New build

[deamerz]

Hello everyone!

I will be buying a new rig mid next month. The reasoning behind this is that I will be getting a gtx 1080, and if there is a chance for 1080ti release in january I want to have the option to upgrade with evga step up. It's not my first pc that I am building, but its the first one with budget this high. I am still unsure about come components, so i figured I'd ask here, as most of you guys deal with those kind of questions daily. I am located in Czech republic, so the prices are a bit higher here, however items with same MSRP as the items I list should cost the same here. The build will be mainly used for gaming and streaming. ATM i run 2 1080p 60hz monitors and 1080p TV. I plan to upgrade 1 monitor to 1440p 144hz early next year. I game on my main monitor only.

 

Case - I decided to go with NXZT S340. The reasoning behind this is that it looks cool, is cheap, as reviewers rate it positively.

 

Mobo - Here I have my doubts, I do not plan to overclock, however I want to have the opportunity later on. I know there are more expensive motherboards with better features, but none of them appeal to me, I do not plan to SLI, I dont really need ultra fast SSDs etc. The 2 options i considered are:

MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK - Reasoning behind this one are the LEDs, at least thats how it is advertised. It also has lower failure rate, and slightly better features than the later option.

MSI Z170-A PRO - The black would fit the theme of my case better, however it does not have any LEDs and it has worse features.

 

CPU - 6700k - I have done my research, I know the 6600k is better bang for the buck and they are almost equal in gaming, but I decided to go with 6700k anyways. I think the biggest factor in here is that I plan to stream from time to time, and if I spend that kind of money for my build, I want to have no regrets of buying "only" i5. I was also briefly considering 5820k, but the fact that I would have to overclock straight away to reach the 6700k was the killer for me. Also in all the benchmarks I checked, the 5820k was performing worse than 6700k.

 

GPU - EVGA GTX 1080 SC - if the 1080Ti comes this jan, I will step up to it. Why not 1070? Because I want to upgrade to 1440p 144hz next year. I am not buying FTW version because I would use white LED anyways, it has higher TDP and I am not planning to do any hardcore overclocking.

 

Storage - regular 2tb HDD, and 128gb ssd. Right now I am leaning towards ADATA XPG SX930. Second option was 750 evo. But based on userbenchamrks SX930 is faster. Also the ADATA has 5 year warranty vs samsungs 3 year. Only thing i hate about it are the looks. Why is it so god damn ugly

 

Fans - NZXT RF-FN142-RB, 140mm - They are white and fit my theme! Should I care more about the fans or are those fine?

 

RAM - starting with 16 gb, later upgrading to 32gb ( I do realize 32gb is overkill, but why not?) However here I change my mind every second. Currently I am deciding between those:

Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 2x8gb 2666mhz

ADATA XPG Z1 2x8gb 2800mhz

Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 2x8gb 3000mhz

Is the jump from 2666mhz to 3000mhz worth it?

 

PSU - Seasonic S12II-620 - Currently using it in my build. Done my research again and at this price tag couldn't find any better. "Downgraded" to this psu from corsair 650w, and it fixed my coil whine. Got nothing to complain about.

 

CPU cooler - My biggest issue currently. Cryorig H7 is not available in the store from where I buy. Deciding between 212 evo and i32. Searched for bechmarks that would have both of those coolers in same test, found only 1. where i32 outperformed 212 evo by 0,5°C. The idle temperatures favored evo, but the i32 is semi-passive cooler and does not spin at lower temperatures. Will this affect lifespan of my cpu? I will also consider any CPU coolers around the 212 price tag!

 

 

If someone is interested in my current build, its stock 2500k, 4x4gb 2133 hyperx ram, sapphire hd 7950 boost, ocz agility 128gb, 1tb hdd, seasonic s12ii-620 and arctic freezer cooler, cannot recall which one anymore. I'll be giving this PC to my gf as soon as I upgrade.

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

CPU and gpu look fine.

 

Don't worry about more fans. 

 

Id get a 250 or bigger boot drive. 120 is too small these days.

 

Id get 32gb now. Its cheaper than buying more later. Id go 2x 16gb. Ram speed doesn't make a big difference.

 

 

[Guest]

You want a 1080 but then you want s340 because it is cheap? What? H440 is bigger. There are Gigabyte and Asus mobo that is black and has RGB too.

Get more storage for SSD. Will only fit 1 - 2 games on it. Third option is 850 Evo please. Or NVME.

I would get Corsair RAM. More speed on RAM is not needed at all

 

 

[JHY]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3GmFPs

[deamerz]

Thanks for your replies guys!

I had to cut some corners to make this build happen, another month of waiting would kill me. I decided to cut the corners on s340, because I could not find any reason why not to, I know that the case affects cooling capabilities, but I have no plants to do any high overclock and I do not think the space should be the issue either? H440 is currently twice the price of s340 in my country.

 

Another part of this cutting corners was the ssd. I currently have agility3 128gb listed above. I have my OS, some software programs and few old MMOs that need to load fast, other games are on my 1tb hdd. I just felt like 250gb would be unnecessary luxury, the loading speed in most modern games doesnt matter anyways. and from the research I have done ssd does not affect the performance of the game. But I might be wrong. I could definitely find another 20 bucks to upgrade to 250gb, but if the only benefit are loading times, I do not think its worth it.

 

As for the motherboard, I could not find any other with LEDs, but maybe the site doesn't have it listed? Gigabyte and ASUS boards that are available for the same price are

- ASUS Z170-P

- GIGABYTE Z170-HD3P

- GIGABYTE Z170-Gaming K3

- GIGABYTE Z170M-D3H

- ASUS Z170M-PLUS

- GIGABYTE Z170-D3H

Does any of them have LEDs too?

 

As for ram ill definitely go for the corsair vengeance, as all of you guys recommended it!

 

CPU coolers - I am really grateful for the suggestions, I could not find any other than cryorig and outdated posts about 212. Should I pick the Pure rock or Shadow rock?

 

PSU - Super Flower Leadex 650w is not available in my country

 

As for the Fractal Design Define S, it surely looks awesome and I thought about Fractal Design cases. But I decided against them, because they are horribly overpriced in my country. Cheapest Define S is 115 usd whereas the s340 is 70 usd.

 

[Gonio]

1: Go with the MSI gaming pro Carbon then. that has led and the USB implementation is performing as it should vs the non carbon one. Should fit your theme well.

 

2:For the GPU make sure it's the ACX 3.0 version cooler on the EVGA card. Is a very good one and still silent. Agree with the 1080 for 144hz 1440p and doubt you need the 1080Ti.

 

3:CPU is good and usefull for cards like the 1080.

 

4:16 GB RAM is all you need, so would stay on that. But if you want to go 32 GB do it now. RAM could get more expensive comming times according to some market trends + it saves you from the possible issues RAM mixing could give. Those speeds overall have no noticable impact apart form some specific cases, so jsut go with the cheaper, unless price is only marginally more.

 

5: Go with a 250 GB SSD atleast, gives you more performance aswell. Would still recommend the 750 or if that warranty is a issue for you go with the 850.  Thought that had 5 years. You won't overall notice the performance difference between the 2.

 

Fan's is no biggie as long as it are good ones. The gain from more fans is overall not worth the cost.

 

For CPU cooler recommend the Scythe Fuma. Is more expensive, but it's a silent and very good performing cooler that is also good enough for high end air OCing if you gonna do that in the future. The rpm range for the thing is crazy good and you don't have to pay the Noctua price for this performance.

[deamerz]

5 minutes ago, Gonio said:

1: Go with the MSI gaming pro Carbon then. that has led and the USB implementation is performing as it should vs the non carbon one. Should fit your theme well.

 

2:For the GPU make sure it's the ACX 3.0 version cooler on the EVGA card. Is a very good one and still silent. Agree with the 1080 for 144hz 1440p and doubt you need the 1080Ti.

 

3:CPU is good and usefull for cards like the 1080.

 

4:16 GB RAM is all you need, so would stay on that. But if you want to go 32 GB do it now. RAM could get more expensive comming times according to some market trends + it saves you from the possible issues RAM mixing could give. Those speeds overall have no noticable impact apart form some specific cases, so jsut go with the cheaper, unless price is only marginally more.

 

5: Go with a 250 GB SSD atleast, gives you more performance aswell. Would still recommend the 750 or if that warranty is a issue for you go with the 850.  Thought that had 5 years. You won't overall notice the performance difference between the 2.

 

Fan's is no biggie as long as it are good ones. The gain from more fans is overall not worth the cost.

 

For CPU cooler recommend the Scythe Fuma. Is more expensive, but it's a silent and very good performing cooler that is also good enough for high end air OCing if you gonna do that in the future. The rpm range for the thing is crazy good and you don't have to pay the Noctua price for this performance.

Thank you for your reply!

1. the MSI carbon is 50 usd more than the tomahawk i mentioned above, is there any other benefit than the theme to that motherboard? As I mentioned above, I do not utilize most of the modern features, only thing that matters for me is the performance

2. I didnt write down the whole name, but the gtx 1080 is acx 3.0, full name is EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0, 8GB GDDR5X

4. Unfortunately I do not have another 100 usd to invest into ram atm, but would there be any performance decline or problems if i bought another 2x8gb vengeance at same speed?

5.As of the SSD, since most of you guys recommend 250gb, ill consider it. I will decide when i will be ordering the PC based on the extra cash I will have.

 

CPU cooler - Can anyone else recommend the Scythe Fuma? Will I need it? If I overclock later, I will not push the cpu to its limit, I'd go for like 4,5ghz oc.

 

[Gonio]

Overall if same speeds and latency, most of the times RAM works well if a kit is added later. But RAM does sometimes not play nice with others, even if it's exact same brand and type of kit.

 

For now you don't 'need' the Fuma, but if you would OC later on the real worth comes back to you in way better temps vs the ones you plan to get + lower noise possible. For example in a test with a noise lvl of 30 decibel between the Fuma and the evo 212 it is 10 degree celcius difference. And it's only 10 € more expensive where I live.

[deamerz]

I guess ill just hope the ram works later!

 

And thanks for the CPU cooler suggestion! I checked some reviews and the difference indeed is very big! I will see how much spare cash I will have and if I do, i will surely prioritize the cooler over the ssd upgrade!