Building mid-range PC

[Hzsharp]

Hey guys need your help over here,

 

This will be the second pc I will build. It will be for my little brother and he has a budget of +-600 euro. It will be mostly used for gaming and some basic programs. I searched through the components and this is what I came up with:

GPU: 
- gtx 960             
CPU:
- intel core i3-6100 boxed  
Motherboard:
- Gigabyte GA-B150-HD3P      
Ram:
- Kingston HyperX Fury black     (2x4)
HX318C10FBK2/8    (LP)      

Cooler:
-be quiet! Pure Rock       

Storage:
- WD Blue WD10EZEX, 1TB     

Case:
- Sharkoon VG4-W Green 

Power:
- Corsair VS450  

 

this together is  630,- euros 

I dont really want to go further then 630 euros. but maybe there are items that can be replaced by better once and staying around the same price.

 

Could you guys give me feedback on this component list? 

thanks in advance

[Brennan Price]

i3-6100 + GTX 960 = Bad idea

MB = overpowered for a build like this

Add SSD to HDD instead of just an HDD

Change out power supply for something that is much higher rated so your brother does not haver to pay for  a new power supply a year down the line

[Gokufighther]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JhDrVY

 

might be good, it is future proof.

 

few things you can change if you want, the case can be changed to something more stylish, but you either have to spend more or make the mobo h110, either works.

 

you can go with an i5 6400 or 6500 and use an h110 mobo, that is if you dont want to upgrade the processor in the future (with mine all you have to do is swap the processor with a 6600k or 6700k and you are golden. This way (the i5 instead of the i3) you would need a whole new motherboard if you plan on getting a better processor)

 

also g.skill sells TridentZ ram on their website, it is in different colors than the one i used. check them out if you want.

 

the rx 480 is a good gpu as well, you might save a few bucks by going with that instead, only if it is availible for a good price, the 4gb model is good as well depending on the games and res he wants to play at.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Brennan_Price said:

i3-6100 + GTX 960 = Bad idea

MB = over powered for a build like this

Add SSD to HDD instead of just an HDD

Why is i3 6100 + gtx 960 a bad idea?

[Gokufighther]

2 minutes ago, HydraGaming said:

Why is i3 6100 + gtx 960 a bad idea?

becuase the 960 is not worth the money, the 480 4gb is out for the same price and performs about 40-50% better. the 960 is old news, go for a 1060 or 480 instead

[Brennan Price]

7 minutes ago, HydraGaming said:

Why is i3 6100 + gtx 960 a bad idea?

Ok so, personally I think that you may as well go with an i5 with a GTX 960 because it is similar to what I did with my brothers PC. I gave my bro a Pentium G620 with a GTX 460 and the bottleneck on his PC is the CPU whereas the GPU can go much further performance wise i.e. a bottleneck because I didn't know he would be video editing. I know the i3 is not specifically bottlenecking the 960 but if the GPU was paired with a higher tier CPU to begin with, then if he wanted to do more high-end things then he can without worries. Idk if this makes sense.

Also I agree with what @Gokufighther said.

[Gokufighther]

4 minutes ago, Brennan_Price said:

Ok so, personally I think that you may as well go with an i5 with a GTX 960 because it is similar to what I did with my brothers PC. I gave my bro a Pentium G620 with a GTX 460 and the bottleneck on his PC is the CPU whereas the GPU can go much further performance wise i.e. a bottleneck because I didn't know he would be video editing. I know the i3 is not specifically bottlenecking the 960 but if the GPU was paired with a higher tier CPU to begin with, then if he wanted to do more high-end things then he can without worries. Idk if this makes sense.

Also I agree with what @Gokufighther said.

thinking about this... why would you agree with me and still recommend a 960 and also say it is the same as yours due to a cpu bottleneck when an i5 wont bottleneck that gtx 960?

 

not hating, but i find that strange

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JhDrVY

Your list got the wrong currency. 

[Gokufighther]

1 minute ago, HydraGaming said:

Your list got the wrong currency. 

i typed in pcpartpicker europe into google.. it gave me uk... not much i can do there...

[Gokufighther]

16 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JhDrVY

 

might be good, it is future proof.

 

few things you can change if you want, the case can be changed to something more stylish, but you either have to spend more or make the mobo h110, either works.

 

you can go with an i5 6400 or 6500 and use an h110 mobo, that is if you dont want to upgrade the processor in the future (with mine all you have to do is swap the processor with a 6600k or 6700k and you are golden. This way (the i5 instead of the i3) you would need a whole new motherboard if you plan on getting a better processor)

 

also g.skill sells TridentZ ram on their website, it is in different colors than the one i used. check them out if you want.

 

the rx 480 is a good gpu as well, you might save a few bucks by going with that instead, only if it is availible for a good price, the 4gb model is good as well depending on the games and res he wants to play at.

this build is appearently 750 euros? idk, i typed in pcpartpicker europe and it didnt display euros i guess? i thought £ was the euro sign, but it must be the pound sign, the euro one must be the c with the two -'s in it

[Guest]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€183.50 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€62.21 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€35.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.65 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card  (€198.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman R1 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€44.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: XFX XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€51.60 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €629.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-07 23:51 CEST+0200

[Gokufighther]

1 minute ago, HydraGaming said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€183.50 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€62.21 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€35.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.65 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card  (€198.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman R1 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€44.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: XFX XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€51.60 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €629.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-07 23:51 CEST+0200

the xt psu lineup... no bueno... get something higher quality that wont blow up... i cannot stress spending more on a good, effecient, clean psu

[Brennan Price]

3 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

thinking about this... why would you agree with me and still recommend a 960 and also say it is the same as yours due to a cpu bottleneck when an i5 wont bottleneck that gtx 960?

 

not hating, but i find that strange

 

Ok maybe I didn't explain it enough. Of course, the i5 won't bottleneck the 960 but the i3 kinda will. My comparison is that the i3 and the 960 are the same problems I faced with the G620 and the GTX 460. My bro does alright when video editing and doesn't need a CPU upgrade because he doesn't game on it. However, if my bro wanted to game on it then he would run into problems and therefore I would have bought him a better CPU to begin with. So, I am saying why doesn't the guy buy his bro a better CPU to begin with so he doesn't struggle later down the line like my bro would if he wanted to game.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Gokufighther said:

the xt psu lineup... no bueno... get something higher quality that wont blow up... i cannot stress spending more on a good, effecient, clean psu

I thought the golden rule of "anything xfx" was still relevant, thanks for pointing it out. Didnt know xfx xt series was bad.

[Gokufighther]

1 minute ago, HydraGaming said:

I thought the golden rule of "anything xfx" was still relevant, thanks for pointing it out. Didnt know xfx xt series was bad.

horrible everything (except cables.. all black...) in terms of psus, get this http://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/nPR48d/be-quiet-power-supply-bn223

or the EVGA 500B instead, both are same price, and better everything

[SteveGrabowski0]

46 minutes ago, Hzsharp said:

Hey guys need your help over here,

 

This will be the second pc I will build. It will be for my little brother and he has a budget of +-600 euro. It will be mostly used for gaming and some basic programs. I searched through the components and this is what I came up with:

GPU: 
- gtx 960             
CPU:
- intel core i3-6100 boxed  
Motherboard:
- Gigabyte GA-B150-HD3P      
Ram:
- Kingston HyperX Fury black     (2x4)
HX318C10FBK2/8    (LP)      

Cooler:
-be quiet! Pure Rock       

Storage:
- WD Blue WD10EZEX, 1TB     

Case:
- Sharkoon VG4-W Green 

Power:
- Corsair VS450  

 

this together is  630,- euros 

I dont really want to go further then 630 euros. but maybe there are items that can be replaced by better once and staying around the same price.

 

Could you guys give me feedback on this component list? 

thanks in advance

There is no reason to buy an aftermarket cooler for a locked processor. The stock cooler that comes with an i3 is more than enough to cool such a lower power cpu. Even if you went with a locked i5 or i7 the bundled stock cooler is more than enough to cool it.

[Guest]

Updated list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€183.41 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€62.21 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€35.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card  (€198.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman R1 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€44.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: be quiet! 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€54.54 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €632.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-08 00:15 CEST+0200

 

Thanks @Gokufightherfor the suggestions

 

[Guest]

^That PC would be significantly more powerful and if you want it a little bit cheaper you could take a different case or step down to an i3.

 

If you step down to an i3 i recommend however grabbing some 2666mhz ram because that will give you some more performance in CPU demanding games like GTAV.

[Nena Trinity]

 

PC Build Guide – Intel i3 ATX: (Less than 700$)

*CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 (does not need after market cooler)

*GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB (can be replaced by RX 470, GTX 970 or R9 390)

*Mobo: ASUS H170-PLUS D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

*RAM: Hyper X Fury 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3-1866MHz (most be 1.35v or less)

*PSU: XFX TS 650W

*Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM SSHD

*http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vhDxY

 

630 euro is about 700usd right? o3o

[Hzsharp]

I wasn't expecting such amino. thank you all for the replies! I was already worried that the I3 would service. but @Hydragaming your list looks really solid and I will be able to move on from there. @SteveGrabowski0 you are probably right that it isn't worth the money to infest in a aftermarket CPU cooler when you wont be overclocking it. 

 

I will sort out the components from this feedback and I will later post the "complete" list what I will do. thanks all!

[Hzsharp]

4 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

 

PC Build Guide – Intel i3 ATX: (Less than 700$)

*CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 (does not need after market cooler)

*GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB (can be replaced by RX 470, GTX 970 or R9 390)

*Mobo: ASUS H170-PLUS D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

*RAM: Hyper X Fury 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3-1866MHz (most be 1.35v or less)

*PSU: XFX TS 650W

*Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM SSHD

*http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vhDxY

 

630 euro is about 700usd right? o3o

Close It adds up to be  €690.73  in total. so a bit to much. Also my brother wont be needing 16gb of ram. 

[Nena Trinity]

3 minutes ago, Hzsharp said:

Close It adds up to be  €690.73  in total. so a bit to much. Also my brother wont be needing 16gb of ram. 

Then you want a 2x4 kit and spend more on a case + OS! (or maybe gaming stuff?) 

 

Edit:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xk2Qqk

Under 700 with case! :3