The change from AMD to Intel

[Numpty_raisins]

So im looking to change processors from AMD to Intel in a pre bulilt pc and I dont know how to switch what to look out for what works and what doesn't. Im looking for some guidance or help into what I need like including cases/towers and motherboards or any OS issues or anything else thanks! (Im new to this so dont judge me)

[Electronics Wizardy]

What pc do you have?

 

[Numpty_raisins]

Its a CyberPower pc I cant find the exact model anymore sorry I know that probably doesn't help.

[Daveeede]

You'll need a new cpu and motherboard, possibly new ram.

Case might be a tight fit since it's a prebuilt. PSU is probably crap.

Hard drive is reusable, but you will need a new Windows license since you are changing motherboard.

 

Might as well buy a new PC.

[Numpty_raisins]

I put a new power supply and graphics card its a corsair cx850m and EVGA gtx970

[Daveeede]

2 minutes ago, Numpty_raisins said:

I put a new power supply and graphics card its a corsair cx850m and EVGA gtx970

What's the rest of the PC's specs? A model number would be good too.

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, Numpty_raisins said:

I put a new power supply and graphics card its a corsair cx850m and EVGA gtx970

What cpu do you have?

 

id probably get a i5 6500, 8 or 16 gb or ddr4, and a b150 board

[SLAYR]

2 minutes ago, Numpty_raisins said:

I put a new power supply and graphics card its a corsair cx850m and EVGA gtx970

Budget? 

 

Current specs?

 

If you have a fx 4xxx/6xxx or any fm2 cpu an i5 or an i7 is a good upgrade. I would suggest skylake since newer ddr4 ram isn't too expensive.

 

If you have an fx 8xxx/9xxx. Those are comperable to an i5 if you want a significant upgrade I would only look at i7s.

[SnowyMus]

6 minutes ago, Numpty_raisins said:

I put a new power supply and graphics card its a corsair cx850m and EVGA gtx970

That CX850M can be reused, as well as that graphics card.

 

The case, as long as it's ATX-compliant and can physically fit the new motherboard, can be reused (chances are it is). Make sure you don't get a motherboard that's too big for your case, like an ATX board in a microATX case, or an EATX in an ATX case that does not support EATX boards.

You can reuse any SATA-based devices (hard drives, SSDs, optical drives).

 

OEM Windows keys aren't transferable, and if it's a prebuilt PC, they are almost certainly using an OEM key. If you're going to switch motherboards more than just this one time, buy a retail key directly from Microsoft, as they're transferable (but expensive). However, you can also buy another OEM key for much cheaper. I'd first build your PC and see if the existing installation works first before doing anything.

 

RAM is reusable, but only if your new motherboard supports the RAM. If you're getting a Skylake motherboard, most of them have DDR4 slots instead of DDR3, which you'll need to buy new RAM. You can buy Skylake boards with DDR3 slots if you really wanted to, though.

 

The main differences are going to be in your motherboard and CPU. Those have to be changed.

[MoonlightSylv]

6 minutes ago, Daveeede said:

You'll need a new cpu and motherboard, possibly new ram.

Case might be a tight fit since it's a prebuilt. PSU is probably crap.

Hard drive is reusable, but you will need a new Windows license since you are changing motherboard.

From experience Windows 10 doesn't care if you switch boards, I've used a Windows 7 license from an HP prebuilt to activate Windows 10 on my MacBook Pro. I did that with my desktop too.

[Daveeede]

1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

From experience Windows 10 doesn't care if you switch boards, I've used a Windows 7 license from an HP prebuilt to activate Windows 10 on my MacBook Pro. I did that with my desktop too.

Good to know. Wasn't like this in the past. Do you know if this is an official thing with WIndows 10?

[MoonlightSylv]

Just now, Daveeede said:

Good to know. Wasn't like this in the past. Do you know if this is an official thing with WIndows 10?

Not sure, I do know that MS officially allows you to use Windows 7 and 8 keys on 10 though.

[SLAYR]

3 minutes ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

From experience Windows 10 doesn't care if you switch boards, I've used a Windows 7 license from an HP prebuilt to activate Windows 10 on my MacBook Pro. I did that with my desktop too.

It will deactivate if you switch boards AFTER you upgrade to windows 10, beforehand it doesn't matter.

[Numpty_raisins]

graphics card: EVGA gtx 970 Power supply: corasir cx850m cpu: AMD FX(tm) 8100 i cant find the model on newegg were i bought it its about 2 years old now 

[Daveeede]

2 minutes ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

Not sure, I do know that MS officially allows you to use Windows 7 and 8 keys on 10 though.

So basically someone can buy a dirt cheap windows 8 oem key, and use it to install windows 10?

[MoonlightSylv]

Just now, Daveeede said:

So basically someone can buy a dirt cheap windows 8 oem key, and use it to install windows 10?

I'd think so.

[MoonlightSylv]

4 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

It will deactivate if you switch boards AFTER you upgrade to windows 10, beforehand it doesn't matter.

If you contact Microsoft support with the "contact support" app they'll give you a new product key or reactivate your current one, I've done it before.

[Numpty_raisins]

Is there any amd cpus that are somewhat equivalent to a intel i5 or i7

[ApolloX75]

2 minutes ago, Numpty_raisins said:

Is there any amd cpus that are somewhat equivalent to a intel i5 or i7

No. The highest you can go with AMD at the moment is a 9590 and they're not worth the money. You are much better off buying an i5 6500 or similar with a simple motherboard and some DDR4 RAM as was suggested earlier. You could also go with a slightly older Haswell setup with an i5 4590 or similiar and an H97 motherboard, both are very easy to find new or used still and would allow you to save some money by reusing your current RAM.

 

Or you can hold off and wait for AMD to release Zen soon. But any which way you go you are looking at a major overhaul as Zen will be on a completely new platform as well.

[Daveeede]

1 minute ago, Numpty_raisins said:

Is there any amd cpus that are somewhat equivalent to a intel i5 or i7

The 9590 can come close if you are managing to push all the cores, but those CPUs run extremely hot and will probably require a better motherboard than what you currently have. It's not recommended.

[Numpty_raisins]

3 minutes ago, ApolloX75 said:

No. The highest you can go with AMD at the moment is a 9590 and they're not worth the money. You are much better off buying an i5 6500 or similar with a simple motherboard and some DDR4 RAM as was suggested earlier. You could also go with a slightly older Haswell setup with an i5 4590 or similiar and an H97 motherboard, both are very easy to find new or used still and would allow you to save some money by reusing your current RAM.

 

Or you can hold off and wait for AMD to release Zen soon. But any which way you go you are looking at a major overhaul as Zen will be on a completely new platform as well.

What about the AMD FX 8350 wraith any good?

[ApolloX75]

Just now, Numpty_raisins said:

What about the AMD FX 8350 wraith any good?

Not much of an upgrade from an 8100 honestly. You might see a slight boost but nothing groundbreaking.

[Numpty_raisins]

1 minute ago, ApolloX75 said:

Not much of an upgrade from an 8100 honestly. You might see a slight boost but nothing groundbreaking.

I mean i think that puts me in range of staying near the middle of minimum and recommended of most games released now until i can put away some extra money to get it all together.

[Coaxialgamer]

IMO , you should wait for zen . Even if it isn't as good as planned , there still will be price drops . and if it IS good , then we're all in for a treat.

[ApolloX75]

4 minutes ago, Numpty_raisins said:

I mean i think that puts me in range of staying near the middle of minimum and recommended of most games released now until i can put away some extra money to get it all together.

The problem is between an 8100 and an 8350 the only difference is clock speed and a tiny bit of an architecture change. You won't see any big gains at all so save your money and wait.