4770k, Maximus VI Gene CPU Heat Confusion HELP!

[Jakeman_5000]

OK,

First post on any forum, ever.

This thing out of the way, my spelling is atrocious, and i know this.

 

Now the fun stuff.

I went out and built myself a new rig:

4770k with a Corsair H100i to cool the bugga (top mount)

on a Asus MAXIMUS Gene with some 2X8Gig Corsair Vengeance pro sticks shuved in @1600MHz

A litttle Asus GTX 780 Direct CU II OC with lego man on a lego horse to hold up the sag (little trooper)

256Gig Sammy Pro SSD, all powerd up by a TT EVO_BLUE 2.0 850W Power thing.

All neatly in a Corsair 350D

 

Now the story.

Im getting mad temps when ever i run stress tests on intel burn test (10 pass on normal) and prime95. my idle temp sits on approx 26-30C accross all cores but moving all the time, this is read by CPUID HWmon and Core Temp, sits a litte lower when i jump into BIOS. 

When i run the tests my temps jump straight up to 50C and on to 80-90C in secconds. straight after the test, the temp jumps straight back down to 26-30C. when i jump straight into BIOS it reads about 26C. i took the mobo side, side pannle off to see if the under side of the cpu was heating up at all but was just room temp, if not a little warm when runng the tests. if it was getting to these temps i dont think i would b able to touch it.

i have tryed this with the stock cooler with similar results, the H100i has lower idle temps (thank F**K). 

I have re seated many times with stock, coolermaster V1 ic value and now using Arctic Silver 5, notheing realy changed.. 

Under gaming load the story is a little different runnig the likes of Crysis 3, Farcry 3 and Metro Last Light All maxed out @ 1920x1080. my temps only hit a max of 61C, i find this reading to be true with my pushing warm air out and the Rad warming up and takeing a min to cool down after the gaming stops! after a 6 hour sesh (i call this sad time).

 

So i dont know if it is a dodgy chip or Mobo not reading correctly. or is something im f**king up.

the pain is none of my mates use Haswell so i cant even test the chip or another one on my rig.

 

Any help would be RAD!!

Cheers

JM5k

 

 

 

 

[rhyseyness]

It's a bad chip me thinks. Possibly even worse than mine.

Unless... are you saying the stock cooler produces the same load temps at the same voltages?

[SuperPug]

DON'T run synthetics like prime95 on the haswell cpu's. They apply more voltage to the cpu than what is set in the bios and turn them into lava... Around 60 clesius on gaming load is a bit high but still ok.

[Jakeman_5000]

DON'T run synthetics like prime95 on the haswell cpu's. They apply more voltage to the cpu than what is set in the bios and turn them into lava... Around 60 clesius on gaming load is a bit high but still ok.

yeah, just read about this i will stop using it, the point is i got the K SKU and the H100i coz i wanted to try out a bit of OCing, cant do that till i sort out what is being odd, my numbers dont give a phyisical representation on what is going on. when i run the tests on intel burn test my block and the back side dont heat up much at all. recomend any other tricks i could try befor i go and chuck more mony into it that i dont have??

[Jakeman_5000]

It's a bad chip me thinks. Possibly even worse than mine.

Unless... are you saying the stock cooler produces the same load temps at the same voltages?

a few deg hotter, all stock volts.

[rhyseyness]

@Jakeman_5000

 

Hmm, maybe it is your cooler then.

My H100i is MUCH cooler than the stock cooler on a 3570k

[SuperPug]

Use the 3-way optimization feature of your asus board and see how far it pushes the clocks. If it can't get atleast to ~4.2/4.3ish then there's either a problem with your cooling or your chip is actually bad - in which case you could try to return it...

[Levent]

your overclock ? your voltage settings?  did you leave everything on auto? (i have a friend with 2500k his bios was running that chip 4.3ghz 1.35v on stock cooler with auto settings)

[TheSLSAMG]

DON'T RUN PRIME95 ON HASWELL CHIPS. IT IS KNOWN TO KILL CHIPS, DUE TO THE INCREASE IN VOLTAGE THAT THE TEST PUTS ON IT.

(By the way, this is not meant to offend, but rather to warn.)

[Jakeman_5000]

Use the 3-way optimization feature of your asus board and see how far it pushes the clocks. If it can't get atleast to ~4.2/4.3ish then there's either a problem with your cooling or your chip is actually bad - in which case you could try to return it...

i think i will give that a shot, got it from a local shop and they are happy to send it away, just dont like being without my rig.

@Jakeman_5000

 

Hmm, maybe it is your cooler then.

My H100i is MUCH cooler than the stock cooler on a 3570k

i did swap out the fans that came with the H100i to Corsair SP120 QEs, will try swapping back and not useing the fan hub on the block. the fans do speed up under gameing load, but will try.

[Jakeman_5000]

your overclock ? your voltage settings?  did you leave everything on auto? (i have a friend with 2500k his bios was running that chip 4.3ghz 1.35v on stock cooler with auto settings)

all stock buddy, only thing i have changed is RAM from 800 to 1600.

[Jakeman_5000]

DON'T RUN PRIME95 ON HASWELL CHIPS. IT IS KNOWN TO KILL CHIPS, DUE TO THE INCREASE IN VOLTAGE THAT THE TEST PUTS ON IT.

(By the way, this is not meant to offend, but rather to warn.)

no longer using this, only ran the test for about 5 mins, well after my first tests with intel burn test, 

[Levent]

all stock buddy, only thing i have changed is RAM from 800 to 1600.

then its a bad chip (you might think about delidding if you can afford to take the risk like i did)

[rhyseyness]

i think i will give that a shot, got it from a local shop and they are happy to send it away, just dont like being without my rig.

i did swap out the fans that came with the H100i to Corsair SP120 QEs, will try swapping back and not useing the fan hub on the block. the fans do speed up under gameing load, but will try.

Nah, I wouldn't bother. The fans you've put on it are better ones.

I have noctua's on mine at 700 rpm. 1.2V 4GHz overclock and under load my temps only hit 75C max.

You either have a poor cooler or a poor chip. If it's the cooler that's poor, you should RMA it, and get a new one.

If it's the chip, i'm afraid there's not much you can do (apart from delidding it... always an option)

[CthulDude]

What does corsair link say your pump and fans rpm are at? Also, have you tried reseating the waterblock with new thermal paste? Is the H100i backplate aligned correctly?

[s0emand]

Intel 3rd and 4th generation chips have some very bad temalpaste inside but this sound a bit extreme..try to contact Intel.

[Jakeman_5000]

What does corsair link say your pump and fans rpm are at? Also, have you tried reseating the waterblock with new thermal paste? Is the H100i backplate aligned correctly?

 

I have re seated many times with stock, coolermaster V1 ic value and now using Arctic Silver 5, notheing realy changed.. 

 

my CPU rpm is sitting on about 2243, like up the top. i have tryed useing verious pastes, the back plate is holding tightly.

 

Use the 3-way optimization feature of your asus board and see how far it pushes the clocks. If it can't get atleast to ~4.2/4.3ish then there's either a problem with your cooling or your chip is actually bad - in which case you could try to return it...

i tryed out the 4-way one button OC, looks like i got to 4.2 ok, my idle temps now sitting about 4-5C hotter

 

 

So, i am still wearded out by the tep jumps under stress testing, i dont see how temps can jump up so high and down so fast, and not seem to put out any phisical heat out the back of the chip or the water block its self.

 

Its just frustrating.

[FellTheSky]

im just gonna say that its not the first time ive seen this. Many of my friends have haswell and when running any tipe of stress test temperatures go 85c++, most of them dont want to go higher than 4.0

[CthulDude]

You should consider delidding and using coolabratory liquid pro/ultra. You will see an 18c-24c drop in delta temps.