Computer Build

[Era]

I am looking to build a pc for game development, graphics, and all that stuff. Can someone suggest me a build. I would like if you even list the keyboard, mouse, monitor and all that. My budget is $3000. But it is not necessary to spend all the $$$$$. So it would be kind if yall helped me out

[Jack Dvorak]

I get right on it

[Jack Dvorak]

30 minutes ago, Era said:

I am looking to build a pc for game development, graphics, and all that stuff. Can someone suggest me a build. I would like if you even list the keyboard, mouse, monitor and all that. My budget is $3000. But it is not necessary to spend all the $$$$$. So it would be kind if yall helped me out

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8xMJVY and you have 200$ for some other things leftover  

[keiwein2]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DYZgLD

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/nktVYr

[Clanscorpia]

Give me a sec, I'll make a build to beat those 2

[Clanscorpia]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jw4RGf

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jw4RGf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jw4RGf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($221.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.84 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.98 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($74.22 @ Amazon) 
Other: EVGA ACX 3.0 Superclocked GTX 1080 ($660.00)
Other: EVGA ACX 3.0 Superclocked GTX 1080 ($660.00)
Total: $2914.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 18:49 EDT-0400

[Zyndo]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jw4RGf

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jw4RGf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jw4RGf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($221.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.84 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.98 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($74.22 @ Amazon) 
Other: EVGA ACX 3.0 Superclocked GTX 1080 ($660.00)
Other: EVGA ACX 3.0 Superclocked GTX 1080 ($660.00)
Total: $2914.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 18:49 EDT-0400

The H115i is better than the H100i and is currently cheaper. no sense getting 2 GTX 1080's on a 1080p monitor. none whatsoever. especially when you're cheaping out on pretty much every other component just to get it. You also have no case. You planning on just laying this all out neatly on your floor? 6800k is better than the 5820k. a 6800k costs 2% more to add to a 3000 dollar system.. it definitely performs more than 2% better.

 

Brb making a build...

[Clanscorpia]

2 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

The H115i is better than the H100i and is currently cheaper. no sense getting 2 GTX 1080's on a 1080p monitor. none whatsoever. especially when you're cheaping out on pretty much every other component just to get it. You also have no case. You planning on just laying this all out neatly on your floor? 6800k is better than the 5820k. a 6800k costs 2% more to add to a 3000 dollar system.. it definitely performs more than 2% better.

 

Brb making a build...

Oh, I thought the monitor was 1440p  5820K OCs better, went with the h100i because of the amazing reviews, and theres almost 0 cheaping out except maybe the monitor. the 6800K is overpriced right now

[Clanscorpia]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qkYyf8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qkYyf8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($221.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.84 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.98 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Samsung U28D590D 28.0" 60Hz Monitor  ($399.99 @ Best Buy) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($74.22 @ Amazon) 
Other: EVGA ACX 3.0 Superclocked GTX 1080 ($660.00)
Other: EVGA ACX 3.0 Superclocked GTX 1080 ($660.00)
Total: $3054.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 19:03 EDT-0400

 

Slightly over

[Clanscorpia]

2 minutes ago, brcdncn said:

 

As much as I have been impressed with my 5820K and its OC it pains me to agree with this too.

Its 100 dollars more right now, thats unreasonable 

[Zyndo]

12 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Oh, I thought the monitor was 1440p  5820K OCs better, went with the h100i because of the amazing reviews, and theres almost 0 cheaping out except maybe the monitor. the 6800K is overpriced right now

The number 1 mistake amateur computer builders make is comparing the cost of one component to another. Don't do that. Compare the cost of the build with one component in it to the build with the other component in it. Like I said, at $3000 dollars the 60 extra dollars for a 6800k is a 2% cost difference. its almost nothing. in a 2000 dollar system that 60 dollars is a 3% difference. the 6800k is more than 3% better than the 5820k. its a 100% worthwhile investment.

 

And yes you cheap out. the monitor choice is weak. the total storage capacity is pretty crappy for a content creator. the storage methods are iffy when you can easily afford m.2 drive speed on a budget like this. the only reasonable choice was 16GB of RAM, but there are some professional applications that scale very well with RAM capacity, and 32GB is just a hair more expensive than 16GB.

 

Even with your revised build you just posted, you don't have a case, you don't have an operating system, you don't have speakers or headset. and the OP asked for not using the full budget if possible. stop trying to push 1080 SLI, its just not the right choice for his particular use-case scenario.

[Zyndo]

I ended up with this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7dBsJV

 

It has everything you need for your purposes. The only thing I left out was your mass storage option, but you can decide how much you want for that and then just add it to the build. No sense me putting in a 6 TB WD Black drive if you only need 2TB. Everything else is solid choices. 1440p monitor with quality stand. 1070 is designed for exactly that monitor and usecase scenario. no need for a 1080, although there is still budget left for you to get one if you want. 32GB of RAM is more than enough for anyone, heck 16GB is probably all you needed. I went with 32 simply because with your budget there isn't really a good reason not to. for the CPU and cooler I went with 6800k and H115i. Excellent combination that will allow you to reach any reasonable overclock you want. For the motherboard I chose the "Asus X99-A II". This motherboard is Broadwell-E compatible out of the box, and it has everything a guy could need out of a motherboard, and none of the extra "fluff" that a guy doesn't need which comes on the more expensive boards. For the case I chose the H440 white edition, but you can get pretty much anything you want. Thats certainly a fine case, but more of a place holder if you wanted to get something else.

 

The only thing I "wasted" money on was the power supply. the HX1000i. I got this for 2 reasons. 1. there is a combo deal on right now on newegg if you get that PSU and a 6800k. little bit of extra savings, but whatever. 2. You don't need that many watts, but its a high quality power supply that comes with a 10 year warranty from corsair. With your budget, you can easily afford this PSU. the 50-70 bucks you could save by going to a lower wattage PSU of the same quality is offset by higher wattage PSU's typically being more power efficient. the HX1000i has its highest power efficiency at about 40%, so about 400 watts, which is pretty much exactly where your system will run under full load. the 50-70 extra you spend now, will EASILY be saved in power costs over the next decade. not to mention that if you ever wanted to build a system with SLI or whatever, this PSU would have more than enough wattage to be put in ANY build you want to throw its way.

 

When it comes to peripherals, I'll be honest. I don't know a lot about all the various brands and varieties out there on the market. The monitor is a good solid decent choice, and is IPS. but other than that, I just chose the mouse, keyboard, and headphones by the ones I have. I have used them for a few years now and I love them. they are awesome. good quality, feel nice to use, and have never let me down. they're also not ridiculously expensive. You don't need to get these ones if you don't want to. You have enough leftover budget to get whatever you wanted.

 

 

 

I spent 2500 of your 3000 bucks for this build. You still need a HDD of some sort for mass storage, but you can easily budget that in by getting a 256GB 950 pro instead of the 512 if you don't want to spend any additional cash, or use some of the headroom I left you to get a HDD of your choice.. you can also upgrade to a GTX 1080 instead of the GTX 1070 if you feel you can afford that, but you dont need to. the 1070 is a good 1440p card. If you want multiple monitors, you could also go that route with the money I left over (although if you want 3, you may want to go 1080p for affordability) Other than that your build is good to go. Enjoy!

 

If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask.

[Clanscorpia]

The 6800K is more than 3% more than the 5820K, it's 17% for a very little not needed increase. 10 seconds in a render for $60 isn't really worth it. You also gotta remember real world application. For example, "Sure this SSD is faster, but will you really notice the 10 seconds difference? Is 2.30 seconds compared to 2.20 that big when compared to 6 seconds for an HDD" - From MaximumPC but may not be exact. Heres a more reasonable build then:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dxhnnn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dxhnnn/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($221.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($73.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.84 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.98 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($87.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($74.22 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2310.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-06 20:15 EDT-0400

 

Triple monitors for programming but not surround, and the 1070 which is more than enough for 1080p. And the 5820K for rendering

 

[Zyndo]

 

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Its 100 more

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/6tXfrH/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Td98TW/intel-cpu-bx80671i76800k

 

5820k = 369.99

6800k = 429.99

 

Its exactly 60 dollars more.

 

Lets say that it WAS 100 bucks more though. And lets use the 2500 dollar build I made. If it was 2400 dollars and I went with the 5820k instead, I would have saved myself 4% of my cost. But my CPU would be more than 4% worse. I have nothing against the 5820k, but the 6800k is simply a better option. MAYBE if you were making some super budget build, or you absolutely needed to save that 100 bucks for some reason (but its actually 60), then yes. by all means get the 5820k. If he REALLY wanted to save the money, he could certainly do that if he wanted. the 5820k isn't DRAMATICALLY worse than 6800k... but at a budget like his, 60-100 bucks doesn't mean as much. The only real advantage to go 5820k is if you wanted some specific motherboard that doesn't ship with Broadwell-E compatibility, then it is sensible to get the 5820k. Simply put, the extra 4% cost simply results in more than a 4% performance increase.

 

I've had to say this to you 3 times now. I will not be saying it a 4th time.

[Clanscorpia]

11 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/6tXfrH/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Td98TW/intel-cpu-bx80671i76800k

 

5820k = 369.99

6800k = 429.99

 

Its exactly 60 dollars more.

 

Lets say that it WAS 100 bucks more though. And lets use the 2500 dollar build I made. If it was 2400 dollars and I went with the 5820k instead, I would have saved myself 4% of my cost. But my CPU would be more than 4% worse. I have nothing against the 5820k, but the 6800k is simply a better option. MAYBE if you were making some super budget build, or you absolutely needed to save that 100 bucks for some reason (but its actually 60), then yes. by all means get the 5820k. If he REALLY wanted to save the money, he could certainly do that if he wanted. the 5820k isn't DRAMATICALLY worse than 6800k... but at a budget like his, 60-100 bucks doesn't mean as much. The only real advantage to go 5820k is if you wanted some specific motherboard that doesn't ship with Broadwell-E compatibility, then it is sensible to get the 5820k. Simply put, the extra 4% cost simply results in more than a 4% performance increase.

 

I've had to say this to you 3 times now. I will not be saying it a 4th time.

I corrected myself about the $100, and the money could be spent on other things like a better graphics card when 4% of the build budget will give much more than 4% performance increase. 

[Zyndo]

54 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

I corrected myself about the $100, and the money could be spent on other things like a better graphics card when 4% of the build budget will give much more than 4% performance increase. 

well now that you finally agree its no longer 100 dollars, but the actual 60 dollars, its a 2.5% cost increase (at 2500 bucks). By all means, point me at a graphics card that is less than 60 dollars more than a 1070, and performs at least 2.5% better. Go ahead. I'll wait. (spoiler alert, there isn't one). and the 6800k is more than 2.5% better than the 5820k, so its an irrelevant comparison to make.

1 hour ago, Clanscorpia said:

The 6800K is more than 3% more than the 5820K, it's 17% for a very little not needed increase.

You are still comparing the cost of the processors against each other, not the cost of the systems. I explained it earlier, but that is a novice level mistake.

 

1 hour ago, Clanscorpia said:

You also gotta remember real world application. For example, "Sure this SSD is faster, but will you really notice the 10 seconds difference? Is 2.30 seconds compared to 2.20 that big when compared to 6 seconds for an HDD" - From MaximumPC but may not be exact.

That is the first reasonable point you've made all day. Specsheets and benchmarks aren't the same as real world performance. he may very well not notice the difference the 6800k makes in every situation, or the difference my suggested 950 pro instead of your suggested 850 evo makes. but for the minimal cost difference it makes, its worth the times where you CAN notice the difference. Some rendering and graphical design programs REALLY benefit from the speed and IOPS of the advanced 950 pro NVME drive. Windows boots up in mere SECONDS (from shutoff). You aren't going to notice the difference when you're browsing the internet, but there WILL be times when it makes a difference, and it would be a darn shame to cheap out on an X99 system, go with 2300 bucks instead of 2500 bucks and then have it fall short in ANY scenario.

 

Hes not on a super tight budget, there is no reason to skim off every last penny we can at the expense of what he wants out of his system. I see you've revised one of your builds after the fact. This isn't a competition man. You should be building him the system that you think he needs, not building yourself a system on his budget in order to "beat" the others in this thread. First with the 1080 SLI, and now just trying to shave off every penny you can, at the expense of his productivity, in order to "beat" my build...

 

That being said, your last mentioned build there actually looks pretty decent. If he doesn't mind going without the NVME drive, going without the 6800k, going with only 16GB of RAM (which will honestly likely be enough). I'm not sure 650W is a good investment on his budget (although its more than enough wattage for this build), if he wants to SLI later that could potentially be limiting, but other than that it looks like a good budget alternative compared to my suggested build. You have some solid and budget friendly monitor choices compared to my single 1440p IPS panel. If he is into the multi monitor setups, that might very well be the way to go. Triple monitors do tend to look cool at the very least.

[Era]

Thanks for the help.