Need help with a rendering build

[Midnitewarrior4]

So I'm planning a rendering build, so far this is what I have, I want to get rid of the things that aren't needed, no gaming will be done on this, just rendering 1080p videos. BTW does Sony Vegas use gpu acceleration ? And is it worth the extra for the gpu that I have picked ? Trying to keep the cost down

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sgByXH

And that is the hyperthreaded xeon

[2FA]

Sony Vegas does use GPU acceleration and it does OpenCL better than CUDA in it.

[desertcomputer]

Go with 480? if you going to use Sony Vegas. 

[LordMastodon]

If you would really like to cut costs, I would look at a mini-ITX system. They tend to be a lot cheaper, and for what you have here it could work just fine.

 

For video rendering, the 750 Ti is old and kind of shit. For cheap, I'd maybe go with a 980 or a 980 Ti for a bit more.

 

If you are only doing rendering here and plan to offload all footage after it is rendered/edited, you really don't need that hard drive, and with the money you could go for a 480 GB SSD.

[brob]

Sony Vegas can use a gpu to accelerate rendering with particular codecs. Most reports suggest that AMD gpu hold a slight edge in this area. But I don't have any hard benchmarks comparing something like a GTX 750 Ti and R7 360 that might confirm this.

 

You might consider the new Corsair CXM-550 psu. I believe it is around the same cost as the EVGA unit in your list. Which is the only reason I would suggest such a large unit.

 

[Midnitewarrior4]

13 hours ago, LordMastodon said:

If you would really like to cut costs, I would look at a mini-ITX system. They tend to be a lot cheaper, and for what you have here it could work just fine.

 

For video rendering, the 750 Ti is old and kind of shit. For cheap, I'd maybe go with a 980 or a 980 Ti for a bit more.

 

If you are only doing rendering here and plan to offload all footage after it is rendered/edited, you really don't need that hard drive, and with the money you could go for a 480 GB SSD.

Go to a 980ti from a 750 ti to for "a bit more" ? The 750 I'd what 160$ while the 980ti is 700-800 ? 

 

 

Also mini itx is more $ than atx   motherboards cost alot more, case cost more, if anything micro at is cheaper but the board I  chose was still cheaper then a micro atx  and the case well, it's not anything special and its cheap

[Midnitewarrior4]

13 hours ago, brob said:

Sony Vegas can use a gpu to accelerate rendering with particular codecs. Most reports suggest that AMD gpu hold a slight edge in this area. But I don't have any hard benchmarks comparing something like a GTX 750 Ti and R7 360 that might confirm this.

 

You might consider the new Corsair CXM-550 psu. I believe it is around the same cost as the EVGA unit in your list. Which is the only reason I would suggest such a large unit.

 

OK,  how much would the gpu help ? Is it even worth it to put the money towards one ?  It's a client build and he doesn't want to spend more then he has to but wants a good bang for the buck rendering system (performs good without anything unecessary, not a budget build, sometimes people get the wrong idea)

[LordMastodon]

2 hours ago, Midnitewarrior4 said:

Go to a 980ti from a 750 ti to for "a bit more" ? The 750 I'd what 160$ while the 980ti is 700-800 ? 

 

 

Also mini itx is more $ than atx   motherboards cost alot more, case cost more, if anything micro at is cheaper but the board I  chose was still cheaper then a micro atx  and the case well, it's not anything special and its cheap

 

Oh, sorry if you misunderstood, by "a bit more" I meant from the 980 to the 980 Ti. Yeah, maybe you could go with a 970 or even a 960? It's just that the 750 Ti is really outdated.

 

As for mini-ITX, I'd really quite like to see those numbers that you found that suggest that it is more expensive than ATX, because you may be misunderstanding me here. Independently I researched some prices, and this is what I found:

 

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX: $169.99 (Newegg)

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX: $69.99 (Newegg)

 

Corsair 750D: $139.99 (Newegg)

Corsair 250D: $84.99 (Newegg)

 

However, that's cases. The principle seems to not apply with motherboards, and Asrock's own mini-ITX LGA1150 motherboard is $25 (Newegg) more. However, as you can see with the savings above, you could put some of that money to the motherboard and you'd be better off anyway. On both of those cases, the savings was above $50. The motherboard is only $25 more. You'd still be $25 better off even if you went with the Corsair case (not that you have to or should or anything), and you wanted to cut costs as much as possible. If you went with the Phanteks case (again, you don't have to, just an example), you'd be $75 better off at the end, which is a pretty nice savings for something that in the end is an even better product (in my opinion) because it takes up less space.

[brob]

13 hours ago, Midnitewarrior4 said:

OK,  how much would the gpu help ? Is it even worth it to put the money towards one ?  It's a client build and he doesn't want to spend more then he has to but wants a good bang for the buck rendering system (performs good without anything unecessary, not a budget build, sometimes people get the wrong idea)

I cannot provide any hard numbers. Not even estimates. There are simply too many variables at play. How much a gpu contributes depends on a number of factors. It is safe to say that gpu are necessary to achieve better than 1:1 rendering speeds.

 

One important consideration is the encoder that will be used. If the client is using Mainconcept AVC, older GTX (i.e. pre 600 series) are fine. But the codec will not provide any cost effective benefit with newer GTX. (It is old and has not been updated.) If the client is using the Sony AVC then AMD are a better choice for their superior OpenCL implementation.

 

[Midnitewarrior4]

On 14/07/2016 at 0:53 AM, LordMastodon said:

Oh, sorry if you misunderstood, by "a bit more" I meant from the 980 to the 980 Ti. Yeah, maybe you could go with a 970 or even a 960? It's just that the 750 Ti is really outdated.

 

As for mini-ITX, I'd really quite like to see those numbers that you found that suggest that it is more expensive than ATX, because you may be misunderstanding me here. Independently I researched some prices, and this is what I found:

 

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX: $169.99 (Newegg)

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX: $69.99 (Newegg)

 

Corsair 750D: $139.99 (Newegg)

Corsair 250D: $84.99 (Newegg)

 

However, that's cases. The principle seems to not apply with motherboards, and Asrock's own mini-ITX LGA1150 motherboard is $25 (Newegg) more. However, as you can see with the savings above, you could put some of that money to the motherboard and you'd be better off anyway. On both of those cases, the savings was above $50. The motherboard is only $25 more. You'd still be $25 better off even if you went with the Corsair case (not that you have to or should or anything), and you wanted to cut costs as much as possible. If you went with the Phanteks case (again, you don't have to, just an example), you'd be $75 better off at the end, which is a pretty nice savings for something that in the end is an even better product (in my opinion) because it takes up less space.

Ya but the case I'm going with is only 40$ so still be spending more my next personal build will be mini itx or M atx  they just look clean and it's nice to have something a little smaller that doesn't take up much space

[LordMastodon]

OK then. I suppose whatever floats your boat.