is x99 a futureproof MoBo?

[PainBlame]

They say games may start to using more cores in the future. Yes a lot of quad core processors are better than 8 core processors. Is a quad core just a fancy name for 4 cores? Unlike thee 2 duo where as its two cores connected?

I just need to get this clear. Would buying a 6 core intel core i7-5820k today, benefit in the future? Or should i stick to a faster quad core for now and upgrade to 6 core years in the future? Because the 6 cores have less Ghz and are much more expensive.

I would do a lot of gaming. I know most software actually use a single core instead so its better to have a 3.6ghz quad core than a 3.3ghz 6 core. 

 

Last question is a 6 core processor have the same architect set up as a quad core?

 

 

 

[Rohime]

For games alone?   Faster quad core is better today.

But if you are doing things like video encoding as well, then more cores is better.

 

[AinsleyHarriot539]

 Is a quad core just a fancy name for 4 cores?

Yes it is a fancy of saying 4 cores but that is physical cores not hyper threading.

 

A 4 core CPU is plenty more gaming a multi core CPU is for more CPU intensive applications. If your only going to play games stick with the 4 core. The architect of a CPU vary on the chip set and model. For example all Skylake CPU's are all based off the same architecture and this can be applied to GPU's also. All the pascal GPU's (the 10 series) and also there is no such thing as future proofing as all parts are replaced with better parts within several years.

[HKZeroFive]

There's nothing truly 'futureproof'. By the time games leverage those extra cores to their full potential, those CPUs are likely to be irrelevant. A i7 6700K still handily beats out the i7 5960X in a DX12 game such as Ashes of the Singularity.

 

I will say stick to with the faster quad core i7 6700K. Games still prefer fewer, faster cores and I'm sure that trend will continue well into the future.

 

Of course, if you're doing other work such as rendering, animation, virtual machines etc., I would be going for the i7 5820K.

13 minutes ago, PainBlame said:

Last question is a 6 core processor have the same architect set up as a quad core?

The i7 5820K is a Haswell CPU whilst a i7 6700K is a Skylake CPU.

[porina]

The 5820k, with good enough cooling, can be overclocked as fast as a quad of the same generation so you don't loose out on performance there. Skylake can be slightly faster but it doesn't offset you will have 6 cores.

 

If it is worth it is up to you. Where I am the 5820k is a little more expensive than a 6700k, plus for a comparable quality motherboard the x99 will cost more. And you don't want to skimp on the ram if going x99. So, it will cost more, to get you more. For me, a 6700k has handled pretty much anything gaming I throw at it. Can't tell the difference in real world between it and the even cheaper 6600k.

[chatter_box]

Yes, an X99 mobo is quite future proof. I would start with an i7-5820k as it is going much less now.

[xephoneration]

 every time someone mentions future proofing -.- 

 

 

[Cereal5]

30 minutes ago, PainBlame said:

Is a quad core just a fancy name for 4 cores

yes

 

30 minutes ago, PainBlame said:

Would buying a 6 core intel core i7-5820k today, benefit in the future?

Possibly, if the majority of games go to Vulcan/DX12.

 

31 minutes ago, PainBlame said:

I would do a lot of gaming.

Only get a 6 core if you do content creation (streaming, youtube videos, video editing, etc)

 

32 minutes ago, PainBlame said:

Last question is a 6 core processor have the same architect set up as a quad core?

No, X99 is 6+ cores only, you would have to get a new motherboard if you got a 4 core than wanted to switch to 6 or 8

[Matias_Chambers]

Honestly, I would just go with an i7 6700K or wait for KabyLake (i7 7700K) I haven't seen a game where a 6+ core CPU has beaten a 6700K. Usually it's fairly even and the 6700K is usually 0-10 fps faster. Even in DX12. 

[PainBlame]

14 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

There's nothing truly 'futureproof'. By the time games leverage those extra cores to their full potential, those CPUs are likely to be irrelevant. A i7 6700K still handily beats out the i7 5960X in a DX12 game such as Ashes of the Singularity.

 

I will say stick to with the faster quad core i7 6700K. Games still prefer fewer, faster cores and I'm sure that trend will continue well into the future.

 

Of course, if you're doing other work such as rendering, animation, virtual machines etc., I would be going for the i7 5820K.

The i7 5820K is a Haswell CPU whilst a i7 6700K is a Skylake CPU.

The haswell- E  i7 5820K 6 core has a %91 best rating. It has 15mb L3 Cache. People have claimed to overclock it to 4.4ghz. At $390.

The skylake i7 6700k 8m quad core has a %88 best rating. It has 8mh L3 shared Cache. People have claimed to overclock it to 4.9Ghz. At $330

 

The skylake has a higher Ghz but the Haswell has 2 more cores and almost twice the cache  The price isn't a huge difference. Wouldn't the Haswell-E be better for price and performance? I want this computer to last the way it is for at least 5 years. You guys don't think games will start to go to 6 cores within 2 years? With 4k graphics cards coming out, and the new xbox one model actually has the ability to play in low 4k res. I find this to be a good hint.

 

Last question is going to be stupid but, if quad cores are 4 cores, than why does my quad core laptop have 8 processors? Does that mean a 6 core would have 12 processors? (I'm new)

Just found out, is that what threads are?

[SLAYR]

2 hours ago, PainBlame said:

The haswell- E  i7 5820K 6 core has a %91 best rating. It has 15mb L3 Cache. People have claimed to overclock it to 4.4ghz. At $390.

The skylake i7 6700k 8m quad core has a %88 best rating. It has 8mh L3 shared Cache. People have claimed to overclock it to 4.9Ghz. At $330

 

The skylake has a higher Ghz but the Haswell has 2 more cores and almost twice the cache  The price isn't a huge difference. Wouldn't the Haswell-E be better for price and performance? I want this computer to last the way it is for at least 5 years. You guys don't think games will start to go to 6 cores within 2 years? With 4k graphics cards coming out, and the new xbox one model actually has the ability to play in low 4k res. I find this to be a good hint.

 

Last question is going to be stupid but, if quad cores are 4 cores, than why does my quad core laptop have 8 processors? Does that mean a 6 core would have 12 processors? (I'm new)

Just found out, is that what threads are?

Your laptop has hyperthreading then, it adds an extra thread per every core that is on the cpu, but is not as fast as a core, there is a good techquickie video on this. 

 A six core hyperthreaded cpu will have 12 threads not "processors" those are the entire cpu. 

 

There are a few games that will use up to 16 threads now, but eight threads is the max that game devs are going to code for, reason being is that any 8+ thread cpu is going to be an enthusiast cpu, and will severely limit the audience that can enjoy the game. 

 

Get a 6700k, a z170, it will last a long time, for gaming the extra cores on the 5820k and such aren't worth it.

[HKZeroFive]

2 hours ago, PainBlame said:

The haswell- E  i7 5820K 6 core has a %91 best rating. It has 15mb L3 Cache. People have claimed to overclock it to 4.4ghz. At $390.

The skylake i7 6700k 8m quad core has a %88 best rating. It has 8mh L3 shared Cache. People have claimed to overclock it to 4.9Ghz. At $330

 

The skylake has a higher Ghz but the Haswell has 2 more cores and almost twice the cache  The price isn't a huge difference. Wouldn't the Haswell-E be better for price and performance? I want this computer to last the way it is for at least 5 years. You guys don't think games will start to go to 6 cores within 2 years? With 4k graphics cards coming out, and the new xbox one model actually has the ability to play in low 4k res. I find this to be a good hint.

 

Last question is going to be stupid but, if quad cores are 4 cores, than why does my quad core laptop have 8 processors? Does that mean a 6 core would have 12 processors? (I'm new)

Just found out, is that what threads are?

I'm not sure where you're getting these ratings from because they're irrelevant in the face of hard facts. And frankly, I wouldn't be worrying about L3 cache because that should never be a deciding factor. Overclocking capabilities are purely dependent on the silicon lottery. Not all chips will achieve 4.4GHz and 4.9GHz respectively.

 

Although you say price isn't a huge difference, you also have to factor in the cost of a X99 motherboard. For pure gaming, the i7 6700K remains king due to its faster single core performance and also holds a better price to performance. As the old techie saying goes, games prefer fewer faster cores over several slower cores.

 

I don't think games will utilise six core CPUs to the extent they will surpass quad core ones. I assume you are talking about DirectX 12 and Vulkan when it comes to multi-core utilisation.

 

Here's PCPer's benchmarks of a Ashes of the Singularity (a DX12 game/tech showcase) where Ryan stacks a i7 6700K against the i7 5690X. The former being a quad core and the latter being an octacore.

 

 

The results speak for themselves. The i7 6700K still remains dominant and that's not surprising since that's always has been the case:

As for your last question, what CPU does your laptop have? If it's a hyperthreaded CPU, each thread counts as a 'logical core'. So a i7 5820K with its six cores and twelve threads has six physical cores and twelve logical cores.