First Build

[Bingbing10]

Sorry I new I recently made a post about it but this will be my final one as I am getting it in the next few days .

My budget is 900 pound ( no ssd needed check sig) no monitor or monitor or OS or mouse . Main games will be battlefield 4 and 3 watch dogs ( when it comes out I heard it has been delayed which is a bummer) general use.

I was thinking of going for a i7 4770k as I won't be looking to upgrade this PC (CPU at least for 3-4 years ) and since the hyper threading has seen to make a difference in bf4 shows that more games will utilise its 8threads . Thanks guys

Edit : decided the fx 8350 will be better

[Venomz1337]

Good luck getting a good PC for 900 quid including a 4770k (I know it can be done but I'm just too damn lazy right now )

 

EDIT:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£245.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£109.99 @ Novatech) 

Memory:  Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£38.20 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.99 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card:  MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  (£239.76 @ Dabs) 

Case:  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.26 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£95.70 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Total: £876.87

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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Throw in either a couple of more fans or another 8GB's of RAM.

[Bingbing10]

Ahha , well I don't need a ssd cos already got one so that will save me 100 but I'm just seeing

Good luck getting a good PC for 900 quid including a 4770k (I know it can be done but I'm just too damn lazy right now )

[lachyman]

Here is my suggestion, I'd wait with the GPU to see if you can afford the R9 290, it should be 5% faster than GTX780 for 400 pounds:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (£106.79 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Be Quiet DARK ROCK 2 57.9 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£48.89 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£102.98 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory:  Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£38.20 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£63.37 @ CCL Computers) 

Video Card:  XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  (£247.62 @ Dabs) 

Case:  Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.00 @ Aria PC) 

Power Supply:  Be Quiet POWER ZONE 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£114.99 @ Ebuyer) 

Total: £811.84

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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[ViruZ_HUN]

well. BF4 is AMD Optimazed why not look at a AMD Fx8350?

 

but 4770k will be a good choice to but for 900 pounds a 4770k build is possible but the other stuff need to be weaker becuze of the CPUs price. i would recommend a fx8350 build for that amount of money.

 

and fx8350 is great to for a 2-3-4 another years specially if u OC the hell out of it to 5 ghz...

 

but its your choice:)

[Bingbing10]

Here is my suggestion, I'd wait with the GPU to see if you can afford the R9 290, it should be 5% faster than GTX780 for 400 pounds:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (£106.79 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Be Quiet DARK ROCK 2 57.9 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£48.89 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£102.98 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory:  Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£38.20 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£63.37 @ CCL Computers) 

Video Card:  XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  (£247.62 @ Dabs) 

Case:  Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.00 @ Aria PC) 

Power Supply:  Be Quiet POWER ZONE 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£114.99 @ Ebuyer) 

Total: £811.84

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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I don't think will be able to afford a gpu that is 400 pound maybe 350 but I'm only 16 so at least it will give me something to update to plus I will only be playing at 1080p as 1440p gaming is to much for me ATM

[lachyman]

I don't think will be able to afford a gpu that is 400 pound maybe 350 but I'm only 16 so at least it will give me something to update to plus I will only be playing at 1080p as 1440p gaming is to much for me ATM

If you can't afford it get the 280X and maybe bump up to FX8350? Thing overclocks like a beast, you may want to get a Dark Rock Pro 2 or AiO as well if you want to use it at it's full potential above 4.5Ghz. Otherwise get the FX8320 and the Dark Rock 2, no point in getting higher binned CPU if you aren't into OC that much. 

[Kiwiandapple]

The i7 and it's hyperthreading ability is not something game developers are looking at. It's not made for games to run better. If you are really worried about the future with the amount off cores, then you should go AMD. Such as this build.

 

If you really want intel, and I personally like this alot more just simply based on the fact that intel their boards are alot more awesome.  

 

Edit: I assumed you are an AMD fan so I tried to go with a red color scheme, if you don't like that - blue/green are 2 simple options. Other color's are a little more tough. 

[ciprian97pop]

I don't think will be able to afford a gpu that is 400 pound maybe 350 but I'm only 16 so at least it will give me something to update to plus I will only be playing at 1080p as 1440p gaming is to much for me ATM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£245.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Seidon 120M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£42.14 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Motherboard:  Asus Z87M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£98.24 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Memory:  Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£38.20 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.95 @ CCL Computers) 

Video Card:  Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  (£235.68 @ Dabs) 

Case:  BitFenix Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£85.45 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 

Power Supply:  SeaSonic M12II 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£88.50 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Total: £879.15

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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MicroATX

[Bingbing10]

The i7 and it's hyperthreading ability is not something game developers are looking at. It's not made for games to run better. If you are really worried about the future with the amount off cores, then you should go AMD. Such as this build.

 

If you really want intel, and I personally like this alot more just simply based on the fact that intel their boards are alot more awesome.

I just don't really like the amd 990fx boards compared to the z87 in my price range and will PCI 2.0 reduce cf capabilities ?

[ciprian97pop]

The i7 and it's hyperthreading ability is not something game developers are looking at. It's not made for games to run better. If you are really worried about the future with the amount off cores, then you should go AMD. Such as this build.

 

If you really want intel, and I personally like this alot more just simply based on the fact that intel their boards are alot more awesome.  

why that fancy ram?

[Bingbing10]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£245.99 @ Aria PC) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Seidon 120M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£42.14 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Motherboard:  Asus Z87M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£98.24 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Memory:  Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£38.20 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.95 @ CCL Computers) 

Video Card:  Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  (£235.68 @ Dabs) 

Case:  BitFenix Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£85.45 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 

Power Supply:  SeaSonic M12II 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£88.50 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Total: £879.15

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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MicroATX

So would you say to go for the amd fx8350 over the i7 , but even though I then have more money to spend on the gpu there is a big jump between the 7970 and the next best gpu ?

[Kiwiandapple]

I just don't really like the amd 990fx boards compared to the z87 in my price range and will PCI 2.0 reduce cf capabilities ?

 

I agree on that fact that you prefer the Z87 boards over the 990fx. I personally am on the same boat. But the AMD FX8350 has 8 cores. Wich the intel one does not, and won't ever have. Hypertreading won't help with that. In some games the i5 beats the i7 in other games it's the other way around. But it's only by a margin off a few frames. Wich you won't really notice. And no PCI-E 2.0 is fine for CF. Even the R9-290x if I remember correctly.

 

why that fancy ram?

 

Pure asthethics. (yeey spelling) I was able to fit it into the budget. I suppose you could go with the Mushkin blackline and maybe try to fit in an H100i, but I doub't he will OC that high (over 4,5) to need that. The AMD card get's insanely hot so having the H100i there is sort off a something you want. 

 

So would you say to go for the amd fx8350 over the i7 , but even though I then have more money to spend on the gpu there is a big jump between the 7970 and the next best gpu ?

 

Basicly the next up in GPU is the GTX780 or R9-290x. The 280x and 7970 are very close together. 

[Bingbing10]

I agree on that fact that you prefer the Z87 boards over the 990fx. I personally am on the same boat. But the AMD FX8350 has 8 cores. Wich the intel one does not, and won't ever have. Hypertreading won't help with that. In some games the i5 beats the i7 in other games it's the other way around. But it's only by a margin off a few frames. Wich you won't really notice. And no PCI-E 2.0 is fine for CF. Even the R9-290x if I remember correctly.

 

 

Pure asthethics. (yeey spelling) I was able to fit it into the budget. I suppose you could go with the Mushkin blackline and maybe try to fit in an H100i, but I doub't he will OC that high (over 4,5) to need that. The AMD card get's insanely hot so having the H100i there is sort off a something you want. 

 

 

Basicly the next up in GPU is the GTX780 or R9-290x. The 280x and 7970 are very close together.

So I should go for the 8350 but like I said I can't put that saved money into a better gpu as the margin is to big

[Kiwiandapple]

So I should go for the 8350 but like I said I can't put that saved money into a better gpu as the margin is to big

 

Nobody really knows what the future will hold up. But the hints are indeed going towards more then 4 cores. Since the new consoles are with 8 cores. (not sure if games take advantage off it yet!) 

I mean, even if you don't have 8 cores, the games will still run fine - depending on your other hardware. My system (in sig) runs BF4 at high settings (not ultra) in 1080p around 50 frames. And only slightly OC'd the GPU. No OC on CPU atm. (even when running 2 other games, listening to the wan show + other music and streaming it. I still keep it about 40 frames)

 

So, it all really depends how the games will be made, and frankly not a whole lot off people know. 

 

For the saved money, I would suggest to grab a sound card or a DAC. Because the AMD boards don't have that awesome sound quality that Z87 boards do have, this will be something nice if you like a nice quality sound. 

[Bingbing10]

Nobody really knows what the future will hold up. But the hints are indeed going towards more then 4 cores. Since the new consoles are with 8 cores. (not sure if games take advantage off it yet!) 

I mean, even if you don't have 8 cores, the games will still run fine - depending on your other hardware. My system (in sig) runs BF4 at high settings (not ultra) in 1080p around 50 frames. And only slightly OC'd the GPU. No OC on CPU atm. (even when running 2 other games, listening to the wan show + other music and streaming it. I still keep it about 40 frames)

 

So, it all really depends how the games will be made, and frankly not a whole lot off people know. 

 

For the saved money, I would suggest to grab a sound card or a DAC. Because the AMD boards don't have that awesome sound quality that Z87 boards do have, this will be something nice if you like a nice quality sound.

So go for 8350 plus 280x asus dcu 2

[Kiwiandapple]

So go for 8350 plus 280x asus dcu 2

 

The Asus or Sapphire Toxic are the 2 'winning' cards in the 280x line as far as reviews go. I personally always lean more towards Asus, because well - they make good stuff. But the Sapphire card isn't bad either! Up to you. 

[Bingbing10]

The Asus or Sapphire Toxic are the 2 'winning' cards in the 280x line as far as reviews go. I personally always lean more towards Asus, because well - they make good stuff. But the Sapphire card isn't bad either! Up to you.

Think ill be going down the asus dcu 2 because that card is beautiful

[Kiwiandapple]

Yeah, can't really say much against that. Aside from the fact. You don't really see much off that card. Once it's build into the rig. But still, a nice card!

[Bingbing10]

Yeah, can't really say much against that. Aside from the fact. You don't really see much off that card. Once it's build into the rig. But still, a nice card!

So what do you think of my revised build .

Amd fx 8350

Corsair 750 w modular psu

Asus r9 280x dcu 2

Corsair 2x 4gb 1600 MHz ram

Msi 990fx gd80

1tb western digital blue hdd

300 mb pci wifi card

Cooler master seidon 120

Z11 plus case

Price 850 pounds

[Kiwiandapple]

So what do you think of my revised build .

 

750W is a little close, once you start to OC the CPU and put 2 OC'd GPUs with them, it will be pretty close. I would grab a Seagate drive, they are more quiet. I don't know why you picked that motherboard, to match the case or something? 

I would still say grab the UD3 board and the fractal case. I don't know how well zalman makes their cases, but.. well it's personal prefernce I suppose. Make sure you buy aftermarket fans, stock fans are horrible - as I suggested the Cooler Master Sickleflows are awesome for their price. Honestly, it's amazing. 

[Bingbing10]

750W is a little close, once you start to OC the CPU and put 2 OC'd GPUs with them, it will be pretty close. I would grab a Seagate drive, they are more quiet. I don't know why you picked that motherboard, to match the case or something? 

I would still say grab the UD3 board and the fractal case. I don't know how well zalman makes their cases, but.. well it's personal prefernce I suppose. Make sure you buy aftermarket fans, stock fans are horrible - as I suggested the Cooler Master Sickleflows are awesome for their price. Honestly, it's amazing.

Yeh the case I'm not sure on which one to go for yet , plus I'm going for a blue colour scheme ( even tho the asus is read and black it only has a little red )

[WoodenMarker]

Yeh the case I'm not sure on which one to go for yet , plus I'm going for a blue colour scheme ( even tho the asus is read and black it only has a little red )

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