new build, advice

[catchthefloaty]

okay so i have a parts list. basic requirements are an i5, with a pcie 3.0 slot , and a mid range graphics card.
 

any advice for getting it cheaper?

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QbHcHN

[GDRRiley]

grab a better psu and a 1060

[catchthefloaty]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

grab a better psu and a 1060

"cheaper" was key word.

[Antony Leung]

11 minutes ago, catchthefloaty said:

mid range graphics card

As always. how much money do you want to spend? explain the maximun or the desire number.

 

What graphical settings do you want to play? 4k? 2k? 8k? 1080p?  and the reffresh rate? 144hz? 60?...

 

gaming only? or gaming + professional work like video editing?

 

so many questions. please read the post guideline of build plans. 

[Pcinacan]

I would get the 480 and that psu is just fine 

[DannyRyu]

5 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

grab a better psu and a 1060

Please don't, just stop.

Proper benchmarks of DX12 have to come out before anyone can say if a 1060 is better or the 480 is better

The RX 480 will absolutely DESTROY The 1060 in DOOM (Vulkan) and if its just a matter of time for other games to be optimized for A-Sync shading (DX 12 and Vulkan)

http://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rx-480-vs-gtx-1060-vulkan

 do your own research if you are skeptical.

[JHY]

You can get windows key from kinguin.net less than $30.

[JHY]

Also, do you need dvd writer?

[catchthefloaty]

gaming at 1080p . somewhere around 750 is ideal . but having trouble squeezing out some more value.

[LabRat]

buy 1 stick of ram.

how much is the 470 where you are?

I don't feel the cpu is fast enough. ( 3.5 neighborhood ) what about dropping to last years socket? maybe you can free up a little more money?

what's your real budget?

 

 

[Antony Leung]

1 minute ago, catchthefloaty said:

gaming at 1080p . somewhere around 750 is ideal . but having trouble squeezing out some more value.

ok what refresh rate? 144hz? 120? 60? or "the cinematic experience of" 30Hz?

 

Also do you want to include the Peripherals or monitor? 

 

and last do you want to overclock?

[catchthefloaty]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

ok what refresh rate? 144hz? 120? 60? or "the cinematic experience of" 30Hz?

 

Also do you want to include the Peripherals or monitor? 

 

and last do you want to overclock?

60 hz, willing to overclock for value. considering finding a cpu cooler if i do.

not worried about moniter for this listing. or perihperals.

[Antony Leung]

Just now, catchthefloaty said:

60 hz, willing to overclock for value. considering finding a cpu cooler if i do.

not worried about moniter for this listing. or perihperals.

Sorry i forgot this one too. Do you prefer liquid or air?

[catchthefloaty]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

Sorry i forgot this one too. Do you prefer liquid or air?

air, unless its premaid like a corsair h100 kinda thing.

[WEEEEEE]

Little above your budget, now the question is what do you need the DVD writer for?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($198.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($53.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: *Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($31.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G Video Card  ($226.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.33 @ OutletPC) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer  ($13.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($90.72 @ B&H) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $808.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-18 20:28 EDT-0400

[HKZeroFive]

21 minutes ago, DannyRyu said:

Please don't, just stop.

Proper benchmarks of DX12 have to come out before anyone can say if a 1060 is better or the 480 is better

The RX 480 will absolutely DESTROY The 1060 in DOOM (Vulkan) and if its just a matter of time for other games to be optimized for A-Sync shading (DX 12 and Vulkan)

http://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/rx-480-vs-gtx-1060-vulkan

 do your own research if you are skeptical.

He has a point. You're banking on the possibility of the RX 480 being better on games that haven't even been released yet... it's the better choice to pay more for the games that are out now such as GTA V, The Witcher 3, Overwatch etc. Even then, the GTX 1060 still holds up extremely well in Vulkan and DirectX12, beating or tying with the RX 480 in games such as AotS, The Talos Principle, ROTTR...

 

Most of the gains in DirectX12 and Vulkan are not from a-sync compute... it's from the reduced driver overhead that the new API brings which is why AMD gains quite significantly in games such as DOOM.

 

Putting fanboyism aside, it's clear that the GTX 1060 is objectively the better card at the moment. That may change in the future but is it worth the risk and time? It's why the word 'futureproofing' has been deplored by much of the tech community (that's including Linus by the way); it's ultimately meaningless.

 

@catchthefloaty, here's what I've come up with. Grab Windows off /r/microsoftsofwareswap from s5ean for cheap (don't be concerned about the reliability of it since many users here have used it without problems... some with 20+ builds) and get a better power supply since the EVGA W1 is trash.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($53.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Corsair Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($58.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G Video Card  ($226.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer  ($13.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($35.00 @ MicrosoftSoftwareSwap) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $766.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-18 20:49 EDT-0400

 

[Antony Leung]

This is the best i could make. i know is a little bit over budget but if you remove the HDD it wont be. im pretty sure you may have old hdd around you, you should reuse them. unless you parents or any family have panic to computers.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($227.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($106.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 470 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @Newegg) 
Total: $815.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-18 20:37 EDT-0400

 

The reason of why this and that:

 

CPU: the i5 6600k is the best cpu for a gamer is the top of what you should consider for gaming. using the z170 chipset you can overclock it at whatever you want GHz. ^{sidenote you should cosidered to wait intel 7 gen is supused to come in december or january of the next year.}

MOBO: You shouldn't cheap out the mobo. remember this is the pilar of everything, you should invest more. that's why the Extreme 4 is a good choice with the futureproof capabilitys like the m.2 support, usb type c that converts in everything you want (like ultra fast charging you phone), and supports all displays types. a solid choise IMO.

Cooler: The famous  212 EVO. nothing special, but it get the job done with good temps.

RAM: The mainstream 16GB of ram. more capable of any modern titles of games. again nothing special here.

SSD: 240GB of OCZ TRION 150 with actually more good speeds than the corsair force le. 10MB/s more is 10MB/s more. also with some space for any daily use programs like chrome or favorites games.

HDD: This can be optional  if you can't spend 800$ in the pc. 1TB of storage is good enogh for store anything.

CASE: The zalman is enough for you needs. is not the best case but the price tells, all the story.

PSU: With this you can't cheap out or use any psu. this is the most important part you need to choose carefully that's why i follow the STRMfrmXMN tier list as a law. And the CXM "grey units" are in the tier 3 meaning is not bad or the best but it should be ok.

 

And finally the GPU: The RX 470. thy i did choose this? because it can run most games at 50FPS on ultra, despite it runs the games at that fps you should still consider it because if you want more frames, just low a llittle bit the settings at "high" and you have the magical 60fps in most games. benchmarks here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3104044/components-graphics/amd-radeon-rx-470-review-a-great-graphics-card-with-a-terrible-price.html?page=3

 

 

And my apologies for not saying this before: 

 

 WELLCOME @catchthefloaty to LinusTechTips Forums! (aka LTT forums)

 

[GDRRiley]

12 minutes ago, Antony Leung said:

dam why

 

 WELLCOME @catchthefloaty to LinusTechTips Forums! (aka LTT forums)

 

why a k cpu and a z170 board for a budget build?

[GDRRiley]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhHXkT there.

[Antony Leung]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

why a k cpu and a z170 board for a budget build?

Because he told us he want overclock. that's why.

 

1 hour ago, catchthefloaty said:

60 hz, willing to overclock for value. considering finding a cpu cooler if i do.

not worried about moniter for this listing. or perihperals.

 

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Antony Leung said:

Because he told us he want overclock. that's why.

 

 

he never said that.  ok found it but still you are paying a lot more for ocing. you might as well get a mobo that suports base clock OCing and to it that way

Edited September 19, 2016 by GDRRiley

[Antony Leung]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

he never said that. 

 

 

Do you read the Quote?

1 hour ago, catchthefloaty said:

willing to overclock

[GDRRiley]

1 minute ago, Antony Leung said:

 

Do you read the Quote?

I at first thought that he was referring to the monitor but I  did see it 

[Antony Leung]

What do you think of my option @HKZeroFive ?

[HKZeroFive]

3 minutes ago, Antony Leung said:

What do you think of my option @HKZeroFive ?

It's decent although I'd rather go for a i5 6500 + GTX 1060 6GB combo and have a larger performance gain there.