Upgrade from a 2600k?

[staubgame]

So, I was talking to someone I know recently and he told me that je upgraded from an i7-2600k to an i7-6700k (Z170 Board).

He streams a lot of AAA Games, I do that occasionally (for fun only), but I render movie-stuff.

He did not Overclock and won't as the 6700k is powerful enough, he says.

He also says that he definetly got a quicker system out of it all around.

 

So, question one, would it even be worth getting the 6700k then? I assume that both cpus 6700k + non-k would be same speed if not OC'd?

But a non-k CPU could be put on a smaler(cheaper) chipset like a B150 saving around 100€ together. (Germany Prices)
Also, my real question. I am using a ´2600k myself on an old z68 board. the system is 5 years old almost. I oc'd for 2-3 years at 4,2 since after that point I needed to dump significantly more voltage into it for a stable system (4.4Ghz at 1.32v or something like that. I did not like it.), never got beyond 4.5Ghz.
The last two years I dialed it back to stock speeds as I wanted to make it last longer.
5 years is a good time now, though, and I'm thinking of upgrading. Thinking.

So, ignoring OC'ing, would the upgrade be worth it? And, with some mild oc in mind, same question.

More specifically, would it be worth to upgrade to an i7-6700 on a B150 or H170/H110 Mainboard, saving around 100€?
Or would the 100€ be more wisely spend goung with an i7-6700k on a Z170 board with higher clocked RAM?

 

I hope I'll be getting my Zotac 1080 AMP this weekend (after some delays and many promised delivery dates) and I wondered if that would make a difference as well.

 

Hopefully I forgot nothing.

[z97]

Buy the new 6 core and overclock it if you're doing video rendering. You aren't going to kill the chip any faster than normal unless you plan on trying to push more than 1.4 vcore thru the chip.

[wraptor]

9 minutes ago, staubgame said:

So, I was talking to someone I know recently and he told me that je upgraded from an i7-2600k to an i7-6700k (Z170 Board).

He streams a lot of AAA Games, I do that occasionally (for fun only), but I render movie-stuff.

He did not Overclock and won't as the 6700k is powerful enough, he says.

He also says that he definetly got a quicker system out of it all around.

 

So, question one, would it even be worth getting the 6700k then? I assume that both cpus 6700k + non-k would be same speed if not OC'd?

But a non-k CPU could be put on a smaler(cheaper) chipset like a B150 saving around 100€ together. (Germany Prices)
Also, my real question. I am using a ´2600k myself on an old z68 board. the system is 5 years old almost. I oc'd for 2-3 years at 4,2 since after that point I needed to dump significantly more voltage into it for a stable system (4.4Ghz at 1.32v or something like that. I did not like it.), never got beyond 4.5Ghz.
The last two years I dialed it back to stock speeds as I wanted to make it last longer.
5 years is a good time now, though, and I'm thinking of upgrading. Thinking.

So, ignoring OC'ing, would the upgrade be worth it? And, with some mild oc in mind, same question.

More specifically, would it be worth to upgrade to an i7-6700 on a B150 or H170/H110 Mainboard, saving around 100€?
Or would the 100€ be more wisely spend goung with an i7-6700k on a Z170 board with higher clocked RAM?

 

I hope I'll be getting my Zotac 1080 AMP this weekend (after some delays and many promised delivery dates) and I wondered if that would make a difference as well.

 

Hopefully I forgot nothing.

First of all: A K-edition CPU is an unlocked Processor, this allows you to overclock the Processor at will.
Nothing more.

If you are going to overclock, do it on a Z170 chipset, because that has the best power delivery, stability and better chipset made for this kind of work.

If you are not going to overclock a B150 chipset would be more than enough.
B150 is essentially AMD (Performance on a budget), Z170 = NVidia (Performance)

My friend nailed 7 Ghz with his 2600K at 1.38V :Þ
If you bring back the 2600K to stock speeds, the 6700K would beat the heck out of it.
It also supports M.2 and a lot more feature proofing like DDR4 etc (If the DDR3 fails in a couple of years, it would be costy to replace it).
I'd definitly upgrade if you've got the money.

B150 vs Z170...
If you really want that extra performance + that (little bit) better Chipset, go for the Z170.
If you just want a cost effective system, with warranty etc, go for the B150.
Ram doesn't really make a difference for gaming, 2 to none fps gain.

The 6700K wouldn't really bottleneck the GTX 1080 at all so Motherboard/chipset doesn't really matter

[staubgame]

Thanks for the reply, but I barely considered it as this would make it way more expensive. I'd have to pay around 650€ for cpu + mainboard, but only 500 for  MB + CPU + RAM with the 6700k.

I realize the 6 core are better for rendering but just too expensive (especially since I got convinced into a good GTX 1080 deal, still more pricey than the 1070 I originally was going to buy)

[wraptor]

3 minutes ago, staubgame said:

I barely considered it as this would make it way more expensive. I'd have to pay around 650€ for cpu + mainboard, but only 500 for  MB + CPU + RAM on the 6700k.

Next time try to quote the person your answering (That little arrow to the left thing under every post).
It avoids confusions.

[staubgame]

13 minutes ago, tv15dsi said:

First of all: A K-edition CPU is an unlocked Processor, this allows you to overclock the Processor at will.
Nothing more.

If you are going to overclock, do it on a Z170 chipset, because that has the best power delivery, stability and better chipset made for this kind of work.

If you are not going to overclock a B150 chipset would be more than enough.
B150 is essentially AMD (Performance on a budget), Z170 = NVidia (Performance)

My friend nailed 7 Ghz with his 2600K at 1.38V :Þ
If you bring back the 2600K to stock speeds, the 6700K would beat the heck out of it.
It also supports M.2 and a lot more feature proofing like DDR4 etc (If the DDR3 fails in a couple of years, it would be costy to replace it).
I'd definitly upgrade if you've got the money.

B150 vs Z170...
If you really want that extra performance + that (little bit) better Chipset, go for the Z170.
If you just want a cost effective system, with warranty etc, go for the B150.
Ram doesn't really make a difference for gaming, 2 to none fps gain.

The 6700K wouldn't really bottleneck the GTX 1080 at all so Motherboard/chipset doesn't really matter

Yes. Very yes. Quoting. Forgot that. Sorry  
Your answer snuck in between me typing and then sending.  

 

Thanks for your respone with so much explanation.

So considering all the Information, without overclocking, a B150 running a i7-6700 would be good?

I was considering the MSI B150 (I think that one had a m.2 Slot. If not it was another one.)

Edit: Was that one. There's also a MSI Cashback Thing going on. ^^

 

7Ghz damn

[wraptor]

1 minute ago, staubgame said:

Yes. Very yes. Quoting. Forgot that. Sorry  
Your answer snuck in between me typing and then sending.  

 

Thanks for your respone with so much explanation.

So considering all the Information, without overclocking, a B150 running a i7-6700 would be good?

I was considering the MSI B150 (I think that one had a m.2 Slot. If not it was another one.)

Definitely, I think that little juice could be usefull for video rendering if you'd buy a Z170 board.

But if you are on a medium budget and want to safe that little bit of money, and the warranty + you don't care about that minute less render time you should be fine.

6.4 Ghz Clock, 7.2-isch Ghz with turbo boost

[wraptor]

6 minutes ago, staubgame said:

Edit: Was that one. There's also a MSI Cashback Thing going on. ^^

Cashback? German prices are low as heck already...

[staubgame]

2 minutes ago, tv15dsi said:

Definitely, I think that little juice could be usefull for video rendering if you'd buy a Z170 board.

But if you are on a medium budget and want to safe that little bit of money, and the warranty + you don't care about that minute less render time you should be fine.

6.4 Ghz Clock, 7.2-isch Ghz with turbo boost

6.4 Ghz Clock, 7.2-isch Ghz with turbo boost  Still crazy. I got nowhere near that.

 

I checked into that cashback thing, with it the price difference drops to 25-ish €. That would be a no brainer.

 

Anyway, thanks a lot for your help.

[staubgame]

2 minutes ago, tv15dsi said:

Cashback? German prices are low as heck already...

http://www.mindfactory.de/Highlights/Intel_MB_plus_CPU_Cashback_MSI/Badge/msi_sommer_cashback
 

[wraptor]

1 minute ago, staubgame said:

http://www.mindfactory.de/Highlights/Intel_MB_plus_CPU_Cashback_MSI/Badge/msi_sommer_cashback
 

German is still that hard for me to read, even though I'm close to the German border :Þ

[staubgame]

Hehe, now I get why you mean computer parts are cheaper in germany.

(I guess you figured it out, but just in case)

Basically it says if I buy any of those combinations until 15th July you get the amount of money back, anywhere from 45 to 145€

 

Again forgot to quote, dang it.