Opinion needed, for online gaming build.

[pistol22cal]

I am looking to build a rig that will play Rift, War Thunder, World of Tanks, and Eve Online on max settings.

 

Also most steam games like Prison Architect, Reassembly, Factorio, and others of that nature.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kPRwV

 

Also note that I chose the motherboard I did so that in the future I could move to an i5 6600k of i7 and OC if needed.

 

I believe I have choosen pretty good parts. I am not worried about cheap as much as I am future expansion and longevity as I tend to keep computers for 5-8 years before replacing them. 

[Guest]

Don't get that PSU. EVGA G2, G3, GQ are all fine or lower budget like Corsair CXM or Seasonic S12II

I would get cheaper HDD and try for a 480/1060. Much better or even a 470 would be better

8GB RAM. RAM is the easiest thing you can upgrade and 8GB is fine for today

 

[xdeathshot20]

2 minutes ago, pistol22cal said:

I am looking to build a rig that will play Rift, War Thunder, World of Tanks, and Eve Online on max settings.

 

Also most steam games like Prison Architect, Reassembly, Factorio, and others of that nature.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kPRwV

 

Also note that I chose the motherboard I did so that in the future I could move to an i5 6600k of i7 and OC if needed.

 

I believe I have choosen pretty good parts. I am not worried about cheap as much as I am future expansion and longevity as I tend to keep computers for 5-8 years before replacing them. 

i would personally go for an i5 since you wont have to upgrade so fast and maybe a higher wattage power supply but of course if it is in your budget

[BiscuitMassacre]

2 minutes ago, pistol22cal said:

I am looking to build a rig that will play Rift, War Thunder, World of Tanks, and Eve Online on max settings.

 

Also most steam games like Prison Architect, Reassembly, Factorio, and others of that nature.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kPRwV

 

Also note that I chose the motherboard I did so that in the future I could move to an i5 6600k of i7 and OC if needed.

 

I believe I have choosen pretty good parts. I am not worried about cheap as much as I am future expansion and longevity as I tend to keep computers for 5-8 years before replacing them. 

That is great for upgrading to an i5, the GPU is a little weak, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

 

A budget $50-60 SSD would go a long way.

 

Not to confident in that PSU tho.

[pistol22cal]

I made some changes 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KyB26X

[Energycore]

There's a lot to switch there. No SSD? Do you really want to pay $150 when there are Z170 motherboards out there for $90?

Ah, much better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $671.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-22 22:02 EST-0500

[pistol22cal]

Just now, Energycore said:

There's a lot to switch there. No SSD? Do you really want to pay $150 when there are Z170 motherboards out there for $90?

Ah, much better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $671.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-22 22:02 EST-0500

I already have an SSD 

[Energycore]

Just now, pistol22cal said:

I made some changes 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KyB26X

Still a bad PSU the one in mine is much better. A 1050 Ti is really bad performance when you can get a 50% faster card for $200

[Guest]

5 hours ago, pistol22cal said:

I made some changes 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KyB26X

Not NEX, look at  @Energycore's build

[Energycore]

Just now, pistol22cal said:

I already have an SSD 

Ah then put that money back into the build.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H)
Total: $663.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-22 22:04 EST-0500

[pistol22cal]

Why so much hate for the 1050ti ?

[Guest]

5 hours ago, pistol22cal said:

Why so much hate for the 1050ti ?

Because a 470 or 480 would perform way better. A 480 is on par with 1060 in most case

[pistol22cal]

6 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Because a 470 or 480 would perform way better. A 480 is on par with 1060 in most case

When I look at the reviews for the rx 480 and the 1050 ti the rx 480 is better I agree but it's so much more than what I foresee needing. I have ran all my current games on low setting with a GT 430 and it plays them all just fine. I can't see speeding the money, perhaps I am missing something or need persuading. 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, pistol22cal said:

When I look at the reviews for the rx 480 and the 1050 ti the rx 480 is better I agree but it's so much more than what I foresee needing. I have ran all my current games on low setting with a GT 430 and it plays them all just fine. I can't see speeding the money, perhaps I am missing something or need persuading. 

A 470?

[pistol22cal]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

A 470?

The increased cost over the 1050 ti does equal more performance and seems worth the cost, I will be going with the 470 thank you.

 

Here is what I have come up with : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bzLzXH

[The Sloth]

6 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

A 470?

470 is waste since you can get a 480 for like 20 bucks more 

[pistol22cal]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

470 is waste since you can get a 480 for like 20 bucks more 

Ahhhh yes I see that thank you! 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WZm6NN

[Guest]

5 hours ago, pistol22cal said:

The increased cost over the 1050 ti does equal more performance and seems worth the cost, I will be going with the 470 thank you.

 

Here is what I have come up with : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bzLzXH

Any reason for 16GB of RAM. As I told you, get 8GB.  A 480 would be well worth it

Why buy PSU from Superbizz? BHPHOTOVIDEO is cheaper 

The HDD costs too much. Why not stick with what @Energycoredid above?

[pistol22cal]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Any reason for 16GB of RAM. As I told you, get 8GB.  A 480 would be well worth it

Why buy PSU from Superbizz? BHPHOTOVIDEO is cheaper 

The HDD costs too much. Why not stick with what @Energycoredid above?

I do quite a bit of large file archiving and need the RAM for compression. My current rig has 8GB and its not enough.

 

The vendor is not who I will be buying from this is just a parts list.

 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, pistol22cal said:

I do quite a bit of large file archiving and need the RAM for compression. My current rig has 8GB and its not enough.

 

The vendor is not who I will be buying from this is just a parts list.

 

Ah, I see. Well everything seems nice then

[Energycore]

Just now, pistol22cal said:

I do quite a bit of large file archiving and need the RAM for compression. My current rig has 8GB and its not enough.

 

The vendor is not who I will be buying from this is just a parts list.

 

 

Don't get a hybrid drive get a cheap 2TB or a normal 1TB

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fpCwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-dt01aca200

 

The Hybrid bit is a waste if you don't use it for your OS (you already have SSD)

 

[pistol22cal]

9 minutes ago, Energycore said:

 

Don't get a hybrid drive get a cheap 2TB or a normal 1TB

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fpCwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-dt01aca200

 

The Hybrid bit is a waste if you don't use it for your OS (you already have SSD)

 

Thank you for the advice, I believe the increased performance is worth it as the hybrid drive is where my games and programs will live. My current setup is a 120GB SSD with the OS on it and a standard 1 TB HDD but the HDD is aging and I don't trust it at all. Looking at reviews and youtubers the hybrid seems worth the cost. However, I have no real world experience with a hybrid drive. Advice is welcome, perhaps a RAID 5 of 1 TB HDD's would be a good path for mass storage. This is still well under my budget.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pistol22cal/saved/#view=mJYNGX

[Energycore]

14 minutes ago, pistol22cal said:

Thank you for the advice, I believe the increased performance is worth it as the hybrid drive is where my games and programs will live. My current setup is a 120GB SSD with the OS on it and a standard 1 TB HDD but the HDD is aging and I don't trust it at all. Looking at reviews and youtubers the hybrid seems worth the cost. However, I have no real world experience with a hybrid drive. Advice is welcome, perhaps a RAID 5 of 1 TB HDD's would be a good path for mass storage. This is still well under my budget.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pistol22cal/saved/#view=mJYNGX

For me it's either just HDD or just SSD for games. For the price of the 3 drives needed for a RAID 5, you can get a 500GB or 750GB SSD. Proper management of storage (move games that you're gonna play into the SSD, then move them out once you're done) is a boon that allows you to never have to feel the slowness of a HDD.

[pistol22cal]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

For me it's either just HDD or just SSD for games. For the price of the 3 drives needed for a RAID 5, you can get a 500GB or 750GB SSD. Proper management of storage (move games that you're gonna play into the SSD, then move them out once you're done) is a boon that allows you to never have to feel the slowness of a HDD.

Since I mainly play online would those games even benefit from the hybrid or ssd?

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, pistol22cal said:

Since I mainly play online would those games even benefit from the hybrid or ssd?

The hybrid drive usually can only put 16-32GB on the fast bit, and manages what should be there for you. It's a neat thing, but it won't make your games load faster unless they're the one game that's on the SSD bit. And you don't get to tell it what to put on the fast bit.

 

For instance the Hybrid drive you got there only has 8GB of fast storage