PC build plan.

[FleshWound62]

What do you guys think about my pc build plan. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LctZJV

[xentropa]

No SSD?

 

Edit nvm I can't read apparently.

[Adalhelm]

4 minutes ago, FleshWound62 said:

What do you guys think about my pc build plan. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LctZJV

I dont see anything wrong with this build

[Adalhelm]

Just now, xentropa said:

No SSD?

He has an 850 evo 250gb on the list

[FleshWound62]

Im just not sure about the motherboard.If i should get a cheaper one.

[GDRRiley]

grab a i7 6700k and a asus z170a

[FleshWound62]

Why the i7 6700k?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, FleshWound62 said:

Why the i7 6700k?

less bottleneck

[Quaker]

An i7 is no better than an i5 for gaming.

 

The power supply is a overkill. You only need a 500-550 watt PSU for use with a GTX-1070.

[HKZeroFive]

11 minutes ago, Quaker said:

An i7 is no better than an i5 for gaming.

Uh, no.

[HKZeroFive]

I've played around the build. Ditch the i5 6600K with the expensive motherboard and liquid cooler for a i7 6700K and an air cooler.

 

I've also changed the monitor to a G-Sync one because, trust me on this, it makes a huge difference.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($137.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($93.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($424.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($84.88 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($582.98 @ Newegg) 
Speakers: Bose Companion 2 Series III 0W 2ch Speakers  ($99.00 @ B&H) 
Total: $2109.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-21 11:49 EDT-0400

[Matias_Chambers]

Get a cheaper motherboard and get an i7 6700K. And you don't need more than a 500W PSU. 

[Matias_Chambers]

Oh and I would get the NZXT Kraken X61 instead of the H100i. 

[FleshWound62]

How about this http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HfNL9W

[Serpius]

3 hours ago, FleshWound62 said:

What do you guys think about my pc build plan. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LctZJV

Here is a better overall computer build at a slightly lower total cost.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($93.58 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($339.77 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Maker 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.97 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($115.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: BenQ XL2720Z 27.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($349.00 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Bose Companion 2 Series III 0W 2ch Speakers  ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1909.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-21 14:27 EDT-0400

[Guest]

5 hours ago, FleshWound62 said:

What do you guys think about my pc build plan. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LctZJV

Your monitor is Freesync but you have an Nvidia gpu. Otherwise it looks fine.

 

Also don't take any notice of that spec above (Buzzsaw) as he talks nonsense.

[antondan]

1. As mentioned by lee32 your monitor supports FreeSync and you picked an nvidia GPU.  Sadly even the cheapest 1440p gSync monitors are double the price of the one you selected. 
2. That is quite an expensive motherboard for the chosen CPU/RAM. Maybe you could find a slightly cheaper one that has the same features?  The Asus Z170 PRO could be a nice alternative. Giving you space to upgrade to a 6700k CPU. With the 6700k cpu you could get a cheaper liquid water cooler or even an air cooler (depends on how much you plan to overclock).
3. That PSU is an overkill. You could get a smaller one (550Watts should do), unless you plan to 2 way SLI your gtx 1070 in the future.
4. I know this is a personal preference but I would recommend getting a pair of headphones instead of speakers.  This is not an issue with the build just a suggestion as you can get a pair of really decent ""gaming"" headphones such as the hyperx cloud for less than 100$ and get a better overall experience. 

That's about it, hope this helps.

[Quaker]

23 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

Uh, no.

Uh, yes. Those bar charts don't even have an i5-6600 on them. Only an i5-4690 and an i5-2500K, which are both slower than the i5-6600.

The video only shows a 4-6 average fps difference between the stock clocked units. If you want to spend $100 extra on a CPU to get 6 fps, be my guest.

And then you'd have to take into account the actual OC difference between the particular chips you'd happen to have. In the video, the i7 was OC'd to 4.6GHz, while the i5 was only 4.5, and yet their performance was almost identical. If the situation was reversed and the i7 was 4.5 and the i5 4.6, the i5 would beat the i7.

 

So basically, I stand by my original statement, except to modify it to say that the i7 is "essentially" no better than the i5.  

 

Note also - the video uses a Titan X to eliminate GPU factors. Which would be better - to spend $100 extra on an i7 (for 6 fps) or $100 extra on a GPU?

[HKZeroFive]

12 hours ago, Quaker said:

Uh, yes. Those bar charts don't even have an i5-6600 on them. Only an i5-4690 and an i5-2500K, which are both slower than the i5-6600.

Don't give me that bollocks. The i5 4690K is marginally slower than a i5 6600K so you're not going to see a huge performance gain. Do you really think that a i5 6600K will alleviate the bottleneck to the extent that it will match i7 performance? Hell, even the i5 4690K can't catch up to the older i7 3770K in Overwatch and Fallout 4.

 

Speaking of which, the Digital Foundry video showed a clear difference between the i5 6600K and i7 6700K so it's clear that the statement...

On 9/22/2016 at 1:26 AM, Quaker said:

An i7 is no better than an i5 for gaming.

...is wrong

 

But since you wanted some i5 6600K benchmarks, be my guest:

 

 

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The video only shows a 4-6 average fps difference between the stock clocked units. If you want to spend $100 extra on a CPU to get 6 fps, be my guest.

The video also showed an average difference of 10FPS in GTA V, which extended to 20FPS in certain areas when we compared the stock differences. Why not look at Far Cry 4 where the average difference between the two CPUs at stock was 25FPS? That is, by no means, a small difference.

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And then you'd have to take into account the actual OC difference between the particular chips you'd happen to have. In the video, the i7 was OC'd to 4.6GHz, while the i5 was only 4.5, and yet their performance was almost identical. If the situation was reversed and the i7 was 4.5 and the i5 4.6, the i5 would beat the i7.

Not really. Do you see the Overwatch benchmark? Since the i5 4690K and i7 4770K are at the same clocks and are based on the same architecture, we'll compare that. There is a 52FPS difference which is (in the words of Donald J. Trump) 'huge'.

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So basically, I stand by my original statement, except to modify it to say that the i7 is "essentially" no better than the i5.  

Which is wrong. Next you'll be telling me that an i5 won't bottleneck anything above the GTX 1070 for 1080p 144Hz gaming.

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Note also - the video uses a Titan X to eliminate GPU factors. Which would be better - to spend $100 extra on an i7 (for 6 fps) or $100 extra on a GPU?

That's not the point. Of course I'd rather have a i5 6600K + GTX 1070 combo over a i7 6700K + GTX 1060. But your initial statement was that i7s don't bring any benefits in comparison to i5s, which is flat out wrong and what I aim to disprove. 

 

Let's say you have enough money for a i7 6700K + a GTX 1070. Would you downgrade to a i5 6600K when it will provide you less performance? Probably not. The i7 6700K is a good buy when it doesn't compromise other aspects of your build. Especially since the GTX 1080 doesn't cost $100 more than the GTX 1070.

 

It's also worth noting that the i5 6600K stutters more than the i7 6700K, as said in the Digital Foundry video.

[Quaker]

11 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

  Next you'll be telling me that an i5 won't bottleneck anything above the GTX 1070 for 1080p 144Hz gaming.

I'm not going to bother to get into some long argument about all this. I could, for example, point out that the i7-4690K in your latest charts was clocked at 4.0 Ghz vs 3.5Ghz for the i5-6600K.

This was originally the i5-6600K vs the i7-6700K - which were only 4-6 fps different - not a random bunch of other CPUs

 

In any case, your statement about the i5 "bottlenecking" the GTX-1070, shows me that you don't really know what you're talking about. And I'm not going to bother to explain why.

[HKZeroFive]

10 hours ago, Quaker said:

I'm not going to bother to get into some long argument about all this. I could, for example, point out that the i7-4690K in your latest charts was clocked at 4.0 Ghz vs 3.5Ghz for the i5-6600K.

This was originally the i5-6600K vs the i7-6700K - which were only 4-6 fps different - not a random bunch of other CPUs

I could say the same, with you not bothering to tackle the points I've made above tells me that you're either a) given up because you have no idea what you're talking about or b) simply lazy. Either way, even though you're attempting to make an argument, your inability to respond to the points above ultimately renders it moot.

 

As for the new charts, you've neglected to mention that the similarly clocked 3.5GHz i7 5930K with a lower IPC (because it's a Haswell CPU) beats the newer i5 6600K clocked at the same 3.5GHz by 12-20 FPS, which is no small difference. If you want to argue that it's because of the more cores, don't bother, because we know more cores means jack. Games prefer fewer, faster cores and that is why the i7 6700K is considered the faster gaming CPU around. I've also pointed that the older i7 3770K still beats the newer i5 4690K in the Techspot benchmarks.

 

But you've selectively refused to address the other comments I made above. The i7 6700K at stock saw 10-20FPS more than the i5 6600K in GTA V, and an average of 25FPS in Far Cry 4. This is, by no means, a small difference that you always seem to stress. Especially when we are discussing 1080p 144Hz gaming.

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In any case, your statement about the i5 "bottlenecking" the GTX-1070, shows me that you don't really know what you're talking about. And I'm not going to bother to explain why.

Please do, because it's clear that you also have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Tell me, what sort of evidence do you have to back this up? I've discussed this with various forum members (I'll mention them at your request, but for now I'd like to keep this somewhat hostile conversation between us) who have seen their i5 4690Ks and i5 6600Ks bottleneck (even when overclocked) their GTX 980Tis and GTX 1070s in games such as GTA V and The Witcher 3 at 1080p. This was fixed, however, when they switched to 1440p (because we all know that the higher the resolution, the more GPU-bound you are) or when they upgraded to an i7.

 

Maybe I've failed to mention this enough times, but this chart alone clearly demonstrates that a i5 bottlenecks a GTX 1080: