Started my build. Step 1!

[Melorski]

Ordered a Corsair Crystal Air 460X RGB today. Original plan was for Intel I7 6700K CPU, however since 7th gen so close to release I am going to wait till Jan to purchase the rest of the gear. I am planning on a build that will be strong for Cities Skylines on an ultra wide monitor ( probably a LG 34UC98 @ 3440 x 1440 ) with m.2  boot drive and a 1070, 1080, or possibly 1080Ti if it looks like I might need it vs price point.  I am also plannng on driving a second monitor for simultaneous web browsing, etc. 

 

The vid vid card needs are what I am most unsure of. Also trying to decide if there would be any benefit of 64 gb over 32 gb on the motherboard.  I probably won't have much more to post as I am waiting on Intel for now. Any suggestions are welcome!

 

Paul

[Paytend01]

Is your name marty? Because i want a 1080ti

[Freezanator]

@Melorski, since you're gonna get something around the horsepower of the i7-6700K, I'd suggest you go with the GTX 1080 (or GTX 1080 Ti if it comes out). Also, there are more Z170 motherboards supporting up to 64 GB of RAM compared to those supporting 32 GB. 32 GB is usually found on the H110 and B150 chipsets, so you might as well get one with 64 GB of maximum RAM for future upgrades. Do you have a full parts list? Where are you purchasing your hardware from?  

[Melorski]

No MB choice as I am waiting to see how the z270 chipset boards look. Am anxious to build but patient enough to wait till January. 

[NTDaws]

Honestly, Kaby Lake and Skylake are not going to have a big difference, you should just go with skylake. Then buy a 1080ti (if they release it). But I would go for your standard i7 6700k, gtx 1070, and 32gb of ram

[Spudbilly]

Hi,

 

What else will you be using this PC for. 

 

Just gaming and web browsing?

 

I feel that 32gb of ram is a bit much if those are your only activities. Unless your an enthusiast and are gonna overclocked and water cool...blah blah blah. Also...thinking outside the box...for your suggested needs...an overclocked i7 5820k would do very well. 

[NTDaws]

wait whats your budget on hardware?

[NTDaws]

When you look like a meme

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4r7Vm8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4r7Vm8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing RGB 360 40.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Jet) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($188.97 @ Jet) 
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($152.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($423.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1703.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-07 10:46 EST-0500

[Spudbilly]

Hi,

 

What else will you be using this PC for. 

 

Just gaming and web browsing?

 

I feel that 32gb of ram is a bit much if those are your only activities. Unless your an enthusiast and are gonna overclocked and water cool...blah blah blah. Also...thinking outside the box...for your suggested needs...an overclocked i7 5820k would do very well. 

[Melorski]

9 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said:

wait whats your budget on hardware?

Around 2000 USD.  More or less for everything in the case. No speakers, keyboard, monitor, etc. Other big purchase not counted is monitor. 

[NTDaws]

15 minutes ago, Melorski said:

Around 2000 USD.  More or less for everything in the case. No speakers, keyboard, monitor, etc. Other big purchase not counted is monitor. 

look at my setup above

[dizmo]

What are you using the system for?

There are very, very few people that actually need 64GB of RAM.

 

1 hour ago, Freezanator said:

@Melorski, since you're gonna get something around the horsepower of the i7-6700K, I'd suggest you go with the GTX 1080 (or GTX 1080 Ti if it comes out). Also, there are more Z170 motherboards supporting up to 64 GB of RAM compared to those supporting 32 GB. 32 GB is usually found on the H110 and B150 chipsets, so you might as well get one with 64 GB of maximum RAM for future upgrades. Do you have a full parts list? Where are you purchasing your hardware from?  

Bad advice without knowing his usage. 64GB of RAM is overkill in most situations.

53 minutes ago, Melorski said:

No MB choice as I am waiting to see how the z270 chipset boards look. Am anxious to build but patient enough to wait till January. 

If you want people to know you've replied you need to quote them like this. Welcome to the forum!

[Freezanator]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Bad advice without knowing his usage. 64GB of RAM is overkill in most situations.

I didn't say he must have 64 GB of RAM. It isn't bad advice, I was just stating the truth. There are more Z170s which support up to 64 GB than those which support up to 32 GB.  

[Melorski]

4 hours ago, Dawson Wehage said:

look at my setup above

Like the setup. If 7th gen Intel and 270 chipset weren't around the corner, this could be my build. 

PC target use is Gaming and Photoshop. My existing solution is adequate for everything I do except gaming. The photoshop work I do is fairly light and I am not processing many images, but more detail work on a small number of images. My current rig is a Microsoft Surface Pro 3 with I7 Mobile. It usually sits in a docking station where use a secondary screen that is 2560 by 1440 dell that is good for photo editing. I also use full size keyboard and mouse with this setup. 

 

I have no hard drive space because I run three servers. Two local and one remote. I am at about 50% capacity ( I think because I seldom check ) and have maybe 10 TB online space 5TB free... Will check later...

 

EDIT 29 TB Online /EDIT

 

So motivation for new machine is re-sparking of interest in gaming generated by you tube vids of these awesomely detailed cities in Cities Skylines.  As a kid I wanted but never made a cool model railroad. IMHO programs like Cities Skylines are the model railroad of this century. I used to play FPS games back in the day. Doom, Quake and SOF. I was in the top 20 worldwide on SOF when I binge played using "Game Spy" if I recall. For a few days I was #1. I played that as Charles U Farley. Chuck U Farley - Get it? 

 

So FPS is an interest but my main desire is to make a cool model railroad, er, uh, I mean cool city in Cities Skylines. I almost certainly will play some FPS online, but don't want to go down that rabbit hole at this stage of my life. The I7M in my tablet just doesn't cut it on CS, although it gives a darn good try. The other tasks I perform are fine on my tablet so I don't need to move them over. but probably will pull Photoshop over, or not. I don't do the Photoshop work I did years ago when I was an active photographer. In the end, I anticipate both computers to be on my desk with a total of three monitors or maybe two if I can find an elegant way of sharing one monitor between the tablet and the desktop build. 

 

I was so frustrated with the wait for the 7th gen I7 that I almost went 6 cores now. The latest benchmarks seem to show the new I7 doesn't out perform the 6700K if you match the clock speeds. Or if it does, it does so very marginally. However the announcement that Netflix will stream 4K to Kaby and not earlier gear is a strong reminder that you move forward or get left behind and I hate to build a heavy box with yesterdays toys. Especially since this will probably be "IT" for a good handful of years.

 

I have a weird background with computing. Programmed in machine code on Z80 as a kid, and active programmer until OOP became the thing which is a long time now. Almost always built my own boxes. Earliest build was a 286 or maybe 386. Yes, I am probably one of your dad's friends... Or maybe your mom's... ( Being anonymous sure makes you cheeky, doesn't it - I am not at all like that in person, oh no, I am maybe morphing back to being Chuck... )

 

 

Best to all of you and thanks 10^6 for reading and replying. Happy Holidays to you regardless of your brand. Good time to be among loved ones and friends Peace on earth to all.

 

Paul

 

Edited December 7, 2016 by Melorski
Actually checked the numbers. Forgot I had that much.

[Melorski]

1 hour ago, Freezanator said:

I didn't say he must have 64 GB of RAM. It isn't bad advice, I was just stating the truth. There are more Z170s which support up to 64 GB than those which support up to 32 GB.  

Yes is almost certainly overkill. On the other hand after redoing my monitor setup, desk, etc. The actual cost of using two extra sticks is pretty minor in the big picture. My concern is my history with motherboards becoming more finicky with memory when you max out the slots. Is that still an issue? If you visit ASUS and look at the approved memory configs, very few specify 64GB. Most are 16GB with some 32. At least on the resource I viewed a few days ago. I didn't make a big study of the subject. So I do want the 64 unless it makes the system less stable. I can certainly live with 32 and probably will not touch the high addresses even if they are there.

 

Paul