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[masterkickass7]

19 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

That is really spare data.

What you need is a graph of your individual CPU Core usage, RAM usage, GPU usage and VRAM usage. Then we can figure out what is maxed out and what needs changing.

You said your GPU sits about 46 degrees, which is good. Make sure none of your system components is overheating.

cpu fluctuates between %77-%93 each core stays at about 73 degrees %85-%94 usage with the ocasional drop in to the mid 70s each core the 2.6ghz holds
about 5gb of the ddr2 is used
gpu1 fluctuates between %35 the spikes back to 90s gpu stays in the 50s in temp

 

[Shahnewaz]

1 hour ago, masterkickass7 said:

cpu fluctuates between %77-%93 each core stays at about 73 degrees %85-%94 usage with the ocasional drop in to the mid 70s each core the 2.6ghz holds
about 5gb of the ddr2 is used
gpu1 fluctuates between %35 the spikes back to 90s gpu stays in the 50s in temp

If you could post a graph of an hour or two long playthrough recording each component usage, that would be great. Your explanation is pretty convoluted unless you can tell me the averages.

I don't need temps or core clocks, they look fine.

The only thing I can catch here is the unusually low GPU usage. Make sure your drivers and GPU BIOS is upto date.

[masterkickass7]

2 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

If you could post a graph of an hour or two long playthrough recording each component usage, that would be great. Your explanation is pretty convoluted unless you can tell me the averages.

I don't need temps or core clocks, they look fine.

The only thing I can catch here is the unusually low GPU usage. Make sure your drivers and GPU BIOS is upto date.

played for a hour this was cpu   each core stays at about 73 degrees %85-%94 usage with the ocasional drop in to the mid 70s 

this was gpu stuck about %50-%60 

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, masterkickass7 said:

played for a hour this was cpu   each core stays at about 73 degrees %85-%94 usage with the ocasional drop in to the mid 70s 

this was gpu stuck about %50-%60 

Please open Precision with the on-screen display. Seeing the trends of the system's components is more valuable in diagnostics. Texture popping is usually due to textures/objects/etc. not being placed in VRAM or system RAM and can account for the low frame-rate.

[Shahnewaz]

1 minute ago, masterkickass7 said:

played for a hour this was cpu   each core stays at about 73 degrees %85-%94 usage with the ocasional drop in to the mid 70s 

this was gpu stuck about %50-%60 

Yeah, looks like your GPU isn't being utilized fully. So something is preventing it from peak utilization.

Before concluding it's a CPU/RAM bottleneck, I wanna make sure your GPU drivers and VBIOS is upto date. And for that matter, all your other drivers and motherboard BIOS.

If you want to do a clean re-install of your GPU drivers, this will help: http://www.wagnardmobile.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=624

[masterkickass7]

4 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

Yeah, looks like your GPU isn't being utilized fully. So something is preventing it from peak utilization.

Before concluding it's a CPU/RAM bottleneck, I wanna make sure your GPU drivers and VBIOS is upto date. And for that matter, all your other drivers and motherboard BIOS.

If you want to do a clean re-install of your GPU drivers, this will help: http://www.wagnardmobile.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=624

Is there a issue that could be seen here link to mobo http://ark.intel.com/products/34689/Intel-Desktop-Board-DG35EC

[Shahnewaz]

2 minutes ago, masterkickass7 said:

Is there a issue that could be seen here link to mobo http://ark.intel.com/products/34689/Intel-Desktop-Board-DG35EC

There are no issues with your motherboard. If you go through the steps I mentioned and still face low GPU usage, it's simply because your system is too old and too weak to fully utilize the RX 460.

[masterkickass7]

52 minutes ago, Shahnewaz said:

There are no issues with your motherboard. If you go through the steps I mentioned and still face low GPU usage, it's simply because your system is too old and too weak to fully utilize the RX 460.

so what am i supposed to tell my friend who paid for these parts

[Shura]

48 minutes ago, masterkickass7 said:

so what am i supposed to tell my friend who paid for these parts

A few things of concern stand out when looking at your situation. The first is that your PC is running windows 10, considering how old it is, did you do a clean install of windows 10 or upgrade to it from a previous version of windows? Second is you mentioned you just bought the RX460, did you properly remove the drivers from the previous Graphics Adapter before installing the new one? and Finally, in one of your posts you had usage data for 2 GPUs, is the previous gpu out of the system or still installed? If its built into the motherboard, make sure that it is not set as the primary video card.

 

If it's not a clean install of windows, I would personally do a clean install, update the drivers and see if the problem is reoccurring. Most people automatically assume its a hardware bottleneck but you could be having bugs and glitches caused by software and outdated drivers too. I see this problem more recently on PCs that automatically upgraded to windows 10.

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, Shura said:

A few things of concern stand out when looking at your situation. The first is that your PC is running windows 10, considering how old it is, did you do a clean install of windows 10 or upgrade to it from a previous version of windows? Second is you mentioned you just bought the RX460, did you properly remove the drivers from the previous Graphics Adapter before installing the new one? and Finally, in one of your posts you had usage data for 2 GPUs, is the previous gpu out of the system or still installed? If its built into the motherboard, make sure that it is not set as the primary video card.

 

If it's not a clean install of windows, I would personally do a clean install, update the drivers and see if the problem is reoccurring. Most people automatically assume its a hardware bottleneck but you could be having bugs and glitches caused by software and outdated drivers too. I see this problem more recently on PCs that automatically upgraded to windows 10.

how would i activate the 460 as main

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, Shura said:

A few things of concern stand out when looking at your situation. The first is that your PC is running windows 10, considering how old it is, did you do a clean install of windows 10 or upgrade to it from a previous version of windows? Second is you mentioned you just bought the RX460, did you properly remove the drivers from the previous Graphics Adapter before installing the new one? and Finally, in one of your posts you had usage data for 2 GPUs, is the previous gpu out of the system or still installed? If its built into the motherboard, make sure that it is not set as the primary video card.

 

If it's not a clean install of windows, I would personally do a clean install, update the drivers and see if the problem is reoccurring. Most people automatically assume its a hardware bottleneck but you could be having bugs and glitches caused by software and outdated drivers too. I see this problem more recently on PCs that automatically upgraded to windows 10.

1 hour ago, masterkickass7 said:

how would i activate the 460 as main

wtf i'm getting 50fps on q8300 now

[masterkickass7]

4 hours ago, ARikozuM said:

Please open Precision with the on-screen display. Seeing the trends of the system's components is more valuable in diagnostics. Texture popping is usually due to textures/objects/etc. not being placed in VRAM or system RAM and can account for the low frame-rate.

[ARikozuM]

Do you also have the second portion of the chart with the CPU metrics? It looks like your GPU is working at it's best but the frame buffer seems to be erratic. Are there any settings that you can lower such as AA?

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

Do you also have the second portion of the chart with the CPU metrics? It looks like your GPU is working at it's best but the frame buffer seems to be erratic. Are there any settings that you can lower such as AA?

i'm getting a 45fps average in gta and 60 in fallout 4 idk it just started working

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, masterkickass7 said:

i'm getting a 45fps average in gta and 60 in fallout 4 idk it just started working

Glad to hear... that it worked? I'd like to figure out why, though, but it's unlikely that we'll be able to reproduce this. If it happens in the future, please gather the data and make a new thread.

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

Glad to hear... that it worked? I'd like to figure out why, though, but it's unlikely that we'll be able to reproduce this. If it happens in the future, please gather the data and make a new thread.

it was a driver issue had to reinstall

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

Glad to hear... that it worked? I'd like to figure out why, though, but it's unlikely that we'll be able to reproduce this. If it happens in the future, please gather the data and make a new thread.

and i saved alot of money almost bought a i3 6100

[ARikozuM]

You may have to change the CPU soon though. Trends would indicate that your CPU has... -2 years left...

[Shahnewaz]

2 hours ago, masterkickass7 said:

so what am i supposed to tell my friend who paid for these parts

That you don't listen.

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, Shahnewaz said:

That you don't listen.

i fixed it re install drivers

[masterkickass7]

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

You may have to change the CPU soon though. Trends would indicate that your CPU has... -2 years left...

in less than 2 years my friend will like pc gaming and probably make a new build

[Shura]

1 hour ago, masterkickass7 said:

in less than 2 years my friend will like pc gaming and probably make a new build

Glad it's working now, Old drivers or corrupted drivers can cause serious performance hits but people usually assume its defective hardware. As I mentioned in my previous post, you should do a clean install before giving the PC back to your friend. Old drivers left over from a previous windows install can cause unexpected issues, this is especially common in windows 10 since windows 10 tends to hold onto a lot of old driver files that are no longer supported in the new OS.

 

Doing a clean install is easy if your PC is already on windows 10, Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC, and on the install wizard, choose the option to do a clean install. It's up to you if you do this or not but if you want the best performance out of the hardware, I strongly suggest you do it. Good Luck.

[masterkickass7]

On 10/12/2016 at 11:33 PM, Shura said:

Glad it's working now, Old drivers or corrupted drivers can cause serious performance hits but people usually assume its defective hardware. As I mentioned in my previous post, you should do a clean install before giving the PC back to your friend. Old drivers left over from a previous windows install can cause unexpected issues, this is especially common in windows 10 since windows 10 tends to hold onto a lot of old driver files that are no longer supported in the new OS.

 

Doing a clean install is easy if your PC is already on windows 10, Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC, and on the install wizard, choose the option to do a clean install. It's up to you if you do this or not but if you want the best performance out of the hardware, I strongly suggest you do it. Good Luck.

would it get rid of the not legitimate windows key

[standout]

theres is a problem with my gpu i tryed overclocking it but before i did i realized my fan was runing at -1 rpm!

[ARikozuM]

17 minutes ago, standout said:

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Please create a thread and we'll be over to help you.