2k Work Laptop

[ChileanFox]

My dad is flying to the US this week and he wants to buy a new work related laptop, I had a hard time trying to talk my dad into going for the Lenovo p50 instead of the other weaker slim models, he wants to go for this Asus which has an i7, lots of HDD , SSD and a 4k monitor, it doesnt look bad but the p50's Xeon is better so i managed to convince him otherwise, I went it to the page to choose the model parts but i have a doubt about the various SSD options, specially if I should pick NVME, plus there are plenty of different parts to choose from for the laptop, including how much RAM, touch or non touch screen, 1080p or 4k, etc, . please help me pick the best parts for him

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/cart.workflow:ShowCart2

Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1505M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.70GHz)
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
Operating System Language: Windows 10 Home 64 English
Display: 15.6 FHD(1920x1080) IPS Non-Touch
Memory: 16GB DDR4-2133MHz SODIMM
Graphic Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB
Base: P50 NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB,Intel Xeon E3-1505M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.7 GHz)
Color Sensor: With Color Sensor
Camera: 720p HD Camera with Microphone
Keyboard: Backlit Keyboard with Number Pad - English
Pointing Device: 3+3BCP, Fingerprint Reader,Color Sensor
Security Features: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Security Chip: Software TPM Enabled
First Hard Disk Drive: 500GB HD 7200RPM
First Solid State Drive / Second Hard Disk Drive: 256GB SSD SATA3 OPAL2.0
Total Hard Drive Capacity: 756GB
Power Cord: 170W AC Adapter - US(2pin)
Battery: 6 Cell Li-Polymer Battery 90Wh
Wireless: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC(2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro
Display Panel: 15.6" FHD(1920x1080),no Touch,2D Camera,with Mic,with Color Sensor,with WLAN and WWAN antenna
Language Pack: Publication - English
Warranty: 1 Year Depot or Carry-in
Pointing device: ThinkPad Laser Bluetooth Mouse

So far thats about 2100 USD, its just above his budget so he is willing to spend it, i told him that its better to get an external drive instead of the 500gb HDD included in the page. like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291842292217

Another important thing to consider is that in my country we use 220v power outlets, so is that going to be an issue if he tries to charge the laptpop using a 110AC watt adapter? I hope the adapter works on 220v

I also had the option to add this:
Integrated Mobile Broadband: Qualcomm Snapdragon X7 LTE-A (Sierra Wireless EM7455)
but i dont know whats it for, maybe he doesnt even need it, i think the Wireless is enough to go online, is it really necessary?

Thanks in advance

[The_Denks]

13 minutes ago, foxslink said:

My dad is flying to the US this week and he wants to buy a new work related laptop, I had a hard time trying to talk my dad into going for the Lenovo p50 instead of the other weaker slim models, he wants to go for this Asus which has an i7, lots of HDD , SSD and a 4k monitor, it doesnt look bad but the p50's Xeon is better so i managed to convince him otherwise, I went it to the page to choose the model parts but i have a doubt about the various SSD options, specially if I should pick NVME, plus there are plenty of different parts to choose from for the laptop, including how much RAM, touch or non touch screen, 1080p or 4k, etc, . please help me pick the best parts for him

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/cart.workflow:ShowCart2

Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1505M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.70GHz)
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
Operating System Language: Windows 10 Home 64 English
Display: 15.6 FHD(1920x1080) IPS Non-Touch
Memory: 16GB DDR4-2133MHz SODIMM
Graphic Card: NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB
Base: P50 NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB,Intel Xeon E3-1505M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.7 GHz)
Color Sensor: With Color Sensor
Camera: 720p HD Camera with Microphone
Keyboard: Backlit Keyboard with Number Pad - English
Pointing Device: 3+3BCP, Fingerprint Reader,Color Sensor
Security Features: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Security Chip: Software TPM Enabled
First Hard Disk Drive: 500GB HD 7200RPM
First Solid State Drive / Second Hard Disk Drive: 256GB SSD SATA3 OPAL2.0
Total Hard Drive Capacity: 756GB
Power Cord: 170W AC Adapter - US(2pin)
Battery: 6 Cell Li-Polymer Battery 90Wh
Wireless: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC(2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1 vPro
Display Panel: 15.6" FHD(1920x1080),no Touch,2D Camera,with Mic,with Color Sensor,with WLAN and WWAN antenna
Language Pack: Publication - English
Warranty: 1 Year Depot or Carry-in
Pointing device: ThinkPad Laser Bluetooth Mouse

So far thats about 2100 USD, its just above his budget so he is willing to spend it, i told him that its better to get an external drive instead of the 500gb HDD included in the page. like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291842292217

Another important thing to consider is that in my country we use 220v power outlets, so is that going to be an issue if he tries to charge the laptpop using a 110AC watt adapter? I hope the adapter works on 220v

I also had the option to add this:
Integrated Mobile Broadband: Qualcomm Snapdragon X7 LTE-A (Sierra Wireless EM7455)
but i dont know whats it for, maybe he doesnt even need it, i think the Wireless is enough to go online, is it really necessary?

Thanks in advance

I recommend this instead.

I have this model, and its the best laptop ive ever used (for general purpose use with light gaming), and ive owned the Blade 2014 Edition

 

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon-4/?sb=:00000025:00003D8A:

 

I would recommend getting the 512GB PCI-e NVMe SDD.

I have the SATA one, but NVMe is better

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, foxslink said:

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Great laptop choice. Before you purchase. What is your dad doing with that laptop? It's a tier-1 workstation, but does he really need it? or just a regular business laptop?

 

If your dad does need a quadro card for highly specified applications usages, then I would say the following changes to that setup (it's pretty damn good already): 

Change the CPU to i7-6820HQ: I see you aren't using any ECC ram or professional Windows so you can't take advatnage of the Xeon anyway. Save money and reallocate it elsewhere

Get the 3k non-touch display: the workstation is big enough that it's not really comfortable to use touch, and the 3k screen offers so much more real estate on the screen to work with

Change the storage: Do you need NVME? Unless you're moving LARGE amounts of files to and from the system consistently there is no point in grabbing one. Sata3 is sufficent. Grab the 512 SATA3 ssd. If you need more storage grab the 1tb ssd. 

 

Everything else is good.

[Dackzy]

Keep him away from the Asus.

If he does need the quadro then do what Pendragon said, if he doesn't get a T460s, it is the top of the top, when we talk normal business class laptops and I think by now everyone knows how insane ThinkPads are build and how good the keyboard are on them.

[ChileanFox]

Ok, he is not using CAD or too many graphic demanding apps, he just wants the top of the line to work as fast as possible, specially when having lots of windows open, big excel files and moving stuff around , and he also need a lot of storage. Are SSD Nvme really necessary?
In my country's forum they told me Lenovo has worse support here than Dell, so that could be a bonus in favor to Dell, i dont really think my dad needs a Xeon , much less a very high power GPU like the Quadro, but i cant choose another GPU on the customize page.
How much downgrade would there be if goes for a Dell like Latitude 7000 or something similar? Ive read the new XPS is bullshit compared to last model,  the good thing about the Lenovo p50 its the battery life and the solid build, if it were to fall it would resist more than the dells. Considering this what do you think is best suited for him?
http://i.imgur.com/9D0xAnG.png
thanks in advance

[Pendragon]

2 hours ago, foxslink said:

Ok, he is not using CAD or too many graphic demanding apps, he just wants the top of the line to work as fast as possible, specially when having lots of windows open, big excel files and moving stuff around , and he also need a lot of storage

How big are the excel files. Because there's a difference. If you're only managing a couple hundred lines, a ULV will be fine. If you manage a couple million lines all with functions and macros stacked thoughout, or using slightly advanced things like using vlookup to scan through a million lines or so, you'll want a quad core. 

 

If it's not alot, Lenovo T460s or Dell E7470 is the top of the line for work. Get it. It's great.

If it's alot, you have some more options here, if he wants small, get the T460p is good. Has a light dGPU in case there's some workloads that requires CUDA acceleration. Another excellent choice is E5470 (i7-6820HQ), is great for working on millions of computations at once. 

 

What you have selected is pretty good too, but the E5570 is alot heavier and bigger than the E5470 due to the need to stuff a dGPU in there. Does he need a numberpad? That changes everything. 

 

You don't need the P50. 

[ChileanFox]

On 24-08-2016 at 9:17 PM, Pendragon said:

How big are the excel files. Because there's a difference. If you're only managing a couple hundred lines, a ULV will be fine. If you manage a couple million lines all with functions and macros stacked thoughout, or using slightly advanced things like using vlookup to scan through a million lines or so, you'll want a quad core. 

 

If it's not alot, Lenovo T460s or Dell E7470 is the top of the line for work. Get it. It's great.

If it's alot, you have some more options here, if he wants small, get the T460p is good. Has a light dGPU in case there's some workloads that requires CUDA acceleration. Another excellent choice is E5470 (i7-6820HQ), is great for working on millions of computations at once. 

 

What you have selected is pretty good too, but the E5570 is alot heavier and bigger than the E5470 due to the need to stuff a dGPU in there. Does he need a numberpad? That changes everything. 

 

You don't need the P50. 

Ok im back, he is not using huge excel files but he needs to process work as fast as possible when using these files and browsing. He also wants a 15inch screen monitor, not less or more, and that T460 is 14'', the dell E7470 also has a small screen so that rules these one out, he doesnt need a numpad. The only good option you mentioned for him is E5570, cuz its 15 inch
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-e5570-laptop/pd?oc=cto04ue557015us&model_id=latitude-e5570-laptop

it starts at 1000 bucks soill try to find it in the Dell outlet.
Why do you think he doesnt need a p50? i think thats a solid choice cuz its powerful, has long battery and doesnt break easy when moving around, only con it has would be the weight. Ive found some good options in Lenovo's outlet, starting at $1000, with these specs:

 

Condition

Refurbished

Processor

Intel® Core™ i7-6820HQ Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)

OS

Windows 10 Home 64 - English

Graphics

NVIDIA Quadro M1000M

Memory

16GB DDR4 2133 SoDIMM Memory

Display

15.6" FHD (1920x1080), anti-glare, LED backlight, IPS w/HD 720p Camera

Pointing device

UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader

Hard Drive

256 GB Micro Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3

Optical Drive

No Optical Included

Battery

6 cell Lithium Polymer (90WHr)

Network Card

No WWAN Supported

Bluetooth

Bluetooth

WWAN

Intel Wireless-AC 8260 Bluetooth Version 4.0

Finger Print Reader

Integrated Fingerprint Reader

Warranty

1 Year Standard Depot Warranty

Form Factor

Laptop - Black

thanks for your feedback

[Dackzy]

13 minutes ago, foxslink said:

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Does he use any programs that need a quadro?

[ChileanFox]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

Does he use any programs that need a quadro?

Not really , he doesnt really need a graphics card, apart from viewing online TV there shouldnt be a need for a professional GPU. They recommended me this laptop too, is a bit expensive considering what it has, dont you agree? https://www.amazon.com/Eluktronics-Business-i7-6700T-Professional-SuperMulti/dp/B01C2N285M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1472185322&sr=1-1&keywords=n350dw

[Dackzy]

13 minutes ago, foxslink said:

Not really , he doesnt really need a graphics card, apart from viewing online TV there shouldnt be a need for a professional GPU. They recommended me this laptop too, is a bit expensive considering what it has, dont you agree? https://www.amazon.com/Eluktronics-Business-i7-6700T-Professional-SuperMulti/dp/B01C2N285M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1472185322&sr=1-1&keywords=n350dw

@Pendragon Link that laptop you love so much from dell

[Pendragon]

2 hours ago, Dackzy said:

@Pendragon Link that laptop you love so much from dell

That laptop is 14in ): It's the E5470. 

 

I think for a 1000, what the OP has picked up on the P50 is quite good. Albeit a bit big and heavy.

[Dackzy]

6 hours ago, Pendragon said:

That laptop is 14in ): It's the E5470. 

 

I think for a 1000, what the OP has picked up on the P50 is quite good. Albeit a bit big and heavy.

true, but the P50 has a quadro and if his dad is not going to use it then it is a not stupid to pay for it IMO. The P50 is a really nice laptop and I am sure that his dad would love it, but he also pays for the quadro.

[ChileanFox]

what about these dell? they have 15'' and similar specs
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/SecondaryInventorySearch.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dfb&cs=28&key=MEe8qbZL8CI2z1yXsE7HVd9pwyZZYKUE&puid=31409e0a

 

I have a new Lenovo Favorite now, which doesnt have Quadro, what do you think of it compared to p50?
http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/itemdetails/R90KTQ30-20FHCTO1WW/445?__followRobots=true&Code=R90KTQ30-20FHCTO1WW

[Pendragon]

2 hours ago, foxslink said:

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Can't see outlet links. They're subject to change all the time. Just list specs and model. 

[Dackzy]

2 hours ago, foxslink said:

I have a new Lenovo Favorite now, which doesnt have Quadro, what do you think of it compared to p50?
http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/itemdetails/R90KTQ30-20FHCTO1WW/445?__followRobots=true&Code=R90KTQ30-20FHCTO1WW

That is a dual core CPU, not quad core, still great for word and watching movies, but it is not as powerful as the P50, it is still well build with a great keyboard.

 

I cannot see the dell one

[ChileanFox]

Can i add a GPU in the thinkpad T560 ?

Ok, the link is a Latitude E5570 Laptop at $1,219.00

• Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6600U Processor (Dual Core, up to 3.40 GHz, 4M Cache, 15W )
• Windows 10 Pro
• 512GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive
• 16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz DDR4 Memory
• 15.6 Inch FHD (1920x1080) Touch LCD with Camera (WiGiG compatible)
• AMD Radeon R7 M360
• Dell Outlet Latitude E5570 Laptop

what about these zen books? they recommended me those on a Chilean forum i dont really like them they look cheap
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-15-15-6-Inch-i7-6700HQ/dp/B019PB6X78/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&dpID=41q3ssahydL&dpPl=1&keywords=dell xps 15&pi=SX200_QL40&qid=1472667812&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/ZenBook-UX501VW-Touchscreen-i7-6700HQ-Thunderbolt/dp/B01CQRNBJG/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&dpID=41oX-%2BX%2BHIL&dpPl=1&keywords=zenbook&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&qid=1472667668&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_4&sr=8-4

 

[ChileanFox]

guys we bought a P50 !!  It doenst come with SSD so can you help me choose one? ,  how can I know if the SSD can be installed on his new workstation?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/p-series/p50/
Thanks for your help

• Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ Processor(6M Cache, up to 3.50 GHz)
• Windows 10 Home Premium 64 - English
• 15.6" FHD (1920x1080), anti-glare, LED backlight, IPS w/HD 720p Camera
• NVIDIA Quadro M1000M
• 16GB DDR4 2133 SoDIMM Memory
• 500GB, 7200RPM Serial ATA 2.5" Hard Drive
• No Optical Included
• Integrated Wireless Wide Area Network upgradable
• Bluetooth
• 1 Year Standard Depot Warranty
• UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
• 6 cell Lithium Polymer (90WHr)

[Pendragon]

Grab any M2 SATA drive like the 850 EVO m2. 

[ChileanFox]

Ok , but is the PRO series worth for twice the cost?

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-PRO-Internal-MZ-V5P512BW/dp/B01639694M/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1472775829&sr=8-8&keywords=850+EVO+m2

 

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-Internal-MZ-N5E500BW/dp/B00TGIW1XG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472775829&sr=8-1&keywords=850+EVO+m2

[Dackzy]

5 hours ago, foxslink said:

Ok , but is the PRO series worth for twice the cost?

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-PRO-Internal-MZ-V5P512BW/dp/B01639694M/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1472775829&sr=8-8&keywords=850+EVO+m2

 

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-Internal-MZ-N5E500BW/dp/B00TGIW1XG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472775829&sr=8-1&keywords=850+EVO+m2

does he load a lot of files that are like 5gb and up? if yes then I would say that it is worth it, if not, then not really

[ChileanFox]

ok in the end he didnt buy SSD, he said hell get one on another trip, gracias amigos