need help for choosing drives and raid card for home server

[FeltyKat]

hey guys iam thinking of building a 24 drive home server running in RAID 5

 

i need help in choosing the drive and raid card

i wanted to know whether there is any difference between 5900 rpm and 7200 rpm drives running in raid 

[defunkt]

Why would you want to use 5900 rpm hard drive at all now?

[ANUPLUCIFERGAMER]

how much storage do you want? and how much in each drive? and of course 7200 rpm! 

[tp95112]

Since your going to have 24 i dont think the rpm matters that much or does it?

[FeltyKat]

how much storage do you want? and how much in each drive? and of course 7200 rpm! 

well i have lot of hd movies and multiple seasons of various tv series

[wpirobotbuilder]

Why would you want to use 5900 rpm hard drive at all now?

The consumer hard drives for NAS applications are all 5400/5900 RPM. Only the WD SE and enterprise grade drives are 7200 RPM.

 

hey guys iam thinking of building a 24 drive home server running in RAID 5

 

i need help in choosing the drive and raid card

i wanted to know whether there is any difference between 5900 rpm and 7200 rpm drives running in raid 

Why 24 drives? Also, how much storage do you need?

 

If you want 24 drives, go with the WD SE, since they're rated for operation in larger groups than the WD Red or Seagate NAS and not quite as expensive as the WD or Seagate enterprise drives.

 

You want a RAID card with 6 internal 8087 ports, which will break out into 24 SATA ports. Anything from Areca, Adaptec, or LSI will be good.

[FeltyKat]

The consumer hard drives for NAS applications are all 5400/5900 RPM. Only the WD SE and enterprise grade drives are 7200 RPM.

 

Why 24 drives? Also, how much storage do you need?

 

If you want 24 drives, go with the WD SE, since they're rated for operation in larger groups than the WD Red or Seagate NAS and not quite as expensive as the WD or Seagate enterprise drives.

 

You want a RAID card with 6 internal 8087 ports, which will break out into 24 SATA ports. Anything from Areca, Adaptec, or LSI will be good.

for the raid car can i use this lsi raid controller http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118112 with this intel port expander http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117207

[wpirobotbuilder]

for the raid car can i use this lsi raid controller http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118112 with this intel port expander http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117207

It only has two 8087 ports. You need six to get 24 drives.

[FeltyKat]

It only has two 8087 ports. You need six to get 24 drives.

but the site say u can use the intel 24 port expander with an raid controller to use the 24 ports on the intel expander card

[wpirobotbuilder]

Let me look into this.

 

EDIT:

 

As long as it's verified to work with that RAID card, it should be fine. I'd go with the 4i version of the card, you'll save some money.

 

@looney, can you verify this?

 

Also, how do these cards communicate, through PCI-E?

[DirkW]

Apparently this controller doesn't support RAID-5... or were you thinking about a software solution?

[FeltyKat]

Apparently this controller doesn't support RAID-5... or were you thinking about a software solution?

then can you recommend another one

[DirkW]

then can you recommend another one

Not much experience with RAID-controllers, but as far as I know, LSI is just fine, but for hardware RAID-5 you'd need a different card.

 

maybe a

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118106

 

for example, if the number of connectors is enough.

 

But I'm no expert, just saw that your original card didn't have RAID-5 capability.

[Craig]

Hi,

 

I am also building a WHS. I thought that the Intel RES2SV240 was the RAID Controller rather then a RAID Expander, so what way would you connect it up?  if it is just a expander then can I just use the Windows Home Server "Software RAID Thingy"??  Or would it be better following the same guidance as above?

 

Thanks

 

 

Planned Specs:

Case: 4u Rackmount - 24 Bays (http://www.xcase.co.uk/24-bay-Hotswap-rackmount-chassis-norco-RPC-4224-p/case-xcase-rm424.htm)

HDD: 24 x 3TB WD RED (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Red-Desktop-Drive/dp/B008JJLW4M/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381962933&sr=1-1&keywords=wd+red+3tb)

RAID Controller: INTEL RES2SV240 RAID Controller (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-RES2SV240-RAID-Controller/dp/B0042NLUVE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381916118&sr=8-1&keywords=RES2SV240#productDetails) 

CPU: Intel i5 4570 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I54570-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CV3E3WK/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381963205&sr=1-5&keywords=intel+i5)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB   http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D2LGRPG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maximus-VI-Motherboard-Express-Extreme/dp/B00D41V69Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381963243&sr=1-1&keywords=rog+hero)

Power Supply: Corsair AX1200 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-AX1200-Professional-Series-Modular/dp/B003QP4188/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381963296&sr=1-2&keywords=Corsair+AX1200)

[Eric1024]

There's a 24 port controller from adaptec that will probably suit your needs. That intel port expander won't be enough. it only has 5 upstream ports, meaning you can only connect 20 drives to it. You could get a single 8 port raid card and two expanders, but I think a 24 port card would be cheaper at that point.

 

Are you planning on running hardware or software raid?

[Eric1024]

Hi,

 

I am also building a WHS. I thought that the Intel RES2SV240 was the RAID Controller rather then a RAID Expander, so what way would you connect it up?  if it is just a expander then can I just use the Windows Home Server "Software RAID Thingy"??  Or would it be better following the same guidance as above?

 

Thanks

 

 

Planned Specs:

Case: 4u Rackmount - 24 Bays (http://www.xcase.co.uk/24-bay-Hotswap-rackmount-chassis-norco-RPC-4224-p/case-xcase-rm424.htm)

HDD: 24 x 3TB WD RED (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Red-Desktop-Drive/dp/B008JJLW4M/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381962933&sr=1-1&keywords=wd+red+3tb)

RAID Controller: INTEL RES2SV240 RAID Controller (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-RES2SV240-RAID-Controller/dp/B0042NLUVE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381916118&sr=8-1&keywords=RES2SV240#productDetails) 

CPU: Intel i5 4570 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I54570-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CV3E3WK/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381963205&sr=1-5&keywords=intel+i5)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB   http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D2LGRPG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maximus-VI-Motherboard-Express-Extreme/dp/B00D41V69Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381963243&sr=1-1&keywords=rog+hero)

Power Supply: Corsair AX1200 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-AX1200-Professional-Series-Modular/dp/B003QP4188/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1381963296&sr=1-2&keywords=Corsair+AX1200)

That intel port expander does nothing by itself. The PCIe connector that it has is only for getting power, it doesn't actually transmit any data.

 

Refer to my comment above, but if you want to run 24 drives you would need an 8 port controller (2 sff 8087 connectors or the like) and 2 of those intel expanders, or a 24 port controller.

[Craig]

That intel port expander does nothing by itself. The PCIe connector that it has is only for getting power, it doesn't actually transmit any data.

 

Refer to my comment above, but if you want to run 24 drives you would need an 8 port controller (2 sff 8087 connectors or the like) and 2 of those intel expanders, or a 24 port controller.

 

 

I would want to do Hardware RAID, I am new to all this Hardware RAID stuff never had more then 5 HDD in a Server, is there any cards from Adaptec that you would suggest Eric, for 24 port RAID. 

 

Thanks