Storage Question - Can it work?

[Yahtadi]

If i am going to use all these: Intel 750 480 GB SSD PCIe(as boot), 2x Samsung M.2(raid 0) and Intel 750 NVMe as my storage in one board(say.. G1 board)? Is that possible? Is this going to work?
Sorry if this such a nubbies question

[Senzelian]

It depends a lot on the specific board.
Some boards disable certain PCI-e slots if you use certain M.2 or SATA ports - or the other way around.

But overall this should work at least on the newer Z170 platform, since you will be getting 20 PCI-e lanes over the DMI interface.

[Yahtadi]

7 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

It depends a lot on the specific board.
Some boards disable certain PCI-e slots if you use certain M.2 or SATA ports - or the other way around.

But overall this should work at least on the newer Z170 platform, since you will be getting 20 PCI-e lanes over the DMI interface.

Looks like i am gonna go with LGA 1151 Z170 GA-Z170X-Gaming G1 from Gigabyte because apparently it had 2 slot for M.2 and it also raid support
So.. back to my question.. Are those storage things can work in that board?
Also.. I dont know what kind of storage NVMe is? Is that using SATA Cable or PCIe Cable even or what?

[Senzelian]

1 minute ago, Yahtadi said:

Looks like i am gonna go with LGA 1151 Z170 GA-Z170X-Gaming G1 from Gigabyte because apparently it had 2 slot for M.2 and it also raid support
So.. back to my question.. Are those storage things can work in that board?
Also.. I dont know what kind of storage NVMe is? Is that using SATA Cable or PCIe Cable even or what?

NVMe is just a protocol like AHCI.
You can make it work on pretty much any interface - SATA, PCI-e, M.2, USB - it doesn't matter...
I'll have to look it up if that storage configuration works. Will take a while...

[Yahtadi]

1 minute ago, Senzelian said:

NVMe is just a protocol like AHCI.
You can make it work on pretty much any interface - SATA, PCI-e, M.2, USB - it doesn't matter...
I'll have to look it up if that storage configuration works. Will take a while...

Thanks, much appreciated!

[Senzelian]

19 minutes ago, Yahtadi said:

Thanks, much appreciated!

So, here's the deal...

You will be able to install all of your storage, but

• you're only able to use M.2 PCI-e SSDs in RAID and not M.2 SATA SSDs.
• by using both M.2 slots in RAID you will lose the SATA3_4, SATA3_6 and SATA3_7 connectors. You won't be able to use those.

So make sure your Samsung M.2 SSDs are PCI-e SSDs and not SATA SSDs and make sure you won't be using more than four drives connected over the SATA interface in the future.

 

Here you can download the motherboard manual:

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwicn5j3g-fNAhXC0RQKHWfRApYQFgglMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.gigabyte.eu%2FFileList%2FManual%2Fmb_manual_ga-z170x-gaming-g1_e.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEk9EgFA_WAhmyE5QGe80cy3858zA&sig2=Df0gsOQGIkj7mdNVyhCM7A

 

Btw.:
Were you talking about the Intel 730 480GB SSD? Cause a Intel 750 480GB SSD doesn't exist.

[Yahtadi]

43 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

So, here's the deal...

You will be able to install all of your storage, but

• you're only able to use M.2 PCI-e SSDs in RAID and not M.2 SATA SSDs.
• by using both M.2 slots in RAID you will lose the SATA3_4, SATA3_6 and SATA3_7 connectors. You won't be able to use those.

So make sure your Samsung M.2 SSDs are PCI-e SSDs and not SATA SSDs and make sure you won't be using more than four drives connected over the SATA interface in the future.

 

Here you can download the motherboard manual:

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwicn5j3g-fNAhXC0RQKHWfRApYQFgglMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.gigabyte.eu%2FFileList%2FManual%2Fmb_manual_ga-z170x-gaming-g1_e.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEk9EgFA_WAhmyE5QGe80cy3858zA&sig2=Df0gsOQGIkj7mdNVyhCM7A

Is this logic rite?

[Senzelian]

6 minutes ago, Yahtadi said:

Is this logic rite?

Nope.

1. Is not going to work, because a Intel 750 480GB PCI-e SSD doesn't exist. There are only two Intel 700 series SSDs in that capacity range.

• Intel 730 480GB AHCI SATA SSD
• Intel 750 400GB NVME PCI-E SSD

2. Absolutly correct.

 

3. There are no NVME drives that connect to SATA. You need a PCI-e, U.2 or M.2 connector to use a NVMe drive.

[Yahtadi]

13 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Nope.

1. Is not going to work, because a Intel 750 480GB PCI-e SSD doesn't exist. There are only two Intel 700 series SSDs:

• Intel 730 480GB AHCI SATA SSD
• Intel 750 400GB NVME PCI-E SSD

2. Absolutly correct.

 

3. There are no NVME drives that connect to SATA. You need a PCI-e, U.2 or M.2 connector to use a NVMe drive.

How about this? Sorry if my post cost you much trouble my good man

[Senzelian]

5 minutes ago, Yahtadi said:

How about this? Sorry if my post cost you much trouble my good man

1. Yup

 

2. Yup

 

3/4. Do you realize that your 750 400GB Intel SSD is a NVM-e SSD? Why do you want another one? And if you want another one, why don't you buy another 750 Series SSD? Cause otherwise there is no way to get this work, other than a different motherboard.

[Yahtadi]

2 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

3/4. Do you realize that your 750 400GB Intel SSD is a NVM-e SSD? Why do you want a nother one? And if you want a nother one, why don't you buy another 750 Series SSD?

My reason:
1. Just wondering
2. Just wanted to use all different kind storage(its same its biased etc i know but still..) in one system
I really want to put all these:  PCI-e, M.2, NVM-e, 2.5 SSD and 3.5 HDD into one system, impossible isnt it?

[Senzelian]

3 minutes ago, Yahtadi said:

My reason:
1. Just wondering
2. Just wanted to use all different kind storage(its same its biased etc i know but still..) in one system
I really want to put all these:  PCI-e, M.2, NVM-e, 2.5 SSD and 3.5 HDD into one system, impossible isnt it?

It's not impossible. You can do it on that board, by using 

• 1x Intel 750 Series PCI-e NVMe SSD
• 1x 2.5'' AHCI SATA SSD
• 1x 3.5'' AHCI SATA HDD
• 1x M.2 AHCI/NVMe PCI-e SSD

Then you got everything at once.

 

[Yahtadi]

3 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

It's not impossible. You can do it on that board, by using 

• 1x Intel 750 Series PCI-e NVMe SSD
• 1x 2.5'' AHCI SATA SSD
• 1x 3.5'' AHCI SATA HDD
• 1x M.2 AHCI/NVMe PCI-e SSD

Then you got everything at once.

 

Solved! I get it now
Altho i really want to use 2x M.2 PCI-e(Raid 0) but still could be any Intel 1.2 TB NVM-e SSD hangin around
Many thanks man
Is there any board with 3x M.2 connectors outthere? Please dont laugh

[Senzelian]

3 minutes ago, Yahtadi said:

Solved! I get it now
Altho i really want to use 2x M.2 PCI-e(Raid 0) but still could be any Intel 1.2 TB NVM-e SSD hangin around
Many thanks man
Is there any board with 3x M.2 connectors outthere? Please dont laugh

Don't worry. I laughed already when I saw your first post about this topic

But there are exactly three boards with 3 M.2 slots:

• AsRock Fatal1ty Z170 Professional Gaming i7
• AsRock Z170 Extreme7+
• Gigabyte GA-Z170X-SOC Force

But please don't ask me about their storage configurations 

[Yahtadi]

9 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Don't worry. I laughed already when I saw your first post about this topic

But there are exactly three boards with 3 M.2 slots:

• AsRock Fatal1ty Z170 Professional Gaming i7
• AsRock Z170 Extreme7+
• Gigabyte GA-Z170X-SOC Force

But please don't ask me about their storage configurations 

Last last please
 

• 1x Intel 750 Series 400GB PCI-e NVMe SSD(as a boot)  http://amzn.to/1BRJ1iU
• 2x Samsung 950 Pro M.2 PCI-e SSD In Raid 0  https://amzn.com/B01639694M
• 1x Intel 750 Series 1.2TB PCI-e NVMe SSD  https://amzn.com/B011I61FU8

This is the storage config i really wanted to work, could this be done in any way on those mobo?

[Senzelian]

2 minutes ago, Yahtadi said:

Last last please
 

• 1x Intel 750 Series 400GB PCI-e NVMe SSD(as a boot)  http://amzn.to/1BRJ1iU
• 2x Samsung 950 Pro M.2 PCI-e SSD In Raid 0  https://amzn.com/B01639694M
• 1x Intel 750 Series 1.2TB PCI-e NVMe SSD  https://amzn.com/B011I61FU8

This is the storage config i really wanted to work, could this be done in any way on those mobo?

This should work fine. You'll get 8 PCI-e lanes from your CPU for the two M.2 devices and another 8 lanes from the DMI interface over the chipset.
But it won't be easy to set up. You'll probably encounter some bugs and problems. So take your time if you actually want to set up that storage config.

 

Btw.: I don't think I have to tell you that, but that is going to be a large waste of money

[Yahtadi]

2 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

This should work fine. You'll get 8 PCI-e lanes from your CPU for the two M.2 devices and another 8 lanes from the DMI interface over the chipset.
But it won't be easy to set up. You'll probably encounter some bugs and problems. So take your time if you actually want to set up that storage config.

 

Btw.: I don't think I have to tell you that, but that is going to be a large waste of money

• 1x Intel 750 Series 400GB PCI-e NVMe SSD(as a boot)  http://amzn.to/1BRJ1iU
• 2x Samsung 950 Pro M.2 PCI-e SSD In Raid 0  https://amzn.com/B01639694M
• 1x Intel 750 Series 1.2TB PCI-e NVMe SSD  https://amzn.com/B011I61FU8

Are those storage config really could not be done in LGA 1151 Z170 GA-Z170X-Gaming G1 from Gigabyte?
(i really like this mobo)
 

• AsRock Fatal1ty Z170 Professional Gaming i7
• AsRock Z170 Extreme7+
• Gigabyte GA-Z170X-SOC Force

But in those 3 mobo could?
If i am about to go over it(say i will take Gigabyte GA-Z170X-SOC Force), will you tell me to how to set up those storage config? I mean A-Z steps and stuff
Asking serious question

[leadeater]

What you are wanting to do really is a huge waste of money, guilty of that type of thing myself but this is an extra special case of why?

 

For your OS you only need a SATA SSD like an 850 EVO or 850 Pro, after that you only need 1 type of NVMe storage configuration. It could be RAID or not but you don't need two separate NVMe configurations.

 

It is also really important to note that doing RAID across multiple NVMe devices for anything other than a high queue depth benchmark will not result in faster performance, possibly slower.

[leadeater]

Also if you really do want to use that many PCI-E lanes including a graphics card the more appropriate chipset is the X99, not that I'm saying you should buy one as you don't need what you are asking for anyway and you won't get what you think you are getting.