Which GPU should i chose ?

[Zilar]

Which one is beter ? 

-MSI Radeon RX 470 Gaming X - 4GB GDDR5

-EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC Gaming - 3GB GDDR5

 

Im gonna use this with my i5 4460 and pls tell me if there's any bottlenecking, i know the 480 is better but i dont have enough money for it so chose between those 2 , thanks  

[don_svetlio]

3GB is not enough for anything, not to mention the 3GB 1060 is also slower than the 6GB one due to the cut shaders.

I'd say the 470 due to the VRAM

[Zilar]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

3GB is not enough for anything, not to mention the 3GB 1060 is also slower than the 6GB one due to the cut shaders.

I'd say the 470 due to the VRAM

Maybe, but VRAM doesnt make it better in some cases

[Notional]

Agree with Don. However the 470 also comes in an 8GB version. Might be worth a look, since plenty of games already uses more than 4GB of VRAM.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Zilar said:

Maybe, but VRAM doesnt make it better in some cases

I have 2 machines with 3GB of VRAM - I've been crashing repeatedly due to not enough memory at 1080p - trust me it's not enough for anything

[Zilar]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

Agree with Don. However the 470 also comes in an 8GB version. Might be worth a look, since plenty of games already uses more than 4GB of VRAM.

 

Just now, don_svetlio said:

I have 2 machines with 3GB of VRAM - I've been crashing repeatedly due to not enough memory at 1080p - trust me it's not enough for anything

Ok, Notional, the 8gb is over my budget but tnx anyway

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Zilar said:

 

Ok, Notional, the 8gb is over my budget but tnx anyway

Then get the 4GB

[Notional]

1 minute ago, Zilar said:

Ok, Notional, the 8gb is over my budget but tnx anyway

Go with as much Vram as you can afford then. 6-8GB is normal today. The farther you go under, the bigger texture problems you will get now and in the future. 4GB will give you the second highest texture setting in the demanding AAA games.

[typographie]

5 minutes ago, Zilar said:

i know the 480 is better

The 480 4 GB really isn't that much better than the 470. Out of the box they're within a few frames of each other in most games. If the 470 is a lot cheaper, that's a great deal.

 

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I have 2 machines with 3GB of VRAM - I've been crashing repeatedly due to not enough memory at 1080p - trust me it's not enough for anything

Crashing, you say? I'd expect poor performance or stuttering if you're out of VRAM, but crashing sounds like there might be more to the story.

[Zilar]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

Go with as much Vram as you can afford then. 6-8GB is normal today. The farther you go under, the bigger texture problems you will get now and in the future. 4GB will give you the second highest texture setting in the demanding AAA games.

 

Just now, typographie said:

The 480 4 GB really isn't that much better than the 470. Out of the box they're within a few frames of each other in most games. If the 470 is a lot cheaper, that's a great deal.

 

Crashing, you say? I'd expect poor performance or stuttering if you're out of VRAM, but crashing sounds like there might be more to the story.

 guess im going for the 1060

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

The 480 4 GB really isn't that much better than the 470. Out of the box they're within a few frames of each other in most games. If the 470 is a lot cheaper, that's a great deal.

 

Crashing, you say? I'd expect poor performance or stuttering if you're out of VRAM, but crashing sounds like there might be more to the story.

I get a message that WIndows ran out of memory. I run borderless window

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Zilar said:

 

 guess im going for the 1060

Expect frequent crashing, stuttering and poor performance. As said - 3GB is not enough. There is even a news article on the subject. Check it.

[Zilar]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

Expect frequent crashing, stuttering and poor performance. As said - 3GB is not enough. There is even a news article on the subject. Check it.

pfff chosing the right GPU is such a big struggle

[Notional]

1 minute ago, Zilar said:

 

 guess im going for the 1060

Depends on the pricing of course. But do notice that all but the NVidia sponsored Rise of the Tomb Raider, the DX12 and Vulkan titles all works better on the AMD card. SO it depends on which games you are going to play. The latest 16.9.1 AMD driver lowered the draw calls in DX11, so it gives a performance boost in all DX11 titles as well.

 

1060 might be great right now, but like all NVidia cards, it will be hopelessly obsolete in 1-2 years and should be surpassed by the 470 in pretty much everything. Take a look at AMD 290 vs an Nvidia 780 today. It's outright pathetic.

[xAcid9]

26 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

I get a message that WIndows ran out of memory. I run borderless window

Window ran out of memory = System memory related not VRAM.

 

35 minutes ago, Notional said:

Agree with Don. However the 470 also comes in an 8GB version. Might be worth a look, since plenty of games already uses more than 4GB of VRAM.

I expect "plenty" = >10 so can you list 5?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, xAcid9 said:

Window ran out of memory = System memory related not VRAM.

 

I expect "plenty" = >10 so can you list 5?

it said video memory ._.

[xAcid9]

5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

it said video memory ._.

What? What game is that? 

I've yet to see Window legitly popup not enough video memory error ever.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, xAcid9 said:

What? What game is that? 

I've yet to see Window legitly popup not enough video memory error ever.

Got it on Witcher 3 when I ran at 1440p VSR with everything maxed

[xAcid9]

29 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Got it on Witcher 3 when I ran at 1440p VSR with everything maxed

Didn't even broke 2.9GB even with HD Textures mod + Reshade and that with card that have 6GB VRAM, i recall it barely broke 2GB with my 290x. Vanilla most probably use less VRAM.
Max Hairwork + 8xMSAA.

Did notice the game chug system memory like no tomorrow though, if i didn't set enough system Virtual Memory i probably get not enough memory error.

[Coaxialgamer]

this is more of a case of : more vram vs more horsepower 

[don_svetlio]

5 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Didn't even broke 2.9GB even with HD Textures mod + Reshade and that with card that have 6GB VRAM, i recall it barely broke 2GB with my 290x. Vanilla most probably use less VRAM.
Max Hairwork + 8xMSAA.

Did notice the game chug system memory like no tomorrow though, if i didn't set enough system Virtual Memory i probably get not enough memory error.

As soon as my motherboard is back from RMA, I'll test it out

[Notional]

More than 4GB:

1. Rise of the Tomb Raider
2. Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
3. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst
4. Rainbow Six Siege
5. Shadow of Mordor
6. Doom

These are off the top of my head.. probably more out there, and that number will only grow. Probably this year alone with Watch Dogs 2.