Is it my cpu or gpu

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, iDeFecZx said:

he shouldnt need to upgrade his cpu. id suggest he try running with v sync on and seeing how that goes

I ran it with v sync. Lets just say its not good.

[iDeFecZx]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

Bro, you are so lucky. Im running settings at medium to reduce fps drops but it drops like a fire mixtape. Really bad every 5 seconds.

try turning v sync on

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, ace_cheaply said:

That stutter is because the cpu can't keep up with the gpu framerate, and the frame time is dropping to +50ms instead of +20 ms which is preferred. It's a common problem with i5's at high refresh rates.  Turn on vsync an you should get a smooth 60fps at all times.   An i7 will alleviate the problem, but if you don't have a 144hz monitor it's kind of a waste in my opinion.  The other games are gpu limited, imo.

so what is my best option

downgrade gpu or upgrade cpu

[ace_cheaply]

1 minute ago, mulkornkidjuicy said:

so what is my best option

downgrade gpu or upgrade cpu

Don't downgrade the gpu for the sake of running old games at faster frame rates for fucks sake, lol.   What do you mean turning vsync on wasn't good? what happened?  

[iDeFecZx]

what refresh rate is your monitor?

[mulkornkidjuicy]

2 minutes ago, ace_cheaply said:

Don't downgrade the gpu for the sake of running old games at faster frame rates for fucks sake, lol.   What do you mean turning vsync on wasn't good? what happened?  

Basically, I had one games of smoothness like butter in a frying pan but then the second game it dropped to 30 fps then back to 60 messing up my mouse smoothness

 

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, iDeFecZx said:

what refresh rate is your monitor?

60hz

[iDeFecZx]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

60hz

then leave v sync on, theres no benefit to have a higher fps than your refresh rate

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, iDeFecZx said:

then leave v sync on, theres no benefit to have a higher fps than your refresh rate

yes but it lags badly, Should i get a 144hz monitor

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

yes but it lags badly, Should i get a 144hz monitor

so which out of these is advisably the best option :

get an i7

144 hz monitor

new pc 

 

 

[iDeFecZx]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

yes but it lags badly, Should i get a 144hz monitor

Does it run at 60fps?

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, iDeFecZx said:

Does it run at 60fps?

yes for like 10 minutes then I drops and fluctuates really badly ( the fps)

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, mulkornkidjuicy said:

yes for like 10 minutes then I drops and fluctuates really badly ( the fps)

temps

[ace_cheaply]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

so which out of these is advisably the best option :

get an i7

144 hz monitor

new pc 

 

 

New pc is not needed.  A 144 hz monitor will only exacerbate the problem with an i5 at high refresh rates, and the 970 is getting to the point where it's only a 1080p60 card for new titles, so the high refresh rate will be wasted on the card and cpu.  The i7 would be the best options out of those listed, but a 4690K matches the 970 a little better. Of course if you wanted to upgrade gpu later, it'll be better to have the i7, but you still have a very cable rig. 

[ace_cheaply]

Just now, iDeFecZx said:

temps

Yeah, download msi afterburner and post a screenshot of the graphs after 10 minutes of gaming so we can see temps, core clocks, and fb usage. 

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, iDeFecZx said:

temps

27 - 31 full load - cpu

75 full load - gpu

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

27 - 31 full load - cpu

75 full load - gpu

also 100 percent cpu usage

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, ace_cheaply said:

New pc is not needed.  A 144 hz monitor will only exacerbate the problem with an i5 at high refresh rates, and the 970 is getting to the point where it's only a 1080p60 card for new titles, so the high refresh rate will be wasted on the card and cpu.  The i7 would be the best options out of those listed, but a 4690K matches the 970 a little better. Of course if you wanted to upgrade gpu later, it'll be better to have the i7, but you still have a very cable rig. 

So the i7?

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, ace_cheaply said:

Yeah, download msi afterburner and post a screenshot of the graphs after 10 minutes of gaming so we can see temps, core clocks, and fb usage. 

i know my temps for the game for 80 minutes 

 

31 - full load cpu 100 percent

75-80 gpu 89 percent

[mulkornkidjuicy]

Just now, mulkornkidjuicy said:

i know my temps for the game for 80 minutes 

 

31 - full load cpu 100 percent

75-80 gpu 89 percent

ive never overclocked the card

[mulkornkidjuicy]

this  is one i have playing and black ops 3 ( loading screen ) 

[ace_cheaply]

3 minutes ago, mulkornkidjuicy said:

i know my temps for the game for 80 minutes 

 

31 - full load cpu 100 percent

75-80 gpu 89 percent

Yes, but we want to see if the boost clock is reduced from max temps, or if it is remaing stable. GPU boost adjusts the clock, and "throttles" the card sometimes even if the temp isn't dangerous.  We also want to see the frame buffer usage throughout the game to see how much of the cpu is being used most of the time. 

[mulkornkidjuicy]

instructions? 

[ace_cheaply]

4 minutes ago, mulkornkidjuicy said:

instructions? 

Download MSI Afterburner, open it.  Open the graphs section at the bottom (just click detach), and click on the settings button to select which graphs you want displayed.  Select clock speed, fb usage, temp, power limit, and maybe cpu temps.  Also set number of columns to 2 in order to show all of the graphs at once.  Then, with the program running, start your game and play normally for 10 minutes or so.  The program will monitor all of the data, and when you exit the game it will be in all of the graphs you set up before.  Use the snipping tool to take a picture of the graphs, save it as graphs_ltt, and then upload it using the function at the bottom of the reply box.  

[mulkornkidjuicy]

black ops 3 10 mins