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TA4LIFE

1. Budget & Location

Budget: $1900 CAD

Location: Canada

2. Aim

1080p max settings high performance monster of a computer that can do a little bit of video editing on the side.

3. Monitors

Plan on using 2 monitors

4. Peripherals

no peripherals needed

5. Why are you upgrading?

Currently using an old laptop that it not performing to my wants and needs so I might as well build my first desktop and have some fun

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pJjxcc

 

Link about brings you to the pcpartpicker website where i have planned out the parts I want to get. Please let me know what you think and give me feedback and tips for this build. For those who will ask me why i took the k and ftw it is because I do plan on overclocking this computer. I am trying to keep a red and black look to the computer so any changes to the parts please try and keep it red and black or if you really feel up for a change in color then you can try and change it to what you want. Thank you

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Just now, frozeNNN said:

6600k will bottleneck 1070 on 1080p

What will be the max fps? where does it cap out at?

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Just now, TA4life said:

What will be the max fps? where does it cap out at?

That can answer only the person who has exact same build and plays exact same games as you are going to play. Check YouTube,maybe you will find some better informations about performance..

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I made a few mods:

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($397.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($37.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($219.98 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.95 @ shopRBC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($599.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($102.50 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($24.95 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($113.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1864.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-19 11:19 EDT-0400
 
Basically I kept the Z170 so you can have the option to upgrade to an unlocked kaby lake but the non k 6700 it's still a 4.0ghz turbo boost with hyperthreading which should work out better than the 6600k specially since we're saving the cost of an AIO cooler (You can even ditch the Evo the 6700 it's only 65watts tdp non overclockable but it looks nice and you have it in case you get a kaby lake later)
 
Also that Corsair case is too expensive for what it is which is kind of old fashion so I took the liberty of a better, nice looking and cheaper case too.

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13 minutes ago, TA4life said:

1. Budget & Location

Budget: $1900 CAD

Location: Canada

2. Aim

1080p max settings high performance monster of a computer that can do a little bit of video editing on the side.

3. Monitors

Plan on using 2 monitors

4. Peripherals

no peripherals needed

5. Why are you upgrading?

Currently using an old laptop that it not performing to my wants and needs so I might as well build my first desktop and have some fun

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pJjxcc

 

Link about brings you to the pcpartpicker website where i have planned out the parts I want to get. Please let me know what you think and give me feedback and tips for this build. For those who will ask me why i took the k and ftw it is because I do plan on overclocking this computer. I am trying to keep a red and black look to the computer so any changes to the parts please try and keep it red and black or if you really feel up for a change in color then you can try and change it to what you want. Thank you

inb4 "6600k will bottleneck"

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($409.99 @ Memory Express) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($174.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($89.99 @ NCIX) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.95 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($599.99 @ NCIX) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ NCIX) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($24.95 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1777.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-19 11:25 EDT-0400

 

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3 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I made a few mods:

Basically I kept the Z170 so you can have the option to upgrade to an unlocked kaby lake but the non k 6700 it's still a 4.0ghz turbo boost with hyperthreading which should work out better than the 6600k specially since we're saving the cost of an AIO cooler (You can even ditch the Evo the 6700 it's only 65watts tdp non overclockable but it looks nice and you have it in case you get a kaby lake later)

 
Also that Corsair case is too expensive for what it is which is kind of old fashion so I took the liberty of a better, nice looking and cheaper case too.

Basically you only change cpu, case and cpu cooler...

You should have picked the 6700k there as it's still within budget.

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12 minutes ago, frozeNNN said:

6600k will bottleneck 1070 on 1080p

I am sorry, but I find this information ridiculous. How do you mean it will bottleneck the 1070? And why should that be? Are there some references you can point us towards?

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The HUMBLE Computer:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X • Noctua NH-U12A • ASUS STRIX X570-F • Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 • GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX1080 G1 • FRACTAL DESIGN Define C w/ blue Meshify C front • Corsair RM750x (2018) • OS: Kingston KC2000 1TB GAMES: Intel 660p 1TB DATA: Seagate Desktop 2TB • Acer Predator X34P 34" 3440x1440p 120 Hz IPS curved Ultrawide • Corsair STRAFE RGB Cherry MX Brown • Logitech G502 HERO / Logitech MX Master 3

 

Notebook:  HP Spectre x360 13" late 2018

Core i7 8550U • 16GB DDR3 RAM • 512GB NVMe SSD • 13" 1920x1080p 120 Hz IPS touchscreen • dual Thunderbolt 3

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2 minutes ago, Ichi said:

Basically you only change cpu, case and cpu cooler...

You should have picked the 6700k there as it's still within budget.

Well yeah that's a good point, I thought the price difference would be larger but it's still within budget.

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1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

Well yeah that's a good point, I thought the price difference would be larger but it's still within budget.

Color me surprised as well.

The price difference is not even $15, lol.

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6 minutes ago, vojta.pokorny said:

I am sorry, but I find this information ridiculous. How do you mean it will bottleneck the 1070? And why should that be? Are there some references you can point us towards?

1070 won't be fully utilized with even overclocked 6600k.

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Just now, frozeNNN said:

1070 won't be fully utilized with even overclocked 6600k.

As in "it's too much for 1080p" or "the CPU is too little for the 1070"?

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The HUMBLE Computer:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X • Noctua NH-U12A • ASUS STRIX X570-F • Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 • GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX1080 G1 • FRACTAL DESIGN Define C w/ blue Meshify C front • Corsair RM750x (2018) • OS: Kingston KC2000 1TB GAMES: Intel 660p 1TB DATA: Seagate Desktop 2TB • Acer Predator X34P 34" 3440x1440p 120 Hz IPS curved Ultrawide • Corsair STRAFE RGB Cherry MX Brown • Logitech G502 HERO / Logitech MX Master 3

 

Notebook:  HP Spectre x360 13" late 2018

Core i7 8550U • 16GB DDR3 RAM • 512GB NVMe SSD • 13" 1920x1080p 120 Hz IPS touchscreen • dual Thunderbolt 3

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3 minutes ago, vojta.pokorny said:

As in "it's too much for 1080p" or "the CPU is too little for the 1070"?

Little bit of both. People say 1070 is bottlenecked by 6600k on 1080p but not on 1440p

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To clarify: The 6600k will bottleneck the 1070 if you're planning on playing 1080p at 120hz or better. The GPU can certainly handle it but the CPU starts lagging behind at that point.

 

If you will play at 60 FPS it won't make any difference and if you play at 1440p or greater it also becomes GPU bound once again so it's fine.

 

So yeah there's a bottleneck on very specific cases of high refresh rate 1080p gaming but nowhere else really.

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Thank you all for the feedback I will take all of it in when remaking build. Should I ditch the aio cooler for an air cooler to get a better CPU. Is there any performance difference between them.

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50 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

To clarify: The 6600k will bottleneck the 1070 if you're planning on playing 1080p at 120hz or better. The GPU can certainly handle it but the CPU starts lagging behind at that point.

 

If you will play at 60 FPS it won't make any difference and if you play at 1440p or greater it also becomes GPU bound once again so it's fine.

 

So yeah there's a bottleneck on very specific cases of high refresh rate 1080p gaming but nowhere else really.

11 minutes ago, TA4life said:

Thank you all for the feedback I will take all of it in when remaking build. Should I ditch the aio cooler for an air cooler to get a better CPU. Is there any performance difference between them.

 

Air coolers have fewer moving parts and fewer points of failure:

 

Air cooler: motor in the fan, fan can break

 

Liquid cooler: motor in the fan(s), motor in the pump, EVERYTHING can break (my opinion, I have zero experience with liquid cooling because I think it's too expensive and too complicated)

 

You can get the cooling performance of an AiO with a good enough tower heatsink and save a lot of money on it.

 

Regarding the CPU/GPU/resolution dilemma, have you considered

 

A: going for a 1440p monitor?

or

B: getting a 1060, which would be (in my opinion) more reasonable at 1080p?

 

 

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The HUMBLE Computer:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X • Noctua NH-U12A • ASUS STRIX X570-F • Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 • GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX1080 G1 • FRACTAL DESIGN Define C w/ blue Meshify C front • Corsair RM750x (2018) • OS: Kingston KC2000 1TB GAMES: Intel 660p 1TB DATA: Seagate Desktop 2TB • Acer Predator X34P 34" 3440x1440p 120 Hz IPS curved Ultrawide • Corsair STRAFE RGB Cherry MX Brown • Logitech G502 HERO / Logitech MX Master 3

 

Notebook:  HP Spectre x360 13" late 2018

Core i7 8550U • 16GB DDR3 RAM • 512GB NVMe SSD • 13" 1920x1080p 120 Hz IPS touchscreen • dual Thunderbolt 3

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17 minutes ago, TA4life said:

Thank you all for the feedback I will take all of it in when remaking build. Should I ditch the aio cooler for an air cooler to get a better CPU. Is there any performance difference between them.

 

One more think, you mentioned planning to use 2 monitors. Do you plan to game at 2 1080p monitors? (that would be 3840x1080p)

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The HUMBLE Computer:

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X • Noctua NH-U12A • ASUS STRIX X570-F • Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 • GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX1080 G1 • FRACTAL DESIGN Define C w/ blue Meshify C front • Corsair RM750x (2018) • OS: Kingston KC2000 1TB GAMES: Intel 660p 1TB DATA: Seagate Desktop 2TB • Acer Predator X34P 34" 3440x1440p 120 Hz IPS curved Ultrawide • Corsair STRAFE RGB Cherry MX Brown • Logitech G502 HERO / Logitech MX Master 3

 

Notebook:  HP Spectre x360 13" late 2018

Core i7 8550U • 16GB DDR3 RAM • 512GB NVMe SSD • 13" 1920x1080p 120 Hz IPS touchscreen • dual Thunderbolt 3

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47 minutes ago, vojta.pokorny said:

 

Air coolers have fewer moving parts and fewer points of failure:

 

Air cooler: motor in the fan, fan can break

 

Liquid cooler: motor in the fan(s), motor in the pump, EVERYTHING can break (my opinion, I have zero experience with liquid cooling because I think it's too expensive and too complicated)

 

You can get the cooling performance of an AiO with a good enough tower heatsink and save a lot of money on it.

 

Regarding the CPU/GPU/resolution dilemma, have you considered

 

A: going for a 1440p monitor?

or

B: getting a 1060, which would be (in my opinion) more reasonable at 1080p?

 

 

A. I have one 1600x900 monitor and I was thinking of getting a 1440p monitor but I really don't want to spend too much on a monitor and I would rather prioritize Hz over 1440p. If you know of a good 1440p monitor with above 60 Hz please link it it here.

45 minutes ago, vojta.pokorny said:

 

One more think, you mentioned planning to use 2 monitors. Do you plan to game at 2 1080p monitors? (that would be 3840x1080p)

I only plan on gaming on one screen and using the other screen for multi tasking purposes.

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