I5 6600k Mobo

[Littlelaner]

Hey guys, I was looking at CPU upgrades and decided on I5 6600. Then just recently came across an I5 6600k for the exact same price (without a stock cooler). Im fairly new to the PC community and wondering if I should get the 6600k and add a hyper 212 Evo to cool it, or if that would be a waste of time as I wouldn't be overclocking it (for now) as I'm not quite comfortable with that seeing as I have no clue how that is done. Also was reading in the reviews of the 6600k that I need to buy a Z170 Mobo to do any overclocking, and that may be out of my budget. Need help on what to do.

Thanks.  

[TrigrH]

3 minutes ago, Littlelaner said:

Hey guys, I was looking at CPU upgrades and decided on I5 6600. Then just recently came across an I5 6600k for the exact same price (without a stock cooler). Im fairly new to the PC community and wondering if I should get the 6600k and add a hyper 212 Evo to cool it, or if that would be a waste of time as I wouldn't be overclocking it (for now) as I'm not quite comfortable with that seeing as I have no clue how that is done. Also was reading in the reviews of the 6600k that I need to buy a Z170 Mobo to do any overclocking, and that may be out of my budget. Need help on what to do.

Thanks.  

squeeze for the 6600k, 212, and a cheap Z170 it will be worth it in the future.

[Littlelaner]

4 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

squeeze for the 6600k, 212, and a cheap Z170 it will be worth it in the future.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/P2dQZ8

Avoid all the other garbage, but is the motherboard I picked out good enough? Cheapest Z170 I found in my 10 seconds of searching. 

[TrigrH]

3 minutes ago, Littlelaner said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/P2dQZ8

Avoid all the other garbage, but is the motherboard I picked out good enough? Cheapest Z170 I found in my 10 seconds of searching. 

that board should be fine, BTW:

1. that keyboard is total shit imo

2. id get a better PSU: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze

3. Either wait for a the custom model RX480s or get this one (its cheaper): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1262547-REG/asus_rx480_8g_radeon_rx_480_8gb.html

4. id get windows from kinguin and save a few bucks.

 

[Streetguru]

20 minutes ago, Littlelaner said:

 

I'd just suggest the i7 6700 with a budget board over the overclockable i5, although you are seemingly getting it for a decent discount, the 8 thread CPU will probably never really need to be replaced

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hswwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hswwP/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($297.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($63.98 @ Newegg)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9DsRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9DsRB/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)

[Littlelaner]

18 hours ago, Streetguru said:

I'd just suggest the i7 6700 with a budget board over the overclockable i5, although you are seemingly getting it for a decent discount, the 8 thread CPU will probably never really need to be replaced

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hswwP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hswwP/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($297.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($63.98 @ Newegg)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9DsRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9DsRB/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)

What is your best guess as to how long the i7 6700 would last, as opposed to the i5 6600k or even non k?

[Streetguru]

2 hours ago, Littlelaner said:

What is your best guess as to how long the i7 6700 would last, as opposed to the i5 6600k or even non k?

Just look at the i7 2600/K man, the 6700 turbos to 4ghz, can't get too much faster than that per core, so the K i7 isn't really worth it. Even something like the i7 9xx is still pretty alright. 

Aside from that it's 4 threads vs 8 threads for the i5/i7, DX12/Vulkan do a lot of make games use up to 8 threads, it's keeping the FX 8 cores relevant for how poor their per core performance is.

 

If you get the i5 and OC it to 4.5ghz yes it's faster per core, but the i7 double it's threads for roughly 50% gain in multi-threaded applications, making it faster in the long run and better at multi-tasking in general if you were to say record game footage.

[Littlelaner]

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Just look at the i7 2600/K man, the 6700 turbos to 4ghz, can't get too much faster than that per core, so the K i7 isn't really worth it. Even something like the i7 9xx is still pretty alright. 

Aside from that it's 4 threads vs 8 threads for the i5/i7, DX12/Vulkan do a lot of make games use up to 8 threads, it's keeping the FX 8 cores relevant for how poor their per core performance is.

 

If you get the i5 and OC it to 4.5ghz yes it's faster per core, but the i7 double it's threads for roughly 50% gain in multi-threaded applications, making it faster in the long run and better at multi-tasking in general if you were to say record game footage.

You may or may not be a sales person, but if you were and we were in a store, you would have sold me. My only concern is that I would be paying for something the fulfills my needs almost too much. I play games on my PC and once the 1060 benchmarks are released and I decide between that and the 480 I will have my setup complete (with the purchase of what we are talking about right now) but besides that I do not do much else. Photo and video editing are both interests of mine, but I have not taken any steps towards doing anything with those interests, partly due to the fact I am a student and have a limited budget. 

 

Long story short. I want to know if the i7 6700 is worth it in every way. I have done some minor research and found that for just gaming it is maybe overkill, but if it will keep my system relevant for many years to come, than I feel that is the right purchase to make. What  are your thoughts?

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, Littlelaner said:

Long story short. I want to know if the i7 6700 is worth it in every way.

If you do get the i5, and want the i7 later, be it skylake or kaby lake, that's going to be another $300 bucks, instead of spending the extra, $100 or less to get the extra 4 threads today

It is overkill sure, but it's just one of those, might as well kinda things. Are you even planning to use any of the features an H170 or Z170 board gives you aside from overclocking? Like the extra PCI-e or Sata?

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Also on that 1060 front, don't forget nvidia removed the ability to SLI them if you were planning on giving 2 GPUs a go in the future. At least it seems they did, would have to see tomorrow.

the 1060 should be faster in DX11 games to be sure, at least it should be for most games, I'd say the 480 is more if you want to play the long game with DX12/Vulkan. Also comes with more VRAM for a bit less cash, least it should in the end.

Also what's your display? And were you going to get a high refresh rate adaptive sync display? because free-sync is a good deal cheaper than G-sync

[Littlelaner]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

If you do get the i5, and want the i7 later, be it skylake or kaby lake, that's going to be another $300 bucks, instead of spending the extra, $100 or less to get the extra 4 threads today

It is overkill sure, but it's just one of those, might as well kinda things. Are you even planning to use any of the features an H170 or Z170 board gives you aside from overclocking? Like the extra PCI-e or Sata?

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Also on that 1060 front, don't forget nvidia removed the ability to SLI them if you were planning on giving 2 GPUs a go in the future. At least it seems they did, would have to see tomorrow.

the 1060 should be faster in DX11 games to be sure, at least it should be for most games, I'd say the 480 is more if you want to play the long game with DX12/Vulkan. Also comes with more VRAM for a bit less cash, least it should in the end.

Also what's your display? And were you going to get a high refresh rate adaptive sync display? because free-sync is a good deal cheaper than G-sync

I think your right, sounds like i7 it is.. I had not planned to use the extra slots no, I have a pci-e wifi card because ethernet is not available where my room is in my house. SLI is not something I have considered and probably won't for a long time if ever. 

 

My display is a  Acer R240HY bidx 23.8" 60Hz Monitor . I would like to upgrade that as well, but cash might be a little tight to get that one done. I like the thought of having an ultrawide, but also a 1440p monitor would be nice, so who knows. 

 

I am also torn on graphics cards when I upgrade, (my description has pre-emptively been updated-> I was bored and thought thats what I was going to get). Guess we will know more tomorrow on what I should do, but I was thinking the 8gb 480 would be the better deal, as more VRam the better( I think?) and DX 12 should help me out in the long run. 

[Littlelaner]

On 7/18/2016 at 11:18 PM, Streetguru said:

If you do get the i5, and want the i7 later, be it skylake or kaby lake, that's going to be another $300 bucks, instead of spending the extra, $100 or less to get the extra 4 threads today

It is overkill sure, but it's just one of those, might as well kinda things. Are you even planning to use any of the features an H170 or Z170 board gives you aside from overclocking? Like the extra PCI-e or Sata?

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Also on that 1060 front, don't forget nvidia removed the ability to SLI them if you were planning on giving 2 GPUs a go in the future. At least it seems they did, would have to see tomorrow.

the 1060 should be faster in DX11 games to be sure, at least it should be for most games, I'd say the 480 is more if you want to play the long game with DX12/Vulkan. Also comes with more VRAM for a bit less cash, least it should in the end.

Also what's your display? And were you going to get a high refresh rate adaptive sync display? because free-sync is a good deal cheaper than G-sync

Update.

 

I decided on the i7 6700 and think 8gb of Ram will be good enough for now, and will probably just get another 8gb for my birthday or Christmas or something. I do need to however find a good motherboard, or good enough I should say. I've been doing research on graphics cards and while the 1060 is killing it right now, I believe the 480 8gb is more tailored for me due to the fact that I think it will be a better card in the long run, and the ability to add another one into SLI configuration is quite intriguing. This brings me to which motherboard I should get if I want to be able to put 2 cards into the picture. What are your thoughts? Trying to keep it under $100 CAD. 

[Streetguru]

18 hours ago, Littlelaner said:

Update.

1060 ended up only about 10% faster in DX11, 480 about 10% faster in DX12/Vulkan on average. Looking at the past with the 7950 vs 780 ti, the 780ti started ahead, with the 7950 catching up and surpassing it through driver improvements, should be the case with the 480, plus AMD needs to close the performance gap in drivers if they can anyways.

 

You also of course want to wait for after market 480s, Sapphire and ASUS have announced some
 

$109 H170 USB 3.1 with crossfire support, luckily crossfire lets you run it on boards with x4 on the second slot, and PCI-e gen 3.0 x4 shouldn't really impact performance. You'll just want a 750W decent PSU if you can get it of course, $119 EVGA PSU below

Just look around for more reviews, but it should be a solid board overall
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157683&cm_re=ASRock_H170A-X1%2f3.1-_-13-157-683-_-Product

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/rt8H99/evga-power-supply-210gq0750

Both the 650W and 850W varients are 9+/10s on jonnyguru
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=454

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=451