What printer to get?

[charbel1011]

I have an hp deskjet 1112 printer right now it's an old printer it can't copy or scan just print, i want an affordable printer for daily use and school stuff that able to copy and scan and if it can be wireless it will be nice for fast printing when i need it, and if it's possible affordable ink too. price range 50-60$ as i saw most of them on amazon.com for that price and they look nice so i need your opinion on this. thank you

[Trevor87]

Have Look at Canon printer there normally well priced and there refills are well priced as well.

 

[Xanthe_2871]

Canon has the Canon PIXMA MG2520 Inkjet All-in-One Printer which sells for $30 at Walmart. It is an all in one, and comes with ink. The ink refills at Walmart are more than the printer itself, so you can either:

 

Option 1) Buy a whole new $30 printer with ink included every time you run out, and sell the old printer to some idiot who doesn't research ink prices. If you can get $10 for the old printer each time, then you'd have yourself a pretty good scheme.

 

Option 2) Buy refills online. These won't be too much cheaper, if you really want cheap refills then you have to spend more than $50 on the printer itself.  

[charbel1011]

Just now, Xanthe_2871 said:

Canon has the Canon PIXMA MG2520 Inkjet All-in-One Printer which sells for $30 at Walmart. It is an all in one, and comes with ink. The ink refills at Walmart are more than the printer itself, so you can either:

 

Option 1) Buy a whole new $30 printer with ink included every time you run out, and sell the old printer to some idiot who doesn't research ink prices. If you can get $10 for the old printer each time, then you'd have yourself a pretty good scheme.

 

Option 2) Buy refills online. These won't be too much cheaper, if you really want cheap refills then you have to spend more than $50 on the printer itself.  

No problem ill spend more than 50$ on printer itself i just dont want to spend a fortune on ink everytime i ran out just if you can list me some

[Xanthe_2871]

3 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

No problem ill spend more than 50$ on printer itself i just dont want to spend a fortune on ink everytime i ran out just if you can list me some

The Brother HL-2270DW has pretty cheap refills, and since it's laser you would not need to worry about clogs like you do with an inkjet. 

[charbel1011]

Just now, Xanthe_2871 said:

The Brother HL-2270DW has pretty cheap refills, and since it's laser you would not need to worry about clogs like you do with an inkjet. 

Oh hell no 200$ no that's too much i thought for 80$ or something can you list another good printer for 60$-70$

[Xanthe_2871]

16 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

Oh hell no 200$ no that's too much i thought for 80$ or something can you list another good printer for 60$-70$

I can but printers in that range will have refills that cost $40 or so. 

[charbel1011]

13 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

I can but printers in that range will have refills that cost $40 or so. 

I don't print like heavy everyday and sometimes i print only 1 per week it depends like you know college paper here paper there i aint a heavy printer user , just if you may list some. please

[Xanthe_2871]

5 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

I don't print like heavy everyday and sometimes i print only 1 per week and like it's different, just if you may list some. please

Well, tell me what is more important to you. Do you want a cheap printer with expensive refills, or an expensive printer with cheap refills? 

[charbel1011]

55 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Well, tell me what is more important to you. Do you want a cheap printer with expensive refills, or an expensive printer with cheap refills? 

Well how much expensive? like 150$-200$ out of my range and i how much are going to be the refills for cheap printers anyway 40$? i can handle that.

[Xanthe_2871]

5 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

Well how much expensive? like 150$-200$ out of my range and i how much are going to be the refills for cheap printers anyway 40$? i can handle that.

Cheap refills will work with $300 to $700 printers

 

Your other option is the $40 to $150 printers with ink refills that cost roughly $25 for black or $50 black + color. (color on it's own would be $30)

 

I think, honestly, a good option if buying that $30 Canon at Walmart, then throwing it away and buying a whole new printer each time you run out of ink. It's $30 for a brand new machine plus ink, or $50 for just ink... which would you choose? 

[charbel1011]

Just now, Xanthe_2871 said:

Cheap refills will work with $300 to $700 printers

 

Your other option is the $40 to $150 printers with ink refills that cost roughly $25 for black or $50 black + color. (color on it's own would be $30)

 

I think, honestly, a good option if buying that $30 Canon at Walmart, then throwing it away and buying a whole new printer each time you run out of ink. It's $30 for a brand new machine plus ink, or $50 for just ink... which would you choose? 

50$ ink

[Xanthe_2871]

20 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

50$ ink

Really? Why? 

[charbel1011]

1 minute ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Really? Why? 

That's it im done with this forum officially every time i come here there's trolling i guess it's not for professionals anyway asking me to throw my printer every time i am running out of ink is clearly showing your less knowledge all i asked for is links for good wireless printers around that range with some decent cheap ink im paying 35$ ink right now so. please any mod delete this post 

[Xanthe_2871]

1 minute ago, charbel1011 said:

That's it im done with this forum officially every time i come here there's trolling i guess it's not for professionals anyway asking me to throw my printer every time i am running out of ink is clearly showing your less knowledge all i asked for is links for good wireless printers around that range with some decent cheap ink im paying 35$ ink right now so. please any mod delete this post 

I'm not trolling, that's a valid way to save money on ink. Printers and ink are both very expensive. If you just want good printers, how about a review website? 

 

https://wearetop10.com/top-10-best-wireless-printers/

http://www.best5list.com/best-printers-under-50

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1880946,00.asp

[charbel1011]

On 11/16/2016 at 4:20 PM, Xanthe_2871 said:

I'm not trolling, that's a valid way to save money on ink. Printers and ink are both very expensive. If you just want good printers, how about a review website? 

 

https://wearetop10.com/top-10-best-wireless-printers/

http://www.best5list.com/best-printers-under-50

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1880946,00.asp

I found this printer https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Business-MX922-Wireless-printing/dp/B00AVWKUJS/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479336238&sr=1-1&keywords=canon+printer and this ink https://www.amazon.com/Office-World-Replacement-Cartridges-Compatible/dp/B01EMFIJHE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479336443&sr=8-1&keywords=canon+mx922+ink+cartridges 20$ so what do you think? and i want to apologize for what i said lately.

 

 please reply.

[Xanthe_2871]

On 11/16/2016 at 4:52 PM, charbel1011 said:

I found this printer https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Business-MX922-Wireless-printing/dp/B00AVWKUJS/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479336238&sr=1-1&keywords=canon+printer and this ink https://www.amazon.com/Office-World-Replacement-Cartridges-Compatible/dp/B01EMFIJHE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479336443&sr=8-1&keywords=canon+mx922+ink+cartridges 20$ so what do you think? and i want to apologize for what i said lately.

It's ok  And that looks like a good combination. You did say you would print once a week as a minimum, please note that inkjet printers will jam and break if you don't print often enough. I would highly recommend you print at least once every other week to keep that printer happy! 

On 11/16/2016 at 5:15 PM, charbel1011 said:

 please reply.

Sorry, I just got back. I was on the phone with ASUS for a different thread question

[charbel1011]

Just now, Xanthe_2871 said:

Sorry, I just got back. I was on the phone with ASUS for a different thread question

But the ink i provided in link is after market ink but amazon choice is this bad? 

[Xanthe_2871]

2 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

But the ink i provided in link is after market ink but amazon choice is this bad? 

After market is great! They wouldn't sell it if the printer wouldn't take it. Now, I do know at work we use after market ink in our Epson printers, and while it does work the "out of ink" light flashes all the time. So, annoying, but it does work. Not sure about this exact case, but if it didn't work you could always return the ink!

[kirashi]

4 hours ago, charbel1011 said:

I have an hp deskjet 1112 printer right now it's an old printer it can't copy or scan just print, i want an affordable printer for daily use and school stuff that able to copy and scan and if it can be wireless it will be nice for fast printing when i need it, and if it's possible affordable ink too. price range 50-60$ as i saw most of them on amazon.com for that price and they look nice so i need your opinion on this. thank you

I used to work in a retail office supply store selling electronics and doohickeys and what not. After 5 years, I learned how to ethically sell printers.

(Hint: the words "ethical" and "printer" almost NEVER appear in the same sentence - they're designed to be expensive from the get-go.)

 

That said, can you specifically answer the following questions so I can make a recommendation for you?

• Do you need color printing, or can you make do with Black & White (mono) at home?
  • (you can print the odd color document at school or a library)
• On average, how many pages per month/per week do you print?
  • Or, how fast do you go through 500 sheets (a ream) of paper?
• What features do you need? Printing, scanning, and copying, obviously, but are you also after:
  • Faxing?
  • WiFi?
  • AirPrint?
  • Duplexing?
  • Bagel making?

I know you've answered some of these questions in your original post, but it would help just to clarify them.

 

Now, in general, printer manufacturer's have the cost per page / ink & supply game nailed down - they know how to make a killing.

Cheap printers have expensive ink, and cheap ink requires an expensive printer.

This is how the game is played - you don't like it? Then don't buy a printer. However, you can make it work if you buy the right printer for the job.

 

Laser printers generally have a lower cost per page, but will cost more up front, since the toner cartridges give you more for your money.

Monochrome laser printers are generally where I start for people who don't print a lot, and who don't need color.

- Sure, you might spend $100-$300 on a monochrome laser, but your cost per page can be as low as $0.02 cents.

Color lasers keep your cost per page low, around $0.06-$0.10 cents per page, but the machines go up in price considerably.

- A color laser for home use is usually overkill, since the machines start around $350 and go up from there with additional features.

 

Inkjet printers are tricky beasts - the market is so saturated with machines that should be more illegal to sell than crack on a street corner.

The trick here is to pick an inkjet that has all the features you need, but isn't priced at the bottom of the barrel.

Now, I'm not telling you to spend $200 on an inkjet printer - not unless you need the more business like features you'd get at that price bracket.

But the difference in ink costs between a printer priced lower than $100 and a machine in the $120-$180 rang is significant.

- Closest example would be HP's $50 printers having a cost of $0.22 per page, compared to their $120 machines having a cost of $0.08 per page.

[charbel1011]

23 minutes ago, kirashi said:

I used to work in a retail office supply store selling electronics and doohickeys and what not. After 5 years, I learned how to ethically sell printers.

(Hint: the words "ethical" and "printer" almost NEVER appear in the same sentence - they're designed to be expensive from the get-go.)

 

That said, can you specifically answer the following questions so I can make a recommendation for you?

• Do you need color printing, or can you make do with Black & White (mono) at home?
  • (you can print the odd color document at school or a library)
• On average, how many pages per month/per week do you print?
  • Or, how fast do you go through 500 sheets (a ream) of paper?
• What features do you need? Printing, scanning, and copying, obviously, but are you also after:
  • Faxing?
  • WiFi?
  • AirPrint?
  • Duplexing?
  • Bagel making?

I know you've answered some of these questions in your original post, but it would help just to clarify them.

 

Now, in general, printer manufacturer's have the cost per page / ink & supply game nailed down - they know how to make a killing.

Cheap printers have expensive ink, and cheap ink requires an expensive printer.

This is how the game is played - you don't like it? Then don't buy a printer. However, you can make it work if you buy the right printer for the job.

 

Laser printers generally have a lower cost per page, but will cost more up front, since the toner cartridges give you more for your money.

Monochrome laser printers are generally where I start for people who don't print a lot, and who don't need color.

- Sure, you might spend $100-$300 on a monochrome laser, but your cost per page can be as low as $0.02 cents.

Color lasers keep your cost per page low, around $0.06-$0.10 cents per page, but the machines go up in price considerably.

- A color laser for home use is usually overkill, since the machines start around $350 and go up from there with additional features.

 

Inkjet printers are tricky beasts - the market is so saturated with machines that should be more illegal to sell than crack on a street corner.

The trick here is to pick an inkjet that has all the features you need, but isn't priced at the bottom of the barrel.

Now, I'm not telling you to spend $200 on an inkjet printer - not unless you need the more business like features you'd get at that price bracket.

But the difference in ink costs between a printer priced lower than $100 and a machine in the $120-$180 rang is significant.

- Closest example would be HP's $50 printers having a cost of $0.22 per page, compared to their $120 machines having a cost of $0.08 per page.

 

 

 

im not a business user im just a college user that print from day to day an sometimes 2 times per week or less i dont change ink often sometimes it takes me 2 months to change ink and sometimes more all i asked for maybe i didnt sound correct as english not my first language is want a printer that copy scan and print, and be wireless and i use the multi colors ink as i need it for my projects so colors are important but i don't use fax. and i don't mind paying ink range 20$-30$ and air print sounds nice for fast printing from my phone so if you can give simple recommendation on what to buy thank you

[kirashi]

46 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

im not a business user im just a college user that print from day to day an sometimes 2 times per week or less i dont change ink often sometimes it takes me 2 months to change ink and sometimes more all i asked for maybe i didnt sound correct as english not my first language is want a printer that copy scan and print, and be wireless and i use the multi colors ink as i need it for my projects so colors are important but i don't use fax. and i don't mind paying ink range 20$-30$ 

I understand your English well enough - no problem  Alright, so it sounds to me like you want a printer, scanner, copying machine with all the standard features that can handle 25 pages per week or less. (Works out to 100 pages a month, or 500 pages per 5 months.) Definitely do-able, and there are machines in your price range.

 

I would recommend spending a little over budget on the machine, since they will have less expensive inks.

Something in the $80-100 range would be a good buy for you.

(You can definitely cheap out on the machine, but you're going to be paying more for ink then, so its up to you.)

 

Printers that just take a Black and Color ink are going to run you through the roof compared to those that take 4 individual colors and a black.

Just be sure to print something at least once a month to keep the inkheads and tube clog free.

 

Personally, I would look at the HP OfficeJet 6978 All in One machine, since it's their lowest offering that takes individual color cartridges and a black.

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/printers/hp-officejet-pro-6978-all-in-one-printer-t0f29a-b1h

Obviously DON'T PAY FULL PRICE for it - make sure to buy it on sale for ~$80-90, give or take.

A close second is the slightly lower model, the OfficeJet 6968 All in One, which is only lacking double sided scanning and scan to USB.

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/printers/hp-officejet-pro-6968-all-in-one-printer-t0f28a-b1h

Once you have Scan to USB though, you might really enjoy using it, since Scanning over Wireless is extremely unreliable still.

Both of these models have a page cost between $0.06-$0.08 for black & white and $0.08-$0.12 for full page quality color.

 

Please note, the Canon MX922 is a good choice as well, since it has individual ink tanks, and the overall page cost is similar to the two HP printers above. I'm just not a fan of how long it can take a Canon inkjet to actually print a document once you hit print on your computer or phone, and thus cannot recommend them over HP personally. To be clear, Canon makes good printers, especially for photographs, but whoever programs their software doesn't know what they're doing.

 

Any other questions, just ask.

[charbel1011]

13 hours ago, kirashi said:

I understand your English well enough - no problem  Alright, so it sounds to me like you want a printer, scanner, copying machine with all the standard features that can handle 25 pages per week or less. (Works out to 100 pages a month, or 500 pages per 5 months.) Definitely do-able, and there are machines in your price range.

 

I would recommend spending a little over budget on the machine, since they will have less expensive inks.

Something in the $80-100 range would be a good buy for you.

(You can definitely cheap out on the machine, but you're going to be paying more for ink then, so its up to you.)

 

Printers that just take a Black and Color ink are going to run you through the roof compared to those that take 4 individual colors and a black.

Just be sure to print something at least once a month to keep the inkheads and tube clog free.

 

Personally, I would look at the HP OfficeJet 6978 All in One machine, since it's their lowest offering that takes individual color cartridges and a black.

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/printers/hp-officejet-pro-6978-all-in-one-printer-t0f29a-b1h

Obviously DON'T PAY FULL PRICE for it - make sure to buy it on sale for ~$80-90, give or take.

A close second is the slightly lower model, the OfficeJet 6968 All in One, which is only lacking double sided scanning and scan to USB.

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/printers/hp-officejet-pro-6968-all-in-one-printer-t0f28a-b1h

Once you have Scan to USB though, you might really enjoy using it, since Scanning over Wireless is extremely unreliable still.

Both of these models have a page cost between $0.06-$0.08 for black & white and $0.08-$0.12 for full page quality color.

 

Please note, the Canon MX922 is a good choice as well, since it has individual ink tanks, and the overall page cost is similar to the two HP printers above. I'm just not a fan of how long it can take a Canon inkjet to actually print a document once you hit print on your computer or phone, and thus cannot recommend them over HP personally. To be clear, Canon makes good printers, especially for photographs, but whoever programs their software doesn't know what they're doing.

 

Any other questions, just ask.

I was thinking about the mx922 and i think it's a little bit overkill for faxing since i don't use fax what about this printer? https://www.amazon.com/Canon-MG5720-Wireless-Printer-Scanner/dp/B013C0ZHLQ and the aftermarket ink for it https://www.amazon.com/Arthur-Imaging-Compatible-Cartridge-Replacement/dp/B01EO0E49Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479394092&sr=1-1&keywords=Canon+MG5720+ink what do you think?

[Guest]

This is what I have but is over $120

https://www.amazon.com/Brother-DCPL2540DW-Wireless-Certified-Replenishment/dp/B00MFG57ZK/ref=sr_1_3?s=office-electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479396080&sr=1-3

 

I don't think there are quality printer even under $100 with scanner. Unless you have to used. Brother and Canon are good brands. Maybe Epson. I had Samsung in the past, works good too, doesn't explode fortunately

[charbel1011]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

This is what I have but is over $120

https://www.amazon.com/Brother-DCPL2540DW-Wireless-Certified-Replenishment/dp/B00MFG57ZK/ref=sr_1_3?s=office-electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479396080&sr=1-3

 

I don't think there are quality printer even under $100 with scanner. Unless you have to used. Brother and Canon are good brands. Maybe Epson. I had Samsung in the past, works good too, doesn't explode fortunately

There's tones of them under 100$ and can do everything but im having diffuculties buying the good one