RTS, Trying Too Hard?

[Roddy1891]

So, I've just been looking at sudden strike 4 on steam, and... well, to be completely honest, I'm completely unimpressed by it. 

I remember sudden strike 1, and 2, and being completely engrossed in them, and now looking at the footage, quite the opposite. 

is it just me, or have games in this genre become more focused on pretty explosions and nice graphics over core gameplay?

Now, i haven't played it (SS4), so maybe I'm just looking at the media footage and being unimpressed by that, but it seems the same for most RTS games nowadays.

I had hours of fun on C&Q, Total Annihilation, SS1, 2, 3(? a coldwar version?) and now the modern equivalent seem unimpressive, even if they do look "better".

do any of you agree with me here, or am i just raving mad? 
 

and, if so, can you recommend any good games on that style?

[ARikozuM]

Age of Empires 1/2/3. Still playing them to this day.

[Roddy1891]

5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Age of Empires 1/2/3. Still playing them to this day.

I bought age of Empires 2 HD but struggled to get into it as I was mostly used to Empire Earth. I must give it another go. I have to admit that 3 looks great, so I'll try that after 2 lol.

 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Roddy1891 said:

I bought age of Empires 2 HD but struggled to get into it as I was mostly used to Empire Earth. I must give it another go. I have to admit that 3 looks great, so I'll try that after 2 lol.

 

2 is my favorite as the multiplayer balance is the best I've seen in any RTS without being a damn gimmick like Starcraft.

 

I could also recommend HuniePop.

[ARikozuM]

Have you looked at Ashes of the Singularity?

[Roddy1891]

 

16 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

2 is my favorite as the multiplayer balance is the best I've seen in any RTS without being a damn gimmick like Starcraft.

 

I could also recommend HuniePop.

I'll definitely try it again, multiplayer RTS I seem to struggle with, unless local, i build a wheel and they're already nuking me - kinda thing... lol. I never said I was good! I just miss the old style games... I'm only 25! haha!

 

What is HuniePop? lol

[ARikozuM]

4 minutes ago, Roddy1891 said:

 

I'll definitely try it again, multiplayer RTS I seem to struggle with, unless local, i build a wheel and they're already nuking me - kinda thing... lol. I never said I was good! I just miss the old style games... I'm only 25! haha!

 

What is HuniePop? lol

HuniePop isn't an RTS. It's a puzzle game where you're vying for the affections (to put it mildly) of girls. I usually put it in for people looking for a good shooter or RTS as a joke.

[Roddy1891]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

Have you looked at Ashes of the Singularity?

I've seen the trailers, but it's always shouted "im a DX12 game! - for trial purposes!" more than anything to me, BUT, it does look more like total annihilation than their newer games so, I think I'll add it to my steam list...

after watching the gameplay videos on it, you know what? i think I've been sold another RTS game haha. think its worth getting the escaltion version? hopefully they'll be on sale over xmas...?

[Hal_9000]

34 minutes ago, Roddy1891 said:

So, I've just been looking at sudden strike 4 on steam, and... well, to be completely honest, I'm completely unimpressed by it. 

I remember sudden strike 1, and 2, and being completely engrossed in them, and now looking at the footage, quite the opposite. 

is it just me, or have games in this genre become more focused on pretty explosions and nice graphics over core gameplay?

Now, i haven't played it (SS4), so maybe I'm just looking at the media footage and being unimpressed by that, but it seems the same for most RTS games nowadays.

I had hours of fun on C&Q, Total Annihilation, SS1, 2, 3(? a coldwar version?) and now the modern equivalent seem unimpressive, even if they do look "better".

do any of you agree with me here, or am i just raving mad? 
 

and, if so, can you recommend any good games on that style?

Ashes of the Singularity is a good RTS. 8-bit armies and Hordes are fun little RTSs. COH is a fun series. (I know, I'm just kinda throwing them out there).

 

I know what you mean when you say that games developers seem to care more about looks than gameplay. Its sad. It really is.

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, Roddy1891 said:

I've seen the trailers, but it's always shouted "im a DX12 game! - for trial purposes!" more than anything to me, BUT, it does look more like total annihilation than their newer games so, I think I'll add it to my steam list...

after watching the gameplay videos on it, you know what? i think I've been sold another RTS game haha. think its worth getting the escaltion version? hopefully they'll be on sale over xmas...?

I have the base version and I like it. It doesn't have the same "feel" as AoE 2 but it was very fun for my time with it.

 

I know you want RTS, but have you considered any shooters with command elements like Mass Effect?

[Roddy1891]

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

HuniePop isn't an RTS. It's a puzzle game where you're vying for the affections (to put it mildly) of girls. I usually put it in for people looking for a good shooter or RTS as a joke.

you know what? up till the candy crush looking bit, I thought, why not? but nah. candy crush crushes my soul lol.

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, Roddy1891 said:

you know what? up till the candy crush looking bit, I thought, why not? but nah. candy crush crushes my soul lol.

I enjoyed my time with HuniePop. Around the 10th puzzle (on Alpha), you start thinking hard before making moves since you only have about 3 tries for errors.

[Roddy1891]

4 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I know you want RTS, but have you considered any shooters with command elements like Mass Effect?

I've played mass effect on xbox years ago, and loved it. havent seemed to get into 3 on pc for some reason. 

CoH looks great, but lacks the overall grandeur I think i'm looking for, I've already bought some but the small scale squad battles aren't quite the war i have in mind haha.

the games I used to love to play were warcraft 2, C&Q, TA,

I'll try Ashes out and give a replay of AE2 though. any other suggestions? (steam sales closing in haha)

[Roddy1891]

13 minutes ago, Hal_9000 said:

Ashes of the Singularity is a good RTS. 8-bit armies and Hordes are fun little RTSs. COH is a fun series. (I know, I'm just kinda throwing them out there).

 

I know what you mean when you say that games developers seem to care more about looks than gameplay. Its sad. It really is.

half my previous reply was in response to yourself lol.

 

Glad its not just me. I don't care how good/bad the graphics are, the ability to place troops in buildings and ambush the enemy on the street was awesome lol, obviously much more important variations of gameplay have made a difference in enjoyment o me, but surely developers realise a difference between realism and graphical fidelity? (then again... do I? lol)

[ARikozuM]

It's not what we've been talking about with large armies, but... FTL.

 

Commandos

Company of Heroes

Grey Goo

Total War Franchise