Is my 980TI being held back by my i3 4150?

[waynec94]

Hello! Been lurking here a fair bit before this, only am taking the time now to sign up and post! Greetings from Kuala Lumpur!

 

A little bit of specs:

 

i3 4150

8 gigs of DDR3 RAM

240 gigs of HyperX SSD

850W PSU (CM Modular)

3 gigs of assorted HDDs

Gigabyte 980TI Xtreme Gaming

Dual 1080p displays

Asrock B85M pro-4

 

in the past my rig has been sporting a GTX 760 by leadtek, decided it's time to upgrade seeing that the 10 series graphics cards are out which led to 980TI's drop in price (it was in the ballpark of my budget)

 

However I am noticing a rather close to negligible improvement in gaming performance, I used to run BF4 (single monitor, 1080p) multiplayer 64 players map on high settings with decent 90+ fps with the 760, however now that I'm using the 980TI, I seem to be getting only about 39 (minimum) to 79 (max) FPS on ultra.

 

With Witcher 3, too. My fps count never really goes beyond 65-ish with hairworks off, the rest maxed out.

 

Wondering if this could be a case of bottlenecking? If so, what is a decent CPU that I should consider upgrading to?

 

By the way a side question, I have an 850W PSU, wondering if my PSU draws 850W 24/7 even at idle? Or it only draws whatever power that is needed? 

 

Thanks!

[PlayStation 2]

You are pushing the CPU to its limit in both games.

No, the PSU only draws what it needs to. It'll never draw 850 watts at idle.

[Morgan MLGman]

Yes, your GTX 980Ti is being bottlenecked quite heavily by the i3. I suggest you upgrade to AT LEAST a Xeon E3-1231v3.

 

Your PSU draws as much as the system does + efficiency factor. Don't worry about it.

[1Cup1Tea]

2 minutes ago, waynec94 said:

Hello! Been lurking here a fair bit before this, only am taking the time now to sign up and post! Greetings from Kuala Lumpur!

 

A little bit of specs:

 

i3 4150

8 gigs of DDR3 RAM

240 gigs of HyperX SSD

850W PSU (CM Modular)

3 gigs of assorted HDDs

Gigabyte 980TI Xtreme Gaming

Dual 1080p displays

 

in the past my rig has been sporting a GTX 760 by leadtek, decided it's time to upgrade seeing that the 10 series graphics cards are out which led to 980TI's drop in price (it was in the ballpark of my budget)

 

However I am noticing a rather close to negligible improvement in gaming performance, I used to run BF4 (single monitor, 1080p) multiplayer 64 players map on high settings with decent 90+ fps with the 760, however now that I'm using the 980TI, I seem to be getting only about 39 (minimum) to 79 (max) FPS on ultra.

 

With Witcher 3, too. My fps count never really goes beyond 65-ish with hairworks off, the rest maxed out.

 

Wondering if this could be a case of bottlenecking? If so, what is a decent CPU that I should consider upgrading to?

 

By the way a side question, I have an 850W PSU, wondering if my PSU draws 850W 24/7 even at idle? Or it only draws whatever power that is needed? 

 

Thanks!

It should be better than a Core 2 Extreme QX9770 at 4.3ghz right? i got max GPU usage on that CPU with my 1080 when i pushed the resolution slide to 150%.

Maybe it's the lack of 4 real cores?

[PlayStation 2]

1 minute ago, 1Cup1Tea said:

It should be better than a Core 2 Extreme QX9770 at 4.3ghz right? i got max GPU usage on that CPU with my 1080 when i pushed the resolution slide to 150%.

Maybe it's the lack of 4 real cores?

It's the games he's playing. Both can definitely push a CPU to its limit.

[waynec94]

5 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

You are pushing the CPU to its limit in both games.

No, the PSU only draws what it needs to. It'll never draw 850 watts at idle.

 

5 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Yes, your GTX 980Ti is being bottlenecked quite heavily by the i3. I suggest you upgrade to AT LEAST a Xeon E3-1231v3.

 

Your PSU draws as much as the system does + efficiency factor. Don't worry about it.

wat? Xeon? srsly? 

Will an upgrade to say i5 4670 be of huge benefit? What about the difference between the performance in gaming between i7 4790 and 4670? A huge jump or i5 is really already enough?

4 minutes ago, 1Cup1Tea said:

It should be better than a Core 2 Extreme QX9770 at 4.3ghz right? i got max GPU usage on that CPU with my 1080 when i pushed the resolution slide to 150%.

Maybe it's the lack of 4 real cores?

I guess hyperthreading IS really that much inferior to actual cores?

[GarnetDevil]

Both BF4 and Witcher 3 are CPU-stressed game, so no surprise if the 980 Ti bottlenecks the i3 since the CPU is always being pushed to its max

[1Cup1Tea]

Just now, waynec94 said:

 

wat? Xeon? srsly? 

Will an upgrade to say i5 4670 be of huge benefit? What about the difference between the performance in gaming between i7 4790 and 4670? A huge jump or i5 is really already enough?

I guess hyperthreading IS really that much inferior to actual cores?

Can you get anything better? what budget do you have? where do you live?

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, waynec94 said:

I guess hyperthreading IS really that much inferior to actual cores?

Hell no. The i3 bitch slaps the C2Q in many games.

[ace_cheaply]

3 minutes ago, waynec94 said:

 

wat? Xeon? srsly? 

Will an upgrade to say i5 4670 be of huge benefit? What about the difference between the performance in gaming between i7 4790 and 4670? A huge jump or i5 is really already enough?

I guess hyperthreading IS really that much inferior to actual cores?

An E3 1231 V3 is a I7 4790 without an integrated gpu.  It's better than a 4670, and 4690. The 4690K can overclock if you have a z97 board.  With a 980ti, you really need the i7 with hyperthreading to get the most out of it. 

[Morgan MLGman]

3 minutes ago, waynec94 said:

 

wat? Xeon? srsly? 

Will an upgrade to say i5 4670 be of huge benefit? What about the difference between the performance in gaming between i7 4790 and 4670? A huge jump or i5 is really already enough?

I guess hyperthreading IS really that much inferior to actual cores?

Yes, Xeon. Xeon E3-1231v3 is the cheapest LGA1150 i7 you can buy. It's an i7-4770 without integrated graphics. You would not need to upgrade the motherboard if you bought it.

 

And yes, the i5-4570 will be MUCH better, it still will bottleneck in some games.

[waynec94]

6 minutes ago, 1Cup1Tea said:

Can you get anything better? what budget do you have? where do you live?

I'm from the land where many processors are made, Malaysia. below US 250 would be ideal.

[ace_cheaply]

2 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Yes, Xeon. Xeon E3-1231v3 is the cheapest LGA1150 i7 you can buy. It's an i7-4770 without integrated graphics. You would not need to upgrade the motherboard if you bought it.

 

And yes, the i5-4570 will be MUCH better, it still will bottleneck in some games.

Especially games like...you guessed it... GTA V and Witcher 3.

[1Cup1Tea]

4 minutes ago, waynec94 said:

I'm from the land where many processors are made, Malaysia. below US 250 would be ideal.

The Xeon is the best idea to be honest.

[ARikozuM]

5 minutes ago, waynec94 said:

I'm from the land where many processors are made, Malaysia. below US 250 would be ideal.

Getting an i5 would be your best bet then if you want to stay on the same mobo. A 4690 non-K would be in your price range, right?

 

Also, BF4 (Physics heavy) and TW3 (AI heavy) are both CPU heavy and although hyperthreading is helping you with intelligent scheduling of processes having four physical cores should alleviate a lot of the strain from your CPU.