Should I go Crossfire or ITX?

[EdwardBrown]

Crossfire on mATX or reap the benefits of ITX?

[Imakuni]

1 minute ago, EdwardBrown said:

Crossfire on mATX or reap the benefits of ITX?

ITX + Single 1070 / 1080 > CF mATX. That's an easy choice.

[ELSknutson]

Itx

[NinjaJc01]

5 minutes ago, EdwardBrown said:

Crossfire on mATX or reap the benefits of ITX?

MATX with single GPU, then you can get some nice other expansion cards.

[EdwardBrown]

1 minute ago, NinjaJc01 said:

MATX with single GPU, then you can get some nice other expansion cards.

I guess im not really interested in other cards - SSDs I guess but nah.

[NinjaJc01]

2 minutes ago, EdwardBrown said:

I guess im not really interested in other cards - SSDs I guess but nah.

SSDs with SATA expansion card?

[manikyath]

you honestly shouldnt be doing CF/SLI in a matx formfactor anyways.

[Dark]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

you honestly shouldnt be doing CF/SLI in a matx formfactor anyways.

Why?

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Dark said:

Why?

because things will more than likely be too tight to have "pleasing" thermals.

[arnavvr]

6 minutes ago, manikyath said:

because things will more than likely be too tight to have "pleasing" thermals.

Watercool.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, arnavvr said:

Watercool.

if OP was considering that i doubt this topic would be a thing.

[Dark]

8 minutes ago, manikyath said:

because things will more than likely be too tight to have "pleasing" thermals.

That's speculation. Not a reason to say not to. 

Let alone, lots of matx boards leave a slot between the two gpus.

[Syntaxvgm]

11 minutes ago, manikyath said:

because things will more than likely be too tight to have "pleasing" thermals.

nonsense lol. You can have a slot inbetween, and even without you can at least get blower cards. 

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Dark said:

That's speculation. Not a reason to say not to. 

Let alone, lots of matx boards leave a slot between the two gpus.

which means you need a 5-slot case, and will pretty much be pressing the bottom gpu against the psu or bottom of the case.

 

unless going custom loop it's not worth the 4cm extra height you'd save over going full atx.

[Dark]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

which means you need a 5-slot case, and will pretty much be pressing the bottom gpu against the psu or bottom of the case.

 

unless going custom loop it's not worth the 4cm extra height you'd save over going full atx.

Again, speculation that the lower card will not have 'pleasing' temperatures.

 

I've ran similar setups with 780ti's, 980's, and titan x's.  Temperatures were always relative to their fan speed and nearly identical as I moved from matx to atx.

 

I'm sure you can create the scenario where the temperatures are unfavorable, that's easy.

[Syntaxvgm]

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

which means you need a 5-slot case, and will pretty much be pressing the bottom gpu against the psu or bottom of the case.

 

unless going custom loop it's not worth the 4cm extra height you'd save over going full atx.

TIL you need to buy a case that accommodates what you intend to put in it.

 

I can see the problems, especially with non-blowers, but if you plan right itll be fine. Hell blower cards itll be fine anyway with no planning. Actually, the biggest problem with matx is a lot of non-reference cards are larger than 2 slots slightly, and some people don't pay attention to that. Otherwise there are plenty of cube cases with mesh sides, space on the bottom in vertical, and ones with power supply below gpus. You are absolutely right about a lot of matx cases being 4 slot tho 

[EdwardBrown]

9 minutes ago, manikyath said:

if OP was considering that i doubt this topic would be a thing.

I might consider water cooled CPU not GPU.

[ismma99]

2 minutes ago, Dark said:

Again, speculation that the lower card will not have 'pleasing' temperatures.

 

I've ran similar setups with 780ti's, 980's, and titan x's.  Temperatures were always relative to their fan speed and nearly identical as I moved from matx to atx.

 

I'm sure you can create the scenario where the temperatures are unfavorable, that's easy.

tho i think maniykath meant for this scenario tbh it feels like it

[ismma99]

2 minutes ago, EdwardBrown said:

I might consider water cooled CPU not GPU.

exactly since water blocks are expensive unless you go 420 blaze on ghetto water cooling hehe

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

TIL you need to buy a case that accommodates what you intend to put in it.

 

I can see the problems, especially with non-blowers, but if you plan right itll be fine. Hell blower cards itll be fine anyway with no planning. Actually, the biggest problem with matx is a lot of non-reference cards are larger than 2 slots slightly, and some people don't pay attention to that. Otherwise there are plenty of cube cases with mesh sides, space on the bottom in vertical, and ones with power supply below gpus. 

the thing is, you're limiting yourself over 4cm of case height, if not for the extremely tight scenarios with custom watercooling, just get the bigger thing, and have plenty of room.

[Syntaxvgm]

8 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the thing is, you're limiting yourself over 4cm of case height, if not for the extremely tight scenarios with custom watercooling, just get the bigger thing, and have plenty of room.

matx is an odd form factor. I had an itx build until recently, I might rebuild that, and while it was big for an itx case, and a shitty case, I enjoyed carrying the 380t, for a while I carried it daily. Wouldn't do much bigger than that. My workstation is a cm storm trooper, huge and heavy as fuck. Nice case.  Would not carry it anywhere unless I had too. I really don't know where matx fits on that for me- is the scenario I really want 2 gpus, but I lan? I mean when I was on itx what I missed more was pci slot for expansion other than gpu (my workstation has a micomsoft capture card, for example) and more than 2 memory slots, so I can see going matx, but not so much for 2 gpus. Im hopefully attending the next lan syndicate, and I"m just gonna throw together an itx rig in that 380t. It's a lan party, your PC needs to game not like crush benchmarks. 

[manikyath]

4 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

matx is an odd form factor. I had an itx build until recently, I might rebuild that, and while it was big for an itx case, and a shitty case, I enjoyed carrying the 380t, for a while I carried it daily. Wouldn't do much bigger than that. My workstation is a cm storm trooper, huge and heavy as fuck. Nice case.  Would not carry it anywhere unless I had too. I really don't know where matx fits on that for me- is the scenario I really want 2 gpus, but I lan? I mean when I was on itx what I missed more was pci slot for expansion other than gpu (my workstation has a micomsoft capture card, for example) and more than 2 memory slots, so I can see going matx, but not so much for 2 gpus. Im hopefully attending the next lan syndicate, and I"m just gonna throw together an itx rig in that 380t. It's a lan party, your PC needs to game not like crush benchmarks. 

my server is a matx form factor, and honestly matx suits the "tiny builds" quite nicely, if you dont want to be limited to the extremely small size of mitx, but the small formfactors where it really shines does defenately not lign up with dual-GPU solutions or other high wattage enviroments.

 

i just realised my brain went jello half way trough typing that, i'm not even gonna try to fix it, and just hit the bed

[Dark]

14 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the thing is, you're limiting yourself over 4cm of case height, if not for the extremely tight scenarios with custom watercooling, just get the bigger thing, and have plenty of room.

There are plenty of benefits with going ATX but the OP made no mention of it being an option.

[EdwardBrown]

37 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

matx is an odd form factor. I had an itx build until recently, I might rebuild that, and while it was big for an itx case, and a shitty case, I enjoyed carrying the 380t, for a while I carried it daily. Wouldn't do much bigger than that. My workstation is a cm storm trooper, huge and heavy as fuck. Nice case.  Would not carry it anywhere unless I had too. I really don't know where matx fits on that for me- is the scenario I really want 2 gpus, but I lan? I mean when I was on itx what I missed more was pci slot for expansion other than gpu (my workstation has a micomsoft capture card, for example) and more than 2 memory slots, so I can see going matx, but not so much for 2 gpus. Im hopefully attending the next lan syndicate, and I"m just gonna throw together an itx rig in that 380t. It's a lan party, your PC needs to game not like crush benchmarks. 

Which case?

[Syntaxvgm]

26 minutes ago, EdwardBrown said:

Which case?

the itx build? Corsiar 380t