Can apus still game?

[Chaicho]

Im looking to build my younger brother a build and wondering if an apu can run popular new games at least at low settings with decent fps (playable fps) on titles like overwatch, ark, new title like For Honor.

[Droidbot]

nope.. get a cheap i5 used, and maybe a 480 4G or a 470 4G or a 1060 3G. Will kick the ass of an APU for probably on par in terms of price, and you'll have less bottlenecking with a proper GPU. 

[Lord Sephington]

to be 100% honest I have had experience with APU's (and still currently using one) and can say if you get a quad core version with a good clock speed and use a separate graphics card then you shouldnt see a problem in some games being played at acceptable levels. but relying solely on the APU for both CPU and GPU purposes will lead to underwhelming performance.

 

I use an A6 6400K and for a dual core it is reliable and plays a few games like BF4 (720p med/low at around 30fps) and even at those setting expect to have alot of stuttering and really long load times. on average it takes at least 2-3 mins to load a map on BF4, and even more in some cases on arma 3.

 

so again if you are planning to use a separate GPU then i would advise against newer titles using an APU.

 

Also on another note, if you do decide to go for an APU then your upgrade path is pretty much non-existent as FM2+ socket type is really poor for options for motherboards and the boards I have seen mostly for APU's arent designed for anything gaming unless its super low end 

Edited January 31, 2017 by jaybob85
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[Rolfejc]

You might be able to play some games on 720p with medium settings or something like that with an AMD APU. Something like ARK might be a struggle even if you modify the graphics. I would rather pick up a G4560 and a RX 460/GTX 1050. 

[Droidbot]

3 minutes ago, jaybob85 said:

to be 100% honest I have had experience with APU's (and still currently using one) and can say if you get a quad core version with a good clock speed and use a separate graphics card then you shouldnt see a problem in some games being played at acceptable levels. but relying solely on the APU for both CPU and GPU purposes will lead to underwhelming performance.

 

I use an A6 6400K and for a dual core it is reliable and plays a few games like BF4 (720p med/low at around 30fps) and even at those setting expect to have alot of stuttering and really long load times. on average it takes at least 2-3 mins to load a map on BF4, and even more in some cases on arma 3.

 

so again if you are planning to use a separate GPU then i would advise against newer titles using an APU.

even the a10 is a mediocre quad-core with a bad IPC compared to 2nd/3rd gen i series processors. 

 

4 minutes ago, Rolfejc said:

You might be able to play some games on 720p with medium settings or something like that with an AMD APU. Something like ARK might be a struggle even if you modify the graphics. I would rather pick up a G4560 and a RX 460/GTX 1050. 

not worth buying new at this price range imo

[Chaicho]

5 minutes ago, jaybob85 said:

to be 100% honest I have had experience with APU's (and still currently using one) and can say if you get a quad core version with a good clock speed and use a separate graphics card then you shouldnt see a problem in some games being played at acceptable levels. but relying solely on the APU for both CPU and GPU purposes will lead to underwhelming performance.

 

I use an A6 6400K and for a dual core it is reliable and plays a few games like BF4 (720p med/low at around 30fps) and even at those setting expect to have alot of stuttering and really long load times. on average it takes at least 2-3 mins to load a map on BF4, and even more in some cases on arma 3.

 

so again if you are planning to use a separate GPU then i would advise against newer titles using an APU.

Damn, I kinda hoped I could relay on igpu without problems.

[Streetguru]

16 minutes ago, Chaicho said:

Im looking to build my younger brother a build and wondering if an apu can run popular new games at least at low settings with decent fps (playable fps) on titles like overwatch, ark, new title like For Honor.

Wait for AM4 APUs launching soon if your budget is under $300

Here's last gen APU benhcmarks, it's not too bad considering it's price at the time, DDR4 and other improvements are going to help them a ton

 

A8 7650K | CS:GO/Dota 2/SC2 benchmarks Tested With 1866Mhz RAM
http://www.technologyx.com/featured/amd-a8-7650k-apu-review-the-little-apu-that-could/4/

A8 7650K | Various AAA titles Tested with 2133Mhz RAM
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9217/the-amd-a8-7650k-apu-review-also-new-testing-methodology/7

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Chaicho said:

Damn, I kinda hoped I could relay on igpu without problems.

Here's an APU system, I highly recommend waiting for AM4 to build an APU system

The issue is that you have no upgrade path, and for like 50-100 dollars more, you get like 400% more performance in a Pentium G4560 + RX 460 build

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3G7yf
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3G7yf/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($69.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.89 @ B&H)
Total: $290.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-31 00:35 EST-0500

 

[Lord Sephington]

On 1/31/2017 at 5:27 AM, Chaicho said:

Damn, I kinda hoped I could relay on igpu without problems.

APU's have always been a weaker chip because it being CPU and GPU on one chip. like some of the other guys have said on here i think the best option is to buy something from intel, or if thats out of your price range then either buy a decent AM3+ chip with separate gpu, or wait until ryzen/vega is released and see what options you will have.

 

As i said in my previous post about FM2+ socket, it has no upgrade path as you are restricted to either a low end APU, or something like an x4 860K which is still pretty weak for being a quad core cpu.

 

sorry if this is crappy news but APU's arent designed to be a gaming orientated chip as they are too low power as the igpu is always lower performance than a separate gpu.

 

The chip i have has radeon HD8470D 768mb and it is weaker than a 5000 series discreet gpu from amd so it really isnt gaming capable unless you can live with playing most games on low setting and barely hitting 30 fps at 720p. I wish i had more cash at the time of building my system as i would have went with a more powerful setup but alas i could only afford what i have and it is pretty mediocre as a gaming system, its great for watching 1080p vids and general web browsing/media player but nothing more sadly.

[Chaicho]

21 hours ago, jaybob85 said:

APU's have always been a weaker chip because it being CPU and GPU on one chip. like some of the other guys have said on here i think the best option is to buy something from intel, or if thats out of your price range then either buy a decent AM3+ chip with separate gpu, or wait until ryzen/vega is released and see what options you will have.

 

As i said in my previous post about FM2+ socket, it has no upgrade path as you are restricted to either a low end APU, or something like an x4 860K which is still pretty weak for being a quad core cpu.

 

sorry if this is crappy news but APU's arent designed to be a gaming orientated chip as they are too low power as the igpu is always lower performance than a separate gpu.

 

The chip i have has radeon HD8470D 768mb and it is weaker than a 5000 series discreet gpu from amd so it really isnt gaming capable unless you can live with playing most games on low setting and barely hitting 30 fps at 720p. I wish i had more cash at the time of building my system as i would have went with a more powerful setup but alas i could only afford what i have and it is pretty mediocre as a gaming system, its great for watching 1080p vids and general web browsing/media player but nothing more sadly.

Damn, that sounds depressing m8 sorry tohere that.

[smokefest]

On 31/01/2017 at 0:27 AM, Chaicho said:

Damn, I kinda hoped I could relay on igpu without problems.

any igpu is "shit" for gaming..

igpu is good for normal usage you know of the computer, for gaming, you need a dedicated card

Unles u just want to "run" the game