, upgrading is also something I thought about when I looked at a 1060 and with a hight wattage psu he wouldn't need to buy those again when fully upgrading his pc.

 

I do think that a 1060 with a psu would be the best solution at this time