PC upgrade

[Ninjakiller692]

1. Budget & Location

I live in the UK and have about £600 to spend.

2. Aim

Would like to run R6seige and BF1 at 60fps at 1080p. 

3. Monitors

I have two monitors. Both are 1080p

4. Peripherals

No need of any peripherals, already have them. I also won't need storage and possibly will not need to buy a different power supply (unsure).

5. Why are you upgrading?

I want to get a better gaming experience. 

 

My current system is:

AMD FX-6300 six core processor

Nvidia geforce gtx 660

Asus M5A78L-M/USB 3 - AM3+ SATA2

8gb Kingston DDR3 1333mhz

450w corsair VS450

Standard cpu cooler

G6 Mars Blue

 

I mostly need advise on what motherboard to get and what CPU to get in relation to the graphics card.

Any recommendations would be appreciated. 

Thanks.

[MrAlbertrocks]

Wait for Zen and Kaby Lake to be released, upgrading your mobo, cpu and gpu right now is not a good idea.

[Ninjakiller692]

10 minutes ago, MrAlbertrocks said:

Wait for Zen and Kaby Lake to be released, upgrading your mobo, cpu and gpu right now is not a good idea.

Do you have any idea of when these will be released? I was not planning to get the parts till around mid February anyway. 

[MrAlbertrocks]

1 minute ago, Ninjakiller692 said:

Do you have any idea of when these will be released? I was not planning to get the parts till around mid February anyway. 

Zen and Kaby Lake will probably drop around January-February. And the VEGA presentation is in 2 days http://ve.ga/ (New GPU architecture from AMD).

 

 

[IHirs]

if you can afford it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£189.59 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£29.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£129.95 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£210.99 @ Alza) 
Total: £644.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 23:02 GMT+0000

 

[Thony]

I believe 1050ti and i5-6400 can give you what you are looking for.

[Thony]

2 minutes ago, IHirs said:

if you can afford it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£189.59 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£29.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£129.95 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£210.99 @ Alza) 
Total: £644.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 23:02 GMT+0000

 

£129 for mobo is in this case a bad choice. H170 or even B150 will do its job nicely and cost less, not to mention Z mboo is for OCing and 6500 is not OCable.

[IHirs]

2 minutes ago, Thony said:

£129 for mobo is in this case a bad choice. H170 or even B150 will do its job nicely and cost less, not to mention Z mboo is for OCing and 6500 is not OCable.

i want to give him expandabilty so he doesnt have to buy another mobo if he wants to oc or get a m.2 ssd get a wifi card, etc

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, IHirs said:

if you can afford it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£189.59 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£29.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£129.95 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  (£210.99 @ Alza) 
Total: £644.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 23:02 GMT+0000

 

Why Z mobo with locked chip? Doesn't seem like OP plans to upgrade to an unlocked chip. Even the cooler isn't really needed. 16GB of RAM at so low budget? Save the money and get a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 480 8GB.

[Thony]

3 minutes ago, IHirs said:

i want to give him expandabilty so he doesnt have to buy another mobo if he wants to oc or get a m.2 ssd get a wifi card, etc

He is on low budget atm, what makes u think he will be able to afford premium hardware like K-chip or M.2 ?

By the time he gets a job or money for £1K build kabylake will be out of date. M.2 is only good for professionals who really need that kind of speed, gaming PCs dont.

At most he will upgrade his GPU in an year or two.

 

[IHirs]

Just now, Thony said:

He is on low budget atm, what makes u think he will be able to afford premium hardware like K-chip od M.2 ?

By the time he gets a job or money for £1K build kabylake will be out of date.

i wouldnt say 600 pounds is a low budget for upgrading a pc, and if he doesnt want expandibilty he can just say so and ill change it

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, FTL said:

Why Z mobo with locked chip? Doesn't seem like OP plans to upgrade to an unlocked chip. Even the cooler isn't really needed. 16GB of RAM at so low budget? Save the money and get a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 480 8GB.

also they could go with the rx 480 4gb version for the same price as the gtx 1060 3gb version

[IHirs]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

also they could go with the rx 480 4gb version for the same price as the gtx 1060 3gb version

1060>480

[Brooksie359]

Just now, IHirs said:

1060>480

lol not the 3gb version

 

[IHirs]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

lol not the 3gb version

 

yes it is

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

also they could go with the rx 480 4gb version for the same price as the gtx 1060 3gb version

Yeah agreed, The RX 480 4GB is a superior card (compared to the 1060 3GB)

[Guest]

1 minute ago, IHirs said:

yes it is

Nope it isn't after relive.

[Thony]

9 minutes ago, IHirs said:

i wouldnt say 600 pounds is a low budget for upgrading a pc, and if he doesnt want expandibilty he can just say so and ill change it

for entire build like u provided it is. 
U went over his budget and its not worth it to spend extra £40 on something that wont increase the performance. I was just making sure the money is well spent. 
With yearly releases I dont like word "upgradability". Hardware gets obsolete and current mobos ccant support next gen CPUs (generally speaking, kabylake might run on specific motherboards but I havent heard anything official yet). Until OP says he will upgrade CPU in an year I cant agree with the mobo choice , thats all  

I see your point.

[Thony]

7 minutes ago, FTL said:

Yeah agreed, The RX 480 4GB is a superior card (compared to the 1060 3GB)

According to DX12 benchmarks 480 beats 1060 6GB or goes equal with it. 

[Moress]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£189.59 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£47.89 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  (£187.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.82 @ Alza) 
Total: £578.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 23:25 GMT+0000

This should be good.
Doesn't include wifi, but id assume you would have a solution coming from an existing build.
Could trade less ram for a better gpu (Well, "better" since the 8gb 480 isn't any faster than the 4gb). But thats up to you.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/c73Dnn  Less ram more Vram

[RyanMacRocks]

22 minutes ago, Moress said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£189.59 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£47.89 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  (£187.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.82 @ Alza) 
Total: £578.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 23:25 GMT+0000

This should be good.
Doesn't include wifi, but id assume you would have a solution coming from an existing build.
Could trade less ram for a better gpu (Well, "better" since the 8gb 480 isn't any faster than the 4gb). But thats up to you.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/c73Dnn  Less ram more Vram

You could even cut the RAM down to 8 GB if its only for gaming and save a few dollars, plus the upgrade path is always there if 8 GB starts to become limiting in a few years.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, IHirs said:

1060>480

Lol no 4gb 480>3gb 1060; 8gb 480>6 GB 1060

[Ninjakiller692]

22 hours ago, RyanMacRocks said:

You could even cut the RAM down to 8 GB if its only for gaming and save a few dollars, plus the upgrade path is always there if 8 GB starts to become limiting in a few years.

Is RAM not that important for gaming? This PC is mostly going to be used or gaming.

[Ninjakiller692]

23 hours ago, Moress said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£189.59 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£47.89 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  (£187.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.82 @ Alza) 
Total: £578.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 23:25 GMT+0000

This should be good.
Doesn't include wifi, but id assume you would have a solution coming from an existing build.
Could trade less ram for a better gpu (Well, "better" since the 8gb 480 isn't any faster than the 4gb). But thats up to you.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/c73Dnn  Less ram more Vram

I'd be using wired plus I have a WIFI card already. What would be the main advantage of more Vram? Would it be worth getting the 8gb 480?

[Ninjakiller692]

23 hours ago, Thony said:

for entire build like u provided it is. 
U went over his budget and its not worth it to spend extra £40 on something that wont increase the performance. I was just making sure the money is well spent. 
With yearly releases I dont like word "upgradability". Hardware gets obsolete and current mobos ccant support next gen CPUs (generally speaking, kabylake might run on specific motherboards but I havent heard anything official yet). Until OP says he will upgrade CPU in an year I cant agree with the mobo choice , thats all  

I see your point.

Once I buy this PC I do not plan to upgrade for a while, until I can afford something a lot better. I'm not looking for something 'amazing' just a upgrade from what I have atm and give okay performance for a few years. The mobo is the part I'm most unsure about. How much do motherboards affect performance? What motherboard do you think I should get?