Abysmal performance for an okay system?

[ItalianBread]

Hey guys!

So, I needed some quick advice/help. Since I got my GTX 1050 Mini from Zotac, I thought it would perform fine with most games, especially since I only have a 1280x1024 60Hz panel. But, I've been playing some games recently that should run very solidly with a CPU that logically is worse than mine, as I've seen friends and gameplay have the best performance. But, for me, running games like The Crew on high (not even ultra) only get me 30-40 fps. Could it be that my A8-6500 CPU is really that bad? Or should the performance be better? I have the Witcher 3 downloaded, but I haven't played it. Should I use that as a benchmark? Maybe it's just The Crew that has bad performance optimization? 

What's also been bothering me is that whenever I run a game, it says that my PC has run out of memory after playing for a while. Checking out the task manager shows many processes that shouldn't be taking up a lot of memory, CPU, or disk. hogging the whole system! It's horrifying! Usually, processes like Service Host: Local Network and Antimalware Service Executable didn't take up 50% of my RAM, CPU, or whatever. Help!? 

[LabRat]

list specs........... don't forget the ram and the power supply ( make and model.

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, LabRat said:

list specs........... don't forget the ram and the power supply ( make and model.

-CPU: AMD A8-6500 with a Stock Cooler
-MOBO: MSI MS-7778 (AKA 2AE0) Version 1.0
    -NETWORK DRIVER INFO: 
        -WIFI ADAPTER:
         Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 802.11b|g|n WiFi Adapter
         Driver version: 3.0.2.201
        -ETHERNET ADAPTER:
         Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.30)
         Driver Version: 2.1.0.16

-GPU: ZOTAC GTX 1050 
-PSU: EVGA 430W PSU
-RAM: 8GB Generic Samsung RAM
-CASE: Fractal Design Core 1100
-CASE FANS: 1 fan built in the case from Fractal Design, replacing a cheap case fan, and GPU fans.
 

Don't mind the network stuff, copy and paste haha

[CatXice]

first thing use task manager kill all tasks that are background killing your pc with in reason

second see if your cpu is at 100% or close to usage in task manager if so theres your problem

third check your gpu usage if thats at 100% theres your issue

fourthly jump in game turn off AC and AA and vsync

finally check for thermal throttling as you dont have a lot of fans

 

all i can think of for now

 

also this is not a strong gaming pc so you will be running on mid settings due to having that cpu and the cards not the greatest tbh 

would advise intel i3 the duo core overclock one i cant remember the name or i5-7400 with a 1060 6gb or better

[Princess Luna]

AMD A8-6500? Very weak CPU if you ask me... you need to use something to follow up the numbers, like MSi Afterburner, see the GPU % of usage and the CPU % of usage, if the CPU is steady 100% during game play, while the GPU isn't on 99% then it is bottlenecking your video card, that simple.

Pay attention to memory usage as well, if you ever notice you're using your entire system memory on a game, the chances are you might end up needing to use extra space from Virtual Memory and that decreases your performance tremendously.

[LabRat]

that's a good place to start.(catX)

also, is this a uplay title? maybe you're having problems with Uplay? uninstall/reinstall.......... game patches?

try under clocking the gpu and the vram a little. zotac/OC cards don't mix. had a lot of different problems with their cards. so much I don't buy them  any more. ( not that I'm trying to scare you./

the ram. 1 stick? in proper slot? ( read your booklet ). 2 dimms in proper slots?

after your rebuild did you try a cmos reset at all?

maybe there's a conflict with your router if the games you are having troubles with require an internet connection?

[LabRat]

another question..... when you installed the card you hooked the monitor cable to it, right? it's not plugged into the motherboard any more?

and did you set the BIOS for video so it points to the card? ( PCI-PEG-auto,slot ) etc.

 

that apu should be able to play that game without a card installed. I can play older games without too much troubles with similar demands.

[ItalianBread]

2 minutes ago, LabRat said:

another question..... when you installed the card you hooked the monitor cable to it, right? it's not plugged into the motherboard any more?

and did you set the BIOS for video so it points to the card? ( PCI-PEG-auto,slot ) etc.

 

that apu should be able to play that game without a card installed. I can play older games without too much troubles with similar demands.

Well, since my monitor uses VGA, I'm using a displayport to VGA connector which is in my GPU, and that's connected to the monitor. And what do you mean setting the BIOS to video?

[ItalianBread]

14 minutes ago, LabRat said:

that's a good place to start.(catX)

also, is this a uplay title? maybe you're having problems with Uplay? uninstall/reinstall.......... game patches?

try under clocking the gpu and the vram a little. zotac/OC cards don't mix. had a lot of different problems with their cards. so much I don't buy them  any more. ( not that I'm trying to scare you./

the ram. 1 stick? in proper slot? ( read your booklet ). 2 dimms in proper slots?

after your rebuild did you try a cmos reset at all?

maybe there's a conflict with your router if the games you are having troubles with require an internet connection?

One stick of RAM. And, since it's a prebuilt I never really moved the RAM anywhere. It's been in the same spot. And I haven't reset my CMOS. I'm using the Android Built in internet tethering app, so it's more reliable than PdaNet+. 

[ItalianBread]

30 minutes ago, CatXice said:

first thing use task manager kill all tasks that are background killing your pc with in reason

second see if your cpu is at 100% or close to usage in task manager if so theres your problem

third check your gpu usage if thats at 100% theres your issue

fourthly jump in game turn off AC and AA and vsync

finally check for thermal throttling as you dont have a lot of fans

 

all i can think of for now

 

also this is not a strong gaming pc so you will be running on mid settings due to having that cpu and the cards not the greatest tbh 

would advise intel i3 the duo core overclock one i cant remember the name or i5-7400 with a 1060 6gb or better

Well, the main issue is that it's the system apps hogging my memory, so I can't really kill tasks. For example, look at the screenshots attached below. I might upgrade when/if the CPU prices go down this semester, but for now I'm kind of stuck.

 

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, ItalianBread said:

Well, the main issue is that it's the system apps hogging my memory, so I can't really kill tasks. For example, look at the screenshots attached below. I might upgrade when/if the CPU prices go down this semester, but for now I'm kind of stuck.

 

Hehehe, the image didn't crop. I'll send you the second image right now. It didn't crop properly so my windows key showed up :3

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, ItalianBread said:

Hehehe, the image didn't crop. I'll send you the second image right now. It didn't crop properly so my windows key showed up :3

 

[CatXice]

sort the lists on max memory and disks and kill the tasks that are using it all and go into startup and disable all the shit u dont need in there

 

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

sort the lists on max memory and disks and kill the tasks that are using it all and go into startup and disable all the shit u dont need in there

 

Already did that, but some system apps still manage to hog the RAM, CPU, and Disk.

[CatXice]

i have 22% usage atm and am on a week old build with 16gb of ram in coz chrome so u know but u need to sort out that disk ahah

[CatXice]

sort the listing on disk usage see whats battering that

[CatXice]

also sort by name and show me that as well

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

also sort by name and show me that as well

Right now, my system looks like it's fine. I'll send screenshots when it starts choking.

[CatXice]

just sat atm i have 0-10% usage on disk it could be that on start up its just killin it which is normal

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

just sat atm i have 0-10% usage on disk it could be that on start up its just killin it which is normal

Maybe. Still doesn't explain why I run out of memory on a game that only needs 4 GB of RAM while I have 8.

[CatXice]

what yr system uses to run + the games ram usage can easily top 8gb on new games in bf1 am gettin max 11gb of ram usage granted am runnin stupid graphics but u know

[ItalianBread]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

what yr system uses to run + the games ram usage can easily top 8gb on new games

I suppose. Should I try the Witcher and get back to you and show you my performance? Maybe it's just a Uplay thing.

 

[CatXice]

2 minutes ago, ItalianBread said:

I suppose. Should I try the Witcher and get back to you and show you my performance? Maybe it's just a Uplay thing.

 

u mean fuck play:

example i run bf1 at 1440p (VSR) ultra 80fps 

syndicate 1080 ultra 45fps...

bf1 in 4k (VSR) ultra i get 40fps!!!!

[LabRat]

1-2-5-6-7-8-10-12................ don't need ant of that shit.

pre-built by somebody close by? and what is the warranty?

this machine shouldn't run the way you say it is.

[vaiwalker]

did it only happen after upgrading to win 10? I had the same issue, games that used to run at max FPS dropped down to single digit FPS. had to reinstall win 8 and everything worked as it should.