cheap pc help

[3jameo3]

Budget is around 400$ US.

 

Aims are gaming like modded minecraft and modded diablo 2 with the possibility of youtube if I decide to get into that. There might be a possibility of more games if something peaks my interest but as of now nothing has. The case has to have a dvd drive bay.

 

Monitor going to use my 1080p 3x" vizio flatscreen max res is 1920x1080

 

OS will only be needed dependent on ram used in your suggestions. I own Windows 7 Home 64bit. I have a keyboard and mouse and and sata dvd drive already.

 

Why am I upgrading is more of a question of why haven't I before now lol. Windows xp pro, 1gb of ram, 2.93ghz intel celeron d processor, old msi motherboard that is IDE only.

 

I thought about just doing a build without any input then I was like well lets see what the folks here can come up with.

[BrinkGG]

2 minutes ago, 3jameo3 said:

Budget is around 400$ US.

 

Aims are gaming like modded minecraft and modded diablo 2 with the possibility of youtube if I decide to get into that. There might be a possibility of more games if something peaks my interest but as of now nothing has.

 

Monitor going to use my 1080p 3x" vizio flatscreen max res is 1920x1080

 

OS will only be needed dependent on ram used in your suggestions. I own Windows 7 Home 64bit.

 

Why am I upgrading is more of a question of why haven't I before now lol. Windows xp pro, 1gb of ram, 2.93ghz intel celeron d processor, old msi motherboard that is IDE only.

 

I thought about just doing a build without any input then I was like well lets see what the folks here can come up with.

So at 400$ US, Used is probably your best bet. What Craigslist section are you in? 

Just so you know, that price can get you at least an i3, 8GB of RAM, GTX 760(ish) and 500GB of storage easily. 

[3jameo3]

9 minutes ago, Brink2Three said:

So at 400$ US, Used is probably your best bet. What Craigslist section are you in? 

Just so you know, that price can get you at least an i3, 8GB of RAM, GTX 760(ish) and 500GB of storage easily. 

 

I have checked craigslist but anything close is well over my budget and stuff far away they cannot say that everything works completely, so I plan on just building the thing myself which saves gas and time. My craiglist section is WV.

[jado]

Personally I think you should put in the time picking parts for your PC, everyone here will have different opinions and ideas. This is what I would put in a 400$ budget build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($46.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $375.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:33 EST-0500

 It comes to 423$ (not including mail in rebates) 

[3jameo3]

This is something I planned to build for my step-mom as she doesn't need much but doesn't have a lot of space. She already has a monitor and I have win 7 home so that should work for her but for me I need something beefier I think anyway.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($76.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI A68HI AC Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($42.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Western Digital RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Azza Z Mini ITX Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply  ($12.88 @ OutletPC) 
Optical Drive: LG CU20N Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($13.99 @ Best Buy) 
Other: StarTech 6-Inch Slimline SATA to SATA Female/Male Adapter with Power (SLSATAADAP6)  ($15.76 @ Amazon) 
Total: $408.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:40 EST-0500

[Blackhole890]

1 minute ago, 3jameo3 said:

This is something I planned to build for my step-mom as she doesn't need much but doesn't have a lot of space. She already has a monitor and I have win 7 home so that should work for her but for me I need something a beefier I think anyway.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($76.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI A68HI AC Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($42.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Western Digital RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Azza Z Mini ITX Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply  ($12.88 @ OutletPC) 
Optical Drive: LG CU20N Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($13.99 @ Best Buy) 
Other: StarTech 6-Inch Slimline SATA to SATA Female/Male Adapter with Power (SLSATAADAP6)  ($15.76 @ Amazon) 
Total: $408.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:40 EST-0500

i dont recomend to purchase an apu at these times, better go for what @jado gave you

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($104.99 @ Newegg) get an fx 8300 if you're gonna do video editing/rendering.
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($39.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($33.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($9.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $398.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:46 EST-0500

[GigabitXe]

6 minutes ago, 3jameo3 said:

This is something I planned to build for my step-mom as she doesn't need much but doesn't have a lot of space. She already has a monitor and I have win 7 home so that should work for her but for me I need something beefier I think anyway.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-7600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($76.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI A68HI AC Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($42.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Western Digital RE4 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Azza Z Mini ITX Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply  ($12.88 @ OutletPC) 
Optical Drive: LG CU20N Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($13.99 @ Best Buy) 
Other: StarTech 6-Inch Slimline SATA to SATA Female/Male Adapter with Power (SLSATAADAP6)  ($15.76 @ Amazon) 
Total: $408.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:40 EST-0500

That looks good, but I would not get that power supply if you plan to to intensive tasks. Just because of the price it is likely to be made from cheap parts. I know that this is not true for all things, but I feel that the PSU is the last thing you should cheap out on.

[3jameo3]

13 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

i dont recomend to purchase an apu at these times, better go for what @jado gave you

What is wrong with an apu? She doesn't game or anything most she is going to use onboard graphics for is watching movies. About jado's build its nice but I dont think it has enough power for heavily modded games as my now fried windows 7 computer had an intel dual core and could barely handle the games listed when modified. Diablo 2 in general is more cpu based than gpu based. I heard minecraft in general is pretty much only cpu based as well so not sure if a gpu will even help that.

 

11 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($104.99 @ Newegg) get an fx 8300 if you're gonna do video editing/rendering.
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($39.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($33.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($9.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $398.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 18:46 EST-0500

 

I have read a lot of reviews concerning ASRock boards in general and 75% of them are bad is this board the exception? I will tinker around with your suggested build and see if I can maybe make it using the 8300 or not so I have the rendering/editing possibility while still being in my price range.

 

7 minutes ago, Space2867 said:

That looks good, but I would not get that power supply if you plan to to intensive tasks. Just because of the price it is likely to be made from cheap parts. I know that this is not true for all things, but I feel that the PSU is the last thing you should cheap out on.

 

I have a couple PSUs that have been extremely reliable for many years and if I find some converters for the power plugs to make them sata I will probably use one of them instead.

[GigabitXe]

1 minute ago, 3jameo3 said:

I have a couple PSUs that have been extremely reliable for many years and if I find some converters for the power plugs to make them sata I will probably use one of them instead.

That is a good idea as long as you have the right adapters. Working with something you know is always a good idea.

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, 3jameo3 said:

I have read a lot of reviews concerning ASRock boards in general and 75% of them are bad is this board the exception?

they're fine, i don't see the problem with an asrock motherboard.

[3jameo3]

35 minutes ago, Space2867 said:

That is a good idea as long as you have the right adapters. Working with something you know is always a good idea.

 

And it saves money so I may do that instead of getting a new PSU.

 

29 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

they're fine, i don't see the problem with an asrock motherboard.

 

I will keep that in mind as I am tinkering with the list provided to make it work for a 8300 granted a couple other things will change though lol.

 

Edit:: Concerning gpus why does pretty much everyone go with nvidia instead of amd i know they have faster clock speeds but other than that is there a reason when it comes to gaming and rendering/editing?

Edited December 4, 2016 by 3jameo3
added a question about gpus

[Herman Mcpootis]

32 minutes ago, 3jameo3 said:

 

And it saves money so I may do that instead of getting a new PSU.

 

 

I will keep that in mind as I am tinkering with the list provided to make it work for a 8300 granted a couple other things will change though lol.

 

Edit:: Concerning gpus why does pretty much everyone go with nvidia instead of amd i know they have faster clock speeds but other than that is there a reason when it comes to gaming and rendering/editing?

the 1050/ti is much better than the rx 460 so i recommended it instead.

[3jameo3]

13 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

the 1050/ti is much better than the rx 460 so i recommended it instead.

Minus the obvious 0.2-0.3ghz increase on the clock speed, I don't understand what is better. I have tried reading comparisons but that added to the confusion is there something that actually explains it for a normal person? Considering an almost 50$ price difference I cannot say for sure which is better just based on that either.

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, 3jameo3 said:

Minus the obvious 0.2-0.3ghz increase on the clock speed, I don't understand what is better. I have tried reading comparisons but that added to the confusion is there something that actually explains it for a normal person?

the 1050ti provides much better framerates than the 460.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1050_Ti_Strix_OC/8.html

[3jameo3]

If I use my old case which I don't really like and my old sata drives this is the best I can do with an amd 8300 in the build without fighting with potential bios problems that this cpu likes to cause. This also gives room to OC if I ever actually need to which I doubt.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($104.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 R5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($99.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($42.99 @ Jet) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $411.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 20:47 EST-0500

 

Then add in a few 3$ adapters so I can use my older 500w OCZ stealth stream PSU which could possibly work with this board hopefully otherwise I will have to buy a new one.