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What makes the liquid in AIO coolers special that you don't have to change it every 6 months to a year like a custom loop?

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all the addatives + basically no chanse of stuff getting into it

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

all the addatives + basically no chanse of stuff getting into it

I mean if you wash out our custom loop with distilled water and only use distilled water with an additive wouldn't it be the same thing? No colors either.

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

I mean if you wash out our custom loop with distilled water and only use distilled water with an additive wouldn't it be the same thing? No colors either.

they have litteraly every addative you can think of in there, like ALL OF THEM lol. distilled water and antibacterial would get you pretty close tho but there is a lot more in there probably

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40 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

they have litteraly every addative you can think of in there, like ALL OF THEM lol. distilled water and antibacterial would get you pretty close tho but there is a lot more in there probably

That doesn't really help to say what's inside

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you don't HAVE to change a custom loops liquid every year, but you do if you want your parts to last a long time.  I've heard of people running their custom loop for 4 years before they had issues.  I think that is the main difference between aio and custom loop.  

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15 minutes ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

you don't HAVE to change a custom loops liquid every year, but you do if you want your parts to last a long time.  I've heard of people running their custom loop for 4 years before they had issues.  I think that is the main difference between aio and custom loop.  

What do you mean issues? Like growth in the loop or physical wear like the tubing? EK has some tubing that is meant to break down over long periods of time. It's all black but looks similar to AIO stuff

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bbs.io-tech.fi one of the old goonies who has run watercooled systems for over 10 years already said this:

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Kymmenen vuoden vesijäähdytyskokemuksella:

- Ikinä en ole huuhdellut looppia mitenkään ennen käyttöönottoa - heti lopulliset liemet sisään ja menoksi
- Jos porinaa ja lutinaa kuuluu niin kannattaa pyöritellä radia ja jos mahdollista vaihdella pumpun nopeutta - kuplat poistuu
- nesteelläkään ei ole niin väliä: olen pyörittänyt loopissa alkoholia, glygolia, kraanavettä, akkuvettä ja nykyään EK:n sotkua akkuveden kanssa

Ps. alkoholi tosin haurasti letkut, mutta ihan loppuun asti ne kestivät. :)

 

Translation:

I have 10 years worth of experience with watercooling

- I have never washed my loop before installing it - Immediately the final mix of liquids in and just go

- If you hear some plashes or blurring then you should twist radiator around and if only possible, change pump flow speed - gets rid of the bubbles

- Even the liquid doesn't matter that much: I have used in my systems pure alcohol, glycol, tap water, distilled water and nowadays just EK's mix with distilled water.

Ps. alcohol made soft tubes to be crusty but they didn't leak until I changed them. :)

 

Well back to your original question: AIO coolers use same stuff that goes to most cars, ethylene glycol with additives to protect aluminium and copper areas from corrosion. The additives are not listed in any safety statement so there probably are just a few drops of that.

 

I recently opened 3 years old AIO cooler that was used actively (judging about on average 6 to 10 hours a day for 3 years) and no sign of corrosion anywhere.

http://imgur.com/a/h6uNt

Light make otherside look like it has corrosion but when I changed the light source angle it looks just as shiny as other side.

 

The real trick why AIO coolers last so long time is the tubing, they are more AIR TIGHT than regular soft tubings used on water coolers. The airtight quality is probably same as tygon laboratory tubes but don't have same chemical protection. 

 

More airtight it is less stuff gets inside or out or in this case vapor. Liquid's vapor always exists within the liquid cooling systems and the maintenance free depends on can you make things vaportight. No vapor gets outside, no stuff has outside has to go inside to replace it. Your reservoir fill hole cap might not be enough vapor tight and stuff eventually gets out and new stuff (air) inside.

 

The algae starts growing when liquid inside is not 'poisonous' enough for it. I think there was a chart where practically all algae growing stops when you increase glycol amount beyond that.

 

Now if you want as hassle free as possible water cooling system you need to make it AIR TIGHT (meaning you have pressure gauge on fill port or something) and see if it can hold air pressure inside the loop. After you have made sure no fittings, tubing lose pressure then you can fill loop with liquid and finally seal fill port.

 

 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

What do you mean issues? Like growth in the loop or physical wear like the tubing? EK has some tubing that is meant to break down over long periods of time. It's all black but looks similar to AIO stuff

anything that causes the loop to stop functioning properly.  I'm talking mostly about people that built a custom loop and then basically never looked at it after a few months and just let it run until their pc started overheating years later.  Usually a blockage or dead pump from plasticizer or other buildup.  I'm sure that most aio's are pretty nasty by the time they've been in use for a few years

 

I've never heard of EK's zmt being made to break down, but afaik all tubing will degrade in one way or another over time. 

 

I'm definitely NOT saying that custom loops shouldn't be drained/cleaned regularly by the way.  Because they definitely should (just putting that out there) 

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4 minutes ago, sl06bhytmar said:

bbs.io-tech.fi one of the old goonies who has run watercooled systems for over 10 years already said this:

Translation:

I have 10 years worth of experience with watercooling

- I have never washed my loop before installing it - Immediately the final mix of liquids in and just go

- If you hear some plashes or blurring then you should twist radiator around and if only possible, change pump flow speed - gets rid of the bubbles

- Even the liquid doesn't matter that much: I have used in my systems pure alcohol, glycol, tap water, distilled water and nowadays just EK's mix with distilled water.

Ps. alcohol made soft tubes to be crusty but they didn't leak until I changed them. :)

 

Well back to your original question: AIO coolers use same stuff that goes to most cars, ethylene glycol with additives to protect aluminium and copper areas from corrosion. The additives are not listed in any safety statement so there probably are just a few drops of that.

 

I recently opened 3 years old AIO cooler that was used actively (judging about on average 6 to 10 hours a day for 3 years) and no sign of corrosion anywhere.

http://imgur.com/a/h6uNt

Light make otherside look like it has corrosion but when I changed the light source angle it looks just as shiny as other side.

 

The real trick why AIO coolers last so long time is the tubing, they are more AIR TIGHT than regular soft tubings used on water coolers. The airtight quality is probably same as tygon laboratory tubes but don't have same chemical protection. 

 

More airtight it is less stuff gets inside or out or in this case vapor. Liquid's vapor always exists within the liquid cooling systems and the maintenance free depends on can you make things vaportight. No vapor gets outside, no stuff has outside has to go inside to replace it. Your reservoir fill hole cap might not be enough vapor tight and stuff eventually gets out and new stuff (air) inside.

 

The algae starts growing when liquid inside is not 'poisonous' enough for it. I think there was a chart where practically all algae growing stops when you increase glycol amount beyond that.

 

Now if you want as hassle free as possible water cooling system you need to make it AIR TIGHT (meaning you have pressure gauge on fill port or something) and see if it can hold air pressure inside the loop. After you have made sure no fittings, tubing lose pressure then you can fill loop with liquid and finally seal fill port.

 

 

So if you used say antifreeze would that work?

4 minutes ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

anything that causes the loop to stop functioning properly.  I'm talking mostly about people that built a custom loop and then basically never looked at it after a few months and just let it run until their pc started overheating years later.  Usually a blockage or dead pump from plasticizer or other buildup.  I'm sure that most aio's are pretty nasty by the time they've been in use for a few years

 

I've never heard of EK's zmt being made to break down, but afaik all tubing will degrade in one way or another over time. 

 

I'm definitely NOT saying that custom loops shouldn't be drained/cleaned regularly by the way.  Because they definitely should (just putting that out there) 

Assuming you used liquid that doesn't have color is 6 months the average time to refresh the liquid? Also do you need to clean the blocks every 6 months or can you go longer then the liquid?

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

So if you used say antifreeze would that work?

Probably it will work, there are some antifreeze stuff that COATS everything and you might not want to use that if you care about heat exchange rate :)

 

The best bet would be to use http://www.coollaboratory.com/product/coollaboratory-liquid-coolant-pro-blue/

They at least promise 24 months without any problems, others 12 or 6 months :)

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38 minutes ago, sl06bhytmar said:

Probably it will work, there are some antifreeze stuff that COATS everything and you might not want to use that if you care about heat exchange rate :)

 

The best bet would be to use http://www.coollaboratory.com/product/coollaboratory-liquid-coolant-pro-blue/

They at least promise 24 months without any problems, others 12 or 6 months :)

What about EK or XSPC coolant? It says it has antibacterial stuff and anti corrosion stuff in it.

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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

That doesn't really help to say what's inside

It uses pure anti-freeze. Ethylene glycol and/or propylene glycol. Lower performance and more expensive than water, but better corrosion properties. Plus they don't care about tubing fogging up or anything since they don't use clear tubing lol.

 

Besides with modern coolant you probably could use it for years at a time, it's just not as great as shorter times.

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27 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

What about EK or XSPC coolant? It says it has antibacterial stuff and anti corrosion stuff in it.

EK doesn't work with aluminium and copper mixed metals so it is out for AIO. XSPC doesn't even state can you mix, they just say it works with these metals but not a word about mixing, so dunno, probably doesn't work. Probably same thing as with EK and mixing is a big no no for their liquids.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, sl06bhytmar said:

EK doesn't work with aluminium and copper mixed metals so it is out for AIO. XSPC doesn't even state can you mix, they just say it works with these metals but not a word about mixing, so dunno, probably doesn't work. Probably same thing as with EK and mixing is a big no no for their liquids.

 

 

Wouldn't you think EK coolant would work with EK blocks and EK Rads?

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4 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Wouldn't you think EK coolant would work with EK blocks and EK Rads?

Which are specifically designed to be all copper so they don't deal with aluminium.

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Wouldn't you think EK coolant would work with EK blocks and EK Rads?

You're making so many new threads that it is hard to follow what you're exactly asking. AIO coolers generally are copper / aluminium mix thus EK coolant won't work with AIO coolers. Yes EK coolant would work with their full copper line up and they give it 12 month life time inside the loop and 3 years on shelf. 

 

With all copper systems it doesn't matter what kind liquid pre-mix you actually use, all of them have corrosion / algae protection for small amount of anomalies. as I said above the more life you want to put in the liquid more air tight you need to make the system by using thicker walled tubes made from other than silicon or not so airtight materials and use air tight quality fittings and fill hole covers. So us debating here is liquid a), b), c), d) or e) better than liquid x) in a car is useless if you cannot make nice air tight sealant. 

 

Why AIO coolers are very air tight that they use 1.5mm thick walls in tubes, there are fewer fitting holes or refill holes thus liquid inside has very little chance to escape. The weak link probably is the pump fittings which are single or dual o-ring seals (Asetek based ones) but much better than full loop with lets say 16-20 fittings installed and half of that with hole covers.

 

Because of those reason the norm change every one year has become the norm because people fear their $300-400 loop gets clogged up, I am going to go even more ultimate soon when I get a few things probably next week, I will be combining three 120mm aluminium rads, two copper blocks, which originally were fully working AIO coolersm new high quality thick tubing, a new small reservoir and I will use hose clamps and the coolant concentrate that I recommended above.

 

When I have tested system to be leak free (I would love to test how air tight it actually would be but sadly I don't have 3/8" fitting available that I could easily connect to reservoir with my bicycle hand pump to check how it would hold 1 bar pressure) I will leave it alone without flushing it until I want to change lets say graphics card if I need to change block unit for that but otherwise I trust it to be pretty maintenance free and I doubt I will have any kind issues even after 3-4 years.

 

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9 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Which are specifically designed to be all copper so they don't deal with aluminium.

What about Nickel blocks?

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