ZEN Processor

[Zaydoon]

In the past months AMD elaborated about their new zen processors I didn't understand any thing , can anyone vertually benchmark it's new zen processor against old ones and of course against intels. Is it worthing to wait for the product weighting the price and performance. Thank you for your time

[manikyath]

benchmarks will arrive once zen (finally) arrives, until then all we can do is speculate.

[Lostlogger]

9 minutes ago, manikyath said:

benchmarks will arrive once zen (finally) arrives, until then all we can do is speculate.

Well they said the 1Q of 2017 so heres hoping but honestly it will be good but i don't think it wil bury Intel what it can do is give more variety and options and hopefully even down some of Intels mid range prices

Meaning outside of leaks which are sometimes not the most reliable ones to listen to we have no banchmarks to speak of

[Coaxialgamer]

Zen is the codename for amd's next architecture after the bulldozer family.  It is a new architecture designed from the ground up.  It will have a traditional core structure and use SMT (bulldozer used CMT). 

 

AMD says It should provide a 40% ipc boost over excavator ( 4th gen bulldozer) at the same power.  They recently showed a blender benchmark where it slightly beat broadwell e clock for clock,  but the specifics of that test are unknown,  therefor it cannot be trusted. 

 

It will use ddr4 and pcie 3.0 and have native support for usb 3.1 and nvme. 

 

It will use the am4 socket.  

Performance is unknown at this point in time,  but speculation puts it anywhere from weaker than haswell to about skylake level. 

 

It will start shipping in q1 2017,  probably at CES. Only the high end 6 and 8  core models will be available at first. 

 

The main problem is that cpu design is much more complex than saying cpu x is 40% better than cpu y at the same clock.  Some architecture perform better on some types of calculations,  regardless of threading.

 

Therefor,   the whole notion of speculating on zen based on amd's claimed ipc is ridiculous,  and we will not know how it performs until it releases.  

[CostcoSamples]

Zen will be incredible. It will be faster than all i7 CPUs and it will only cost $20 for the 12 core chip running at 9. 5 GHz 

[Earnhardt]

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-8-core-4-core-cpus-leaked/

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-vega-11-magnum/

[incarnate]

Magic 8 ball: "ask again later"

[Zaydoon]

Why all the brands insisting on smaller and more power efficient? Why they don't keep their  concentration on performance, some watts gain and few millimeters smaller is not my and I think many interest.

[Zaydoon]

On Saturday, October 08, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Earnhardt said:

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-8-core-4-core-cpus-leaked/

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-vega-11-magnum/

So another burden is the next generation socket $$$

[incarnate]

8 hours ago, Zaydoon said:

Why all the brands insisting on smaller and more power efficient? Why they don't keep their  concentration on performance, some watts gain and few millimeters smaller is not my and I think many interest.

Well mobile matters more and efficiency matters most to mobile. You might not care, but you are in the minority.

 

But there's also the laws of diminishing returns. They could make bigger dies (at smaller processes) and just throw more transitions at the problem, but that would cost them a ton. Doubling the transistors wouldn't double the performance. So it isn't worth the extra cost.