4690k First Overclock ever!

[TommyTwommy]

I put core voltage: 1.260V

I put frequency 44x100MHz = 4.4GHz

 

Temperatures while stress testing: MAX - 73°C, AVG - 68°C

I'm using stress test from AIDA64 (CPU, FPU, Cache). Runnig for few minutes. How long should I run it? Can I do better overclock?

 

My cooler is Hyper 212x from Coolermaster.

[Skiiwee29]

Run it for about 30 minutes that will give you your maximum temps. For true stability, run it for 12+hrs and ensure it doesnt crash. 

[Leadneck]

Run it all day.

 

If you come back tomorrow and it's still running, well then you've got yourself a stable overclock.

[TommyTwommy]

Just now, legacy99 said:

Run it for about 30 minutes that will give you your maximum temps. For true stability, run it for 12+hrs and ensure it doesnt crash. 

Before I did the overvolt I played GTA V for like 2-3 minutes and instantly got BSOD. So I put voltage t 1.260 cuz I read that 1.3 is max safe for 22nm Haswell.

 

I can't run it for 12 hours, my pc isn't even on for that long.. Maybe 2-3 hours max

[Skiiwee29]

Well to get a true test of stability that is what is needed. And yes, the maximum safe voltage for 24/7 operation of haswell is 1.3v with proper cooling and temperature control. As long as under stress testing you keep the CPU around 75c or lower you should be good. But to get a true stability test, you do need to let it run for 12+hrs to ensure. 

[TommyTwommy]

Just now, legacy99 said:

Well to get a true test of stability that is what is needed. And yes, the maximum safe voltage for 24/7 operation of haswell is 1.3v with proper cooling and temperature control. As long as under stress testing you keep the CPU around 75c or lower you should be good. But to get a true stability test, you do need to let it run for 12+hrs to ensure. 

Meh, I'll just use it like this, if it crashes, I lower the frequency. If it doesn't then it's stable.. No need to waste 12hrs...

[Leadneck]

8 minutes ago, berny22 said:

Meh, I'll just use it like this, if it crashes, I lower the frequency. If it doesn't then it's stable.. No need to waste 12hrs...

Perfectly acceptable for you to run  your machine however you'd like!

 

Just...don't work on your thesis for hours without saving or anything like that and you'll be fine.

[TommyTwommy]

1 hour ago, Leadneck said:

Perfectly acceptable for you to run  your machine however you'd like!

 

Just...don't work on your thesis for hours without saving or anything like that and you'll be fine.

I actually think I'm stable. GTA V turns out to be a perfect stress testing game.. I entered the game @ 4.4GHz Auto voltage and I crashed after few seconds of gameplay. Then I tried changing to frequency to 4.2GHz but I was still crashing.  Then I tried overvolting to 1.26V but the temps were not so nice. So I changed the voltage to 1.24V. Now it doesn't crash anymore and the CPU is not going over 70°C. I'm just suprised how can a game be a better stress tester than software that is made for that purpose. I stressed CPU, FPU & Cache.. All cores went 100% load but I didn't get BSOD. And in GTA V I get BSOD only after few seconds of gameplay when my cpu is unstable.

[done12many2]

15 minutes ago, berny22 said:

I actually think I'm stable. GTA V turns out to be a perfect stress testing game.. I entered the game @ 4.4GHz Auto voltage and I crashed after few seconds of gameplay. Then I tried changing to frequency to 4.2GHz but I was still crashing.  Then I tried overvolting to 1.26V but the temps were not so nice. So I changed the voltage to 1.24V. Now it doesn't crash anymore and the CPU is not going over 70°C. I'm just suprised how can a game be a better stress tester than software that is made for that purpose. I stressed CPU, FPU & Cache.. All cores went 100% load but I didn't get BSOD. And in GTA V I get BSOD only after few seconds of gameplay when my cpu is unstable.

 

Your PC only needs to be as stable as you need it to be.  There's no need in running 12hr or overnight stability tests if you don't need it.  Besides that, best practice is to hit your CPU with a bunch of different tests instead of one test for a long time.

 

Just because your CPU is seeing 100% use, doesn't mean it's being exposed to the heaviest of loads.  Try running AIDA64 (CPU, Cache, and FPU), ReachBench, and OCCT for just over an hour a piece.  Stressing your CPU with a variety of loads is more important that running any one test for half a day.  That does very little to prove overall stability.  Follow all of that up with some gaming and you can consider your overclock stable.

[TommyTwommy]

6 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Your PC only needs to be as stable as you need it to be.  There's no need in running 12hr or overnight stability tests if you don't need it.  Besides that, best practice is to hit your CPU with a bunch of different tests instead of one test for a long time.

 

Just because your CPU is seeing 100% use, doesn't mean it's being exposed to the heaviest of loads.  Try running AIDA64 (CPU, Cache, and FPU), ReachBench, and OCCT for just over an hour a piece.  Stressing your CPU with a variety of loads is more important that running any one test for half a day.  That does very little to prove overall stability.  Follow all of that up with some gaming and you can consider your overclock stable.

Nice idea.. Ok Im running OCCT, prime95 & AIDA64 all at once. while playing °GTA V and nothing is happening.. its all stable and temperatures dont go above 70°C.. although GTA V is unplayable and the text that I'm typing at this moment is lagging ^^ anyways I think I did a nice stable overclock for my first time

[done12many2]

Just now, berny22 said:

Nice idea.. Ok Im running OCCT, prime95 & AIDA64 all at once. while playing °GTA V and nothing is happening.. its all stable and temperatures dont go above 70°C.. although GTA V is unplayable and the text that I'm typing at this moment is lagging ^^ anyways I think I did a nice stable overclock for my first time

 

Running them at once serves no purpose. The load doesn't stack like you're thinking.  If anything, that's actually easier on the CPU.  Run separately.  

[DXMember]

yeah, GTA V is crazy heavy on stuff, I can run stress tests like Linpack, Firestrike, Realbench and stuff all day long, as soon as I play GTA V for a couple of minutes or sometimes hours it inevitably causes a crash on dodgy overclocks

[Leadneck]

Well, GTAV likes to hit your whole system at once. CPU, Memory, Storage, GPU, VRAM, you name it!

 

Stressing the CPU really only does that so, it makes sense that it's a good way to shake out instabilities.

[incarnate]

7 hours ago, berny22 said:

I put core voltage: 1.260V

I put frequency 44x100MHz = 4.4GHz

 

Temperatures while stress testing: MAX - 73°C, AVG - 68°C

I'm using stress test from AIDA64 (CPU, FPU, Cache). Runnig for few minutes. How long should I run it? Can I do better overclock?

 

My cooler is Hyper 212x from Coolermaster.

That voltage seems high for 4..4. Bring it down to 1.2, get occt and do a two hour run. If it passes that it should be good. I haven't had an oc fail after a two hour run of occt.

 

Mine got 4.4 at 1.16v, but mine is very good at that range. 1.2 should be doable unless you got a crap overclocker.

[TommyTwommy]

16 hours ago, incarnate said:

That voltage seems high for 4..4. Bring it down to 1.2, get occt and do a two hour run. If it passes that it should be good. I haven't had an oc fail after a two hour run of occt.

 

Mine got 4.4 at 1.16v, but mine is very good at that range. 1.2 should be doable unless you got a crap overclocker.

I just ran Prime95 small fft .. and my temps jumped to 80°C WTF.. if i lower the voltage i cant run GTA V at all... 1.2V @ 4.2GHz = game crashes...

 

Auto Voltage @ 4GHZ = 75°C ... wtf? I can't overclock at all.. my cpu is hot even with no overvolt and a minimum overclock.. what am I doing wrong

I'm sure I put the cooler correctly.. I bottomed up the screws.. the thermal paste spread over the whole cpu.. Is it possible because I used the thermal paste that came with the cooler?

[incarnate]

5 hours ago, berny22 said:

I just ran Prime95 small fft .. and my temps jumped to 80°C WTF.. if i lower the voltage i cant run GTA V at all... 1.2V @ 4.2GHz = game crashes...

 

Auto Voltage @ 4GHZ = 75°C ... wtf? I can't overclock at all.. my cpu is hot even with no overvolt and a minimum overclock.. what am I doing wrong

I'm sure I put the cooler correctly.. I bottomed up the screws.. the thermal paste spread over the whole cpu.. Is it possible because I used the thermal paste that came with the cooler?

First. Stop using prime 95. It's ridiculously unrealistic in terms of heat load. Use occt instead. Also prime 95 has issues with haswell

 

Second auto voltage is not stock voltage. It will ramp up the voltage much quicker than necessary. Don't ever use auto voltage when overclocking.

 

Third, reset everything to defaults (be sure to do this) in the bios. Set the voltage to manual mode. Set the voltage to 1.2v and multiplier to 41, disable turbo and speed stepping, then run 15-30 min tests in occt. If it passes increase the multiplier by one and test again for a bit longer. When you get a bluescreen increase the voltage by 0.01 and try again.

 

As you get up to 4.4ghz you'll want to test for 2 hours. If it passes 2 hours and doesn't get too hot (85°C is the upper limit here) then it should be fine.

 

once you're finished overclocking, enable turbo and speed stepping again.

 

I highly doubt your cpu is unstable at 4.2 ghz at 1.2v.

[TommyTwommy]

1 hour ago, incarnate said:

First. Stop using prime 95. It's ridiculously unrealistic in terms of heat load. Use occt instead. Also prime 95 has issues with haswell

 

Second auto voltage is not stock voltage. It will ramp up the voltage much quicker than necessary. Don't ever use auto voltage when overclocking.

 

Third, reset everything to defaults (be sure to do this) in the bios. Set the voltage to manual mode. Set the voltage to 1.2v and multiplier to 41, disable turbo and speed stepping, then run 15-30 min tests in occt. If it passes increase the multiplier by one and test again for a bit longer. When you get a bluescreen increase the voltage by 0.01 and try again.

 

As you get up to 4.4ghz you'll want to test for 2 hours. If it passes 2 hours and doesn't get too hot (85°C is the upper limit here) then it should be fine.

 

once you're finished overclocking, enable turbo and speed stepping again.

 

I highly doubt your cpu is unstable at 4.2 ghz at 1.2v.

I reset everything, I change voltage to 1.2V and frequency to 4.2GHz.. And I'm hitting 80°C using OCCT

 

EDIT 3.2GHz @ 1.1V = <60°C stress test

 

looks like a bought a cooler and a overclockable cpu and a Z series motherboard for nothing and wasted a ton of money on shit..

[incarnate]

1 hour ago, berny22 said:

I reset everything, I change voltage to 1.2V and frequency to 4.2GHz.. And I'm hitting 80°C using OCCT

 

EDIT 3.2GHz @ 1.1V = <60°C stress test

 

looks like a bought a cooler and a overclockable cpu and a Z series motherboard for nothing and wasted a ton of money on shit..

The hyper 212 is an entry level cooler, it's decent but has its limits. and 80°c is FINE on stress tests. You won't hit that kind of heat load when gaming.

 

Voltage causes more heat than clock speed do try pushing the clock speeds higher.

 

Keep in mind the air temp has an effect as well. So if it's hot where you live then your temps will be higher.

 

When I had the 212, my temps for stress tests at 1.2v where around 82°C. You can set a more aggressive fan curve to help at higher temps.

 

If you aren't comfortable with this, then overclocking isn't for you.

[TommyTwommy]

4 hours ago, incarnate said:

First. Stop using prime 95. It's ridiculously unrealistic in terms of heat load. Use occt instead. Also prime 95 has issues with haswell

 

Second auto voltage is not stock voltage. It will ramp up the voltage much quicker than necessary. Don't ever use auto voltage when overclocking.

 

Third, reset everything to defaults (be sure to do this) in the bios. Set the voltage to manual mode. Set the voltage to 1.2v and multiplier to 41, disable turbo and speed stepping, then run 15-30 min tests in occt. If it passes increase the multiplier by one and test again for a bit longer. When you get a bluescreen increase the voltage by 0.01 and try again.

 

As you get up to 4.4ghz you'll want to test for 2 hours. If it passes 2 hours and doesn't get too hot (85°C is the upper limit here) then it should be fine.

 

once you're finished overclocking, enable turbo and speed stepping again.

 

I highly doubt your cpu is unstable at 4.2 ghz at 1.2v.

I'm gonna keep running stock speeds & stock voltage (auto) since I can't get a stable overclock.. I dont want to waste a day or more trying to find a stable overclock that won't do any notable performance boost. 4.4GHz ain't worth my time. 3.9 turbo is enough for me.. + temps on stress testing are below 60°C

 

although I'm very dissapointed cuz I wasted money on a K cpu & on a Z motherboard.. could've gotten some cheap mbo anda 4690 non k.. and bought a 1060

[incarnate]

33 minutes ago, berny22 said:

I'm gonna keep running stock speeds & stock voltage (auto) since I can't get a stable overclock.. I dont want to waste a day or more trying to find a stable overclock that won't do any notable performance boost. 4.4GHz ain't worth my time. 3.9 turbo is enough for me.. + temps on stress testing are below 60°C

 

although I'm very dissapointed cuz I wasted money on a K cpu & on a Z motherboard.. could've gotten some cheap mbo anda 4690 non k.. and bought a 1060

Yeah, it takes time to get an overclock, sorry you had to spend money to find out it's not for you.