Kraken V2 Custom?

[Vincanti]

So i really like the Cpu Block on the new Kraken V2, Anyone that has their hands on one or someone that does custom custom loops tell me if i could pull it apart and use it in a custom loop? And if so is Hard tubing an option as well? Looking at it the blocks got a weird connection looking like its only meant for soft tubing.. 

But i still have hope.

[bgibbz]

The biggest issue is going to be the integrated pump. A pump is integrated into the block, and this pump may not be powerful enough for custom loop. 

[Vincanti]

That's understandable I plan on using another pump either way built into the res.

[Alexzz_]

3 minutes ago, Vincanti said:

That's understandable I plan on using another pump either way built into the res.

that might not be possible without removing the original pump, because it could block the flow of water or short circuit when you pump water trough with a outside pump. however maybe you can modify it or run the pumps simultaneously to prevent this.

[Vincanti]

Yea i figured in any case this would be a big pull apart of the pump, whether it be for getting tubing connected to it or even removing the included pump. I have seen some people run two pumps simultaneously but its usually two exterior pumps.

 

Now there there is another question that could help with the pump issue, i plan on doing this in a mini itx case, Fractal Nano S, I also plan on using one slim 120 rad either in the front or top, i would have a gpu connected in the loop as well. Now Kraken boasts a improved pump design with higher flow rate ect. ect. Would this push enough fluid to work the system? This site i found real quick has some good specs on flow rate head pressure ect.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2662-nzxt-kraken-x52-x62-x42-review-and-benchmarks-noise-temp?showall=1

 

Short Version :

Pump Speed

~1000-2800RPM

Flow	27.27-98.17CFM

Pressure

0.21-2.71mm-H20

 

These flows and speeds are based on the X42 Version. While i understand that this is based on the contained unit, im still wondering if this could push a custom loop that is relatively small.

[sl06bhytmar]

For Asetek original pumps that were used in Antec kuhler 620 the flow rate is amazing 40 to 50 liters/h. And for head pressure, well cannot say anything about it because don't have tools to measure it  

[Vincanti]

9 hours ago, sl06bhytmar said:

For Asetek original pumps that were used in Antec kuhler 620 the flow rate is amazing 40 to 50 liters/h. And for head pressure, well cannot say anything about it because don't have tools to measure it  

Well that's good to hear, i read through the page i linked up above some more. ( i had to leave earlier because of work). And i noticed that it is running some Asetek pump parts. If its anything like the one you mentioned it could work really well.

 

Unfortunately i was unable to find any information that i could understand about Liters/h in the pages but all in all what i'm hearing so far there could be a really good possibility of making this work even with another pump. Apparently through the Cam Software you are able to adjust the pump speed. Now if someone that understand the information about pump speed flow rates ect. could tell me whether or not i could get the blocks pump to match the speed of an pump like this, and make it workable that would be awesome. Because really if i can get them to work together I'd like to have that. But if i need to tear apart the block to figure a way to get that separated or off without blocking flow, that'll work too.

 

All in all this is a project that hasn't really started yet i just wanted to first off get it out there because its been an idea in my head ever since i first saw this cooler on Awesomesauce (cough Cough COUGH) I mean BitWits Channel.

[sl06bhytmar]

I don't know can you go as slow as 40-50l/h with D5 pump. It is about equal to filling a 330cl cup in 30 seconds which is very slow. I don't know how Kraken X62 looks like inside but with Antec 620 you can ignore the pump inside because it is free rotating rotor and you can just leave the pump unconnected.

 

 

[Vincanti]

Found This "

"Removing the pump plate reveals two sets of PCBs: The base PCB from Asetek (green) and the custom PCB designed by NZXT (black). The black PCB is wafer-like in size, and on it dwells a set of eight total LEDs that operate at 3W each – fairly powerful, given the tight space (note: we're told there are nine LEDs in total, but only counted eight in the main ring of LEDs). Side flare LEDs and a light guide are used to “pull” light out of the CLC for viewing. NZXT is using an ST Microelectronics ARM Cortex M3 MCU, specifically the STM32 (32-bit) F103C8T6. As far as we know, this is the first consumer-ready, Asetek-supplied cooler that has been made with partner input on the electronics.

 

The impeller itself is housed internally this time, and no longer rests visible within an exposed socket. The rest of the functions are identical to every CLC we've ever taken apart: A coldplate uses densely packed copper microfins to expand surface area, through which flows liquid to whisk heat up-and-out to the radiator. "

 

Here's Source : http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2662-nzxt-kraken-x52-x62-x42-review-and-benchmarks-noise-temp?showall=1

 

Edit: added more info.

[sl06bhytmar]

Pump propeller design seems to be more efficient these days than first generation asetek pumps I think the performance is still less than 150l/h. Well anyway the rotor is still free rotating with magnets so basically you can use these blocks without using the pump, the rotor will simply spin with flow. I wonder if you disconnect the rotor coil from PCB you might even have a flow meter of some sorts  Might test this myself with antec 620.

[Vincanti]

1 hour ago, sl06bhytmar said:

Pump propeller design seems to be more efficient these days than first generation asetek pumps I think the performance is still less than 150l/h. Well anyway the rotor is still free rotating with magnets so basically you can use these blocks without using the pump, the rotor will simply spin with flow. I wonder if you disconnect the rotor coil from PCB you might even have a flow meter of some sorts  Might test this myself with antec 620.

Sounds like something good to test, either way at least it sounds possible and being the pipes the fluid come in through seems just as easily removed modding or even custom printing could be an option as well. Just have to wait n see once i get my hands on a cooler i guess.