Installing AIO on 1070?

[Techicolors]

i have a EVGA 1070 SC and i'm interested in installing the hybrid kit  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IPVQUSG/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

mostly why i'm doing this is to lower temps (air temps are 70-75c full load, with a custom fan curve 65-70c), have a more silent build, and get a bit more overclocking. though i'm not sure if i'll benefit much with the latter as i heard the SC doesn't OC as well as the FTW. a note about pascal is that there's dynamic overclocking and i want to keep clocks above 2000mhz. thought an AIO would achieve that but i can be wrong there

 

 

[Techicolors]

no one have any advice on this? 

[Deli]

I doubt you would gain any extra clock speed with lower temp, if your 1070 is running 70-75C.

[Techicolors]

26 minutes ago, Deli said:

I doubt you would gain any extra clock speed with lower temp, if your 1070 is running 70-75C.

wouldn't lower temps help in holding higher clock speeds? 

[VagabondWraith]

30 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

wouldn't lower temps help in holding higher clock speeds? 

Yes it will. My 1080 will hold steady 2076 at 38-39c and will never back down. You probably won't get more OC on liquid, it will just keep your max stable OC constant.

[Deli]

30 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

wouldn't lower temps help in holding higher clock speeds? 

If your GPU is in the 80C+.

 

Is it worth the money of an AIO for that 20-30MHz? I have an ASUS Strix 1070. My CPU runs on a custom loop. I don't even bother to expand the loop to my GPU.

Not worth the hassle.

[Deli]

4 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

Yes it will. My 1080 will hold steady 2076 at 38-39c and will never back down. You probably won't get more OC on liquid, it will just keep your max stable OC constant.

But the cost of an AIO plus the GPU bracket for a $450 GTX1070.....for very little gain.

 

You have the top end card, the extra cost of water cooling makes more sense.

[VagabondWraith]

4 minutes ago, Deli said:

But the cost of an AIO plus the GPU bracket for a $450 GTX1070.....for very little gain.

 

You have the top end card, the extra cost of water cooling makes more sense.

Well if he's willing to pay for it and money's not an issue, I don't see what the problem is. I'm just telling him that his OC will always be stable under liquid. Whether he feels that cost is worth it (which to me it is since he's asking about it) is up to him.

[Deli]

1 minute ago, VagabondWraith said:

Well if he's willing to pay for it and money's not an issue, I don't see what the problem is. I'm just telling him that his OC will always be stable under liquid. Whether he feels that cost is worth it (which to me it is since he's asking about it) is up to him.

You're right.

[Maxxtraxx]

3 hours ago, Technicolors said:

i have a EVGA 1070 SC and i'm interested in installing the hybrid kit  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IPVQUSG/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

mostly why i'm doing this is to lower temps (air temps are 70-75c full load, with a custom fan curve 65-70c), have a more silent build, and get a bit more overclocking. though i'm not sure if i'll benefit much with the latter as i heard the SC doesn't OC as well as the FTW. a note about pascal is that there's dynamic overclocking and i want to keep clocks above 2000mhz. thought an AIO would achieve that but i can be wrong there

 

 

The AIO will give you much better temps, it can possibly unlock higher clock speeds (it did on my 1080)

 

When it comes to Overclocking the pascal cards the quality and quantity of card components seems have very little effect from the results I've seen and seems to depend mostly on the silicon lottery. I would hope an AIO would help you push beyond 2000mhz but there is no guarantee in overclocking.

 

FYI: since you have an EVGA 1070 SC, do you know if your card has the updated VRM cooling? I'm guessing it doesn't since that has only come to light in the last week. There have ben serious card failures due to the VRM's failing.

You can contact EVGA and get a VRM cooling upgrade for free or send it back to them for a free replacement with the upgraded cooling installed already.

I would do this before you install your AIO.

[Deli]

2 minutes ago, Maxxtraxx said:

The AIO will give you much better temps, it can possibly unlock higher clock speeds (it did on my 1080)

 

When it comes to Overclocking the pascal cards the quality and quantity of card components seems have very little effect from the results I've seen and seems to depend mostly on the silicon lottery. I would hope an AIO would help you push beyond 2000mhz but there is no guarantee in overclocking.

 

FYI: since you have an EVGA 1070 SC, do you know if your card has the updated VRM cooling? I'm guessing it doesn't since that has only come to light in the last week.

You can contact EVGA and get a VRM cooling upgrade for free or send it back to them for a free replacement with the upgraded cooling installed already.

I would do this before you install your AIO.

I think the extra thermal pads is for the FTW edition.

[Maxxtraxx]

3 minutes ago, Deli said:

I think the extra thermal pads is for the FTW edition.

Quoted from WCCF(not the paragon of reliability)

 "The issue affects EVGA’s entire range of Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 cards equipped with the ACX cooler, all of which lack direct VRM cooling. This includes GTX 1080 & 1070 ACX, SC, FTW & FTW DT models. Essentially all dual fan models except the Classified."

[Techicolors]

23 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

Yes it will. My 1080 will hold steady 2076 at 38-39c and will never back down. You probably won't get more OC on liquid, it will just keep your max stable OC constant.

i want to hold max stable OC all the time. so the AIO can achieve it?

 

5 minutes ago, Maxxtraxx said:

The AIO will give you much better temps, it can possibly unlock higher clock speeds (it did on my 1080)

 

When it comes to Overclocking the pascal cards the quality and quantity of card components seems have very little effect from the results I've seen and seems to depend mostly on the silicon lottery. I would hope an AIO would help you push beyond 2000mhz but there is no guarantee in overclocking.

 

FYI: since you have an EVGA 1070 SC, do you know if your card has the updated VRM cooling? I'm guessing it doesn't since that has only come to light in the last week.

You can contact EVGA and get a VRM cooling upgrade for free or send it back to them for a free replacement with the upgraded cooling installed already.

I would do this before you install your AIO.

i am able to boost as high as 2114mhz but it drops down once temps start climbing

 

guess i could wait for the thermal pads, though i'm not sure if it'll be compatible with the hybrid kit. should be anyways

 

 

[VagabondWraith]

@Technicolors

 

Yes, absolutely.

[Maxxtraxx]

1 minute ago, Technicolors said:

i want to hold max stable OC all the time. so the AIO can achieve it?

 

i am able to boost as high as 2114mhz but it drops down once temps start climbing

 

guess i could wait for the thermal pads, though i'm not sure if it'll be compatible with the hybrid kit. should be anyways

 

 

If you can hit 2114 with the current cooler, you'll be able to hit it with the AIO. The AIO should reduce the amount that it drops over time but Pascal chips are nearly impossible to lock into a specific OC number the chips will automatically adjust themselves and alter clockrate depending on load no matter what you do. I imagine it should be compatible with the hybrid kit since the same kit comes preinstalled on their own cards if you buy the Hybrid models.

[Techicolors]

9 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

@Technicolors

 

Yes, absolutely.

 

6 minutes ago, Maxxtraxx said:

If you can hit 2114 with the current cooler, you'll be able to hit it with the AIO. The AIO should reduce the amount that it drops over time but Pascal chips are nearly impossible to lock into a specific OC number the chips will automatically adjust themselves and alter clockrate depending on load no matter what you do. I imagine it should be compatible with the hybrid kit since the same kit comes preinstalled on their own cards if you buy the Hybrid models.

ok so i can't expect 2114mhz clock all the time? that's a bit of a bummer. but substantially lower temps and an overall quieter system (as long as the pump isn't too loud) is enough for me

 

 

how should i mount the radiator? it's a single radiator the kit comes with, but the CPU cooler is a U14S, so it's pretty large. my case is a full-tower as well but i might have to pull something off to get the radiator mounted on top. 

[VagabondWraith]

@Technicolors

 

I mounted mine where the rear exhaust fan used to be in push/pull config. Make sure to use push/pull as it will lower temps an extra 5-6c compared to push or pull. I'm not sure about your case but I my only spot was the rear as the tubes aren't exactly lengthy.

[Techicolors]

2 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

@Technicolors

 

I mounted mine where the rear exhaust fan used to be in push/pull config. Make sure to use push/pull as it will lower temps an extra 5-6c compared to push or pull. I'm not sure about your case but I my only spot was the rear as the tubes aren't exactly lengthy.

like i said i can probably mount the radiator at the top, but i'm not sure if the tubing will press onto the plastic window. and what would be good fans for a push/pull that won't break the bank? 

[Maxxtraxx]

22 hours ago, Technicolors said:

like i said i can probably mount the radiator at the top, but i'm not sure if the tubing will press onto the plastic window. and what would be good fans for a push/pull that won't break the bank? 

EVGA recommends the radiator to be mounted vertically with the hoses at the bottom to help prevent any air pockets in the system from being sucked down into the pump/GPU block. I would recommend mounting it in either the front or the back of the case if possible.