Witch compnent is botlencking?

[Cadence IT]

 Hardware:

Hewlett-Packard HP Z200 Workstation

 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz 3.10GHz, 1024KB Level 2 cache

 Default System BIOS HPQOEM - 20130909

 8,196 MB RAM

 KINGSTON SV300S37A120G 111.79GB SCSI

 ST1000DM003-1ER162 931.51GB SCSI

Asus 1060 6BG version

 

So that PC had 950 and when added 2nd screen and started having lags and frame drops. So added new video card 1060 with 6GB, that helped but still isnt best performance. so new we thinking that RAM is bottlenecking, but what i see from msi afterburner that its only use around 5-6 GB of RAM. Could it be that windows is not allowing to anymore?

 

BTW the sofware we are using is Bentley Context capture,

 

If anyone have any ideas what could be the problem say it outloud

HardwareMonitoring.hml

[Ashiella]

Your CPU is old AF, and the single core is shit. It's about on par with the AMD fx series. I'd recommend getting something newer. A new pentium g4560 would be better.

[Cadence IT]

 

1 minute ago, Ashiella said:

Your CPU is old AF, and the single core is shit. It's about on par with the AMD fx series. I'd recommend getting something newer. A new pentium g4560 would be better.

Yea i now its not new  but looking at haarware monitoring its being used only 20-40% so i dont see point of upgrading it, and the sofware isnt using only single core. as seen graph its utilize each core evenly and no spikes for more then 60-70%

[Ashiella]

1 minute ago, Cadence IT said:

 

Yea i now its not new  but looking at haarware monitoring its being used only 20-40% so i dont see point of upgrading it, and the sofware isnt using only single core. as seen graph its utilize each core evenly and no spikes for more then 60-70%

I've played Minecraft and it said its using every core evenly on my 12 core 24 thread Xeon, and I know it's lying. And it's still considerably faster.

[Ashiella]

4 minutes ago, Cadence IT said:

 

Yea i now its not new  but looking at haarware monitoring its being used only 20-40% so i dont see point of upgrading it, and the sofware isnt using only single core. as seen graph its utilize each core evenly and no spikes for more then 60-70%

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-Intel-Core-i7-870/3892vsm961 the pentium which is 70$ is better. I've used an AMD fx 4130 oc'd to 4.5 ghz, games only used 30% of the CPU, if the cooling is bad then I'd consider checking temps. What is your gpu usage in game, it's possible that it's a severe bottleneck, as the 1060 is better than my 970 and my 4130 is Oc'd to be on par, even better in single core, and my gpu usage is at around 70% on games like rainbow six siege, which is kinda gpu dependent, it fluctuates lower sometimes as well to ~50

[Cadence IT]

1 minute ago, Ashiella said:

I've played Minecraft and it said its using every core evenly on my 12 core 24 thread Xeon, and I know it's lying. And it's still considerably faster.

I just need to be sure about it. Can i somehow monitor it, becouse its client and if i say that is CPU problem and he buys new and it isnt solving problem then i will in little trouble

 

for same client already building kinda supercomputer  witf MSI x99a-sli-plus, intel i7-6850k, gtx 080, 64GB of ram, something like that

[Ashiella]

1 minute ago, Cadence IT said:

I just need to be sure about it. Can i somehow monitor it, becouse its client and if i say that is CPU problem and he buys new and it isnt solving problem then i will in little trouble

 

for same client already building kinda supercomputer  witf MSI x99a-sli-plus, intel i7-6850k, gtx 080, 64GB of ram, something like that

You can use Msi afterburner and check. Also, while building the new system, I'd wait for zen or Kabylake x or skylake x, but I wouldn't get the 6850k unless you are gonna triple or 4 way sli and you need the PCIE lanes keeping in mind pascal doesn't offer over 2 way. Also, not a super computer. Jayztwocents skunkworks is closer to a super computer than that is.

[Cadence IT]

4 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-Intel-Core-i7-870/3892vsm961 the pentium which is 70$ is better. I've used an AMD fx 4130 oc'd to 4.5 ghz, games only used 30% of the CPU, if the cooling is bad then I'd consider checking temps. What is your gpu usage in game, it's possible that it's a severe bottleneck, as the 1060 is better than my 970 and my 4130 is Oc'd to be on par, even better in single core, and my gpu usage is at around 70% on games like rainbow six siege, which is kinda gpu dependent, it fluctuates lower sometimes as well to ~50

That computer isnt for games its for Bentley descartes there is lot of point computing.

[Ashiella]

1 minute ago, Cadence IT said:

That computer isnt for games its for Bentley descartes there is lot of point computing.

Same thing applies.

[Cadence IT]

2 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

Same thing applies.

Using that soft on 1 panel was okey when added 2nd then started problems.

 

4 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

You can use Msi afterburner and check. Also, while building the new system, I'd wait for zen or Kabylake x or skylake x, but I wouldn't get the 6850k unless you are gonna triple or 4 way sli and you need the PCIE lanes keeping in mind pascal doesn't offer over 2 way. Also, not a super computer. Jayztwocents skunkworks is closer to a super computer than that is.

It is supercomputer for them. kabylake is way to expensive for there performance. 6850k is kinda good for price/performance becouse have 15MB of cache and good clockspeeds, other option is to go for XEON, there probably will be only 1 card and all 8 dimm slots used where will be 128 GB of ram, for starters will add 4x16 kit and then same kit latter.

[Andrew Sh]

25 minutes ago, Cadence IT said:

 Hardware:

Hewlett-Packard HP Z200 Workstation

 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz 3.10GHz, 1024KB Level 2 cache

 Default System BIOS HPQOEM - 20130909

 8,196 MB RAM

 KINGSTON SV300S37A120G 111.79GB SCSI

 ST1000DM003-1ER162 931.51GB SCSI

Asus 1060 6BG version

 

So that PC had 950 and when added 2nd screen and started having lags and frame drops. So added new video card 1060 with 6GB, that helped but still isnt best performance. so new we thinking that RAM is bottlenecking, but what i see from msi afterburner that its only use around 5-6 GB of RAM. Could it be that windows is not allowing to anymore?

 

BTW the sofware we are using is Bentley Context capture,

 

If anyone have any ideas what could be the problem say it outloud

HardwareMonitoring.hml

It will vary from application to application/Game but there's a few things there.

Old HDDs can cause slow load times.
Older CPU model can cause slow running if there's codecs/APIs that work much much better on for example i7 3770k or higher etc.

But saying that, there are several videos out there, like scrapyard wars where they used seriously old rubbish paired up with fairly powerful gpus that did quite well.

Some games will do great, some will suck.

I'd first go for HDD upgrades in your position or ram if that ram is slower than 1334mhz ddr3 or DDR2

The 1060 is perfectly find here.

[Ashiella]

2 minutes ago, Cadence IT said:

Using that soft on 1 panel was okey when added 2nd then started problems.

 

It is supercomputer for them. kabylake is way to expensive for there performance. 6850k is kinda good for price/performance becouse have 15MB of cache and good clockspeeds, other option is to go for XEON, there probably will be only 1 card and all 8 dimm slots used where will be 128 GB of ram, for starters will add 4x16 kit and then same kit latter.

Then it would most likely be CPU, handling two simultanious workloads like that would be very taxing.

 

then get the 6800k, better price to performance. It's the same processor with less PCIE lanes and maybe slightly less cache? And Kabylake x and skylake x are the new extreme edition CPUs like the 6800k, they would be called the 7800k for example. On the X199 or X299 platform. It wouldn't be anymore expensive than what your looking to buy currently.

[Ashiella]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Sh said:

It will vary from application to application/Game but there's a few things there.

Old HDDs can cause slow load times.
Older CPU model can cause slow running if there's codecs/APIs that work much much better on for example i7 3770k or higher etc.

But saying that, there are several videos out there, like scrapyard wars where they used seriously old rubbish paired up with fairly powerful gpus that did quite well.

Some games will do great, some will suck.

I'd first go for HDD upgrades in your position or ram if that ram is slower than 1334mhz ddr3 or DDR2

The 1060 is perfectly find here.

You should have read the entire thread before posting, he isn't play games, he is doing workstation type work. And I didn't go on the storage option issue, but it's likely not that that cause the low usage. The ram is definitely not the issue, I've tested ddr4 at 3000mhz to 887 MHz and there was hardly any difference.