Amd Witcher 3 Problems

[Aruterisu]

I am currently running a amd apu a8-5600k oc to 4ghz , with a rx 480 stock . I am currently playing witcher 3 and experiencing some odd fps around 45-50 sometimes droppping to 30s outdoors and was wondering if my cpu cannot keep up with the game and the gpu is not being used to its full potential. 

 

Edit : I forgot to add im playing everything on almost ultra , with hairworks turned off and foliage and shadows down to high.

[BbsMentos]

So would you like that motherboard rare or medium ?

Jokes asside, drivers are still in a early stage, problems with certain games will be fixed soon I think

[Guest Kloaked]

What are your memory speeds

[Aruterisu]

9 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

What are your memory speeds

I have no clue .

[Guest Kloaked]

2 minutes ago, Aruterisu said:

I have no clue .

You can find it in task manager under performance/memory.

[Aruterisu]

2 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

You can find it in task manager under performance/memory.

Im not sure if this is not displaying correctly but currently it says 667 mhz , which must be wrong?

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, Aruterisu said:

Im not sure if this is not displaying correctly but currently it says 667 mhz , which must be wrong?

How many sticks do you have?

[ComradeVodka]

15 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

What are your memory speeds

OP is using an RX 480. Therefore memory speeds are an irrelevant factor. Only if OP was using the actual iGPU of his A8-5600 would the memory speeds be a factor.

[Aruterisu]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

How many sticks do you have?

2x4gb ddr3

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, ComradeVodka said:

OP is using an RX 480. Therefore memory speeds are an irrelevant factor. Only if OP was using the actual iGPU of his A8-5600 would the memory speeds be a factor.

Yeah no. Memory speeds matter when there's a potential CPU bottleneck in many cases. Doesn't matter if they're not using the onboard video in the CPU.

[ComradeVodka]

3 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Yeah no. Memory speeds matter when there's a potential CPU bottleneck in many cases. Doesn't matter if they're not using the onboard video in the CPU.

I've run with an I3 2120 with 1333Mhz, I5 2400 with 1333Mhz and now an I7-4790k with 1333Mhz and tested ALL setups with the highest speed the relevant motherboards could handle. The FPS difference was so tiny, it's basically margin of error.

 

Memory speed matters so insanely little

 

Edit: And I've tested all of said CPU's on witcher 3 and battlefield 4 and other titles. Memory speed right now if you're gaming is nothing more than eye candy on your PC spec sheet. 

[Aruterisu]

2 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Yeah no. Memory speeds matter when there's a potential CPU bottleneck in many cases. Doesn't matter if they're not using the onboard video in the CPU.

If its my ram , i can just order some right now , as im curious why its speed is 667 mhz when most ram nowadays i see is atleast running at 1300mhz or am i being stupid?

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, ComradeVodka said:

I've run with an I3 2120 with 1333Mhz, I5 2400 with 1333Mhz and now an I7-4790k with 1333Mhz and tested ALL setups with the highest speed the relevant motherboards could handle. The FPS difference was so tiny, it's basically margin of error.

 

Memory speed matters so insanely little

Because you have a 4790k.

 

OP has a an A8-5600k

[Guest Kloaked]

3 minutes ago, Aruterisu said:

If its my ram , i can just order some right now , as im curious why its speed is 667 mhz when most ram nowadays i see is atleast running at 1300mhz or am i being stupid?

If you have two sticks, it would be 1300mhz (or around that effectively). The speeds are divided amongst the memory - each stick is running at 667mhz, and in dual-channel mode it effectively makes 1300mhz.

 

EDIT: You could either get faster memory, according to what your CPU supports, or upgrade to a better CPU platform to relieve the bottleneck that I believe you have there.

[ComradeVodka]

2 minutes ago, Aruterisu said:

If its my ram , i can just order some right now , as im curious why its speed is 667 mhz when most ram nowadays i see is atleast running at 1300mhz or am i being stupid?

DDR = Double Data Rate. If you double the 667MHz it reports you get the speed you're looking for which in this case will be 1333 MHz.

 

2 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Because you have a 4790k.

 

OP has a an A8-5600k

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I've run with an I3 2120 with 1333Mhz, I5 2400 with 1333Mhz and now an I7-4790k with 1333Mhz

As I clearly stated and you clearly didn't read. I've tested far weaker CPUs than the 4790k I have right now.

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, ComradeVodka said:

DDR = Double Data Rate. If you double the 667MHz it reports you get the speed you're looking for which in this case will be 1333 MHz.

 

As I clearly stated and you clearly didn't read. I've tested far weaker CPUs than the 4790k I have right now.

I have dyscalculia, or I like to think so. When I see a bunch of numbers at once it confuses me. Sorry.

 

I'm also sorry your tests didn't show better results. Mine did, however, with my 2500k/GTX 980 running Witcher 3 between 1600mhz and 2133mhz memory.

[Aruterisu]

I understand from all of this that either i should:

Wait for the new drivers to improve performance which makes sense since the gpu has been out for 2 days and most games such as witcher are demanding.

Or purchase a new motherboard and cpu , and the most optimal cpu would be around a i5.

[Crusader93]

5 hours ago, Aruterisu said:

I am currently running a amd apu a8-5600k oc to 4ghz , with a rx 480 stock . I am currently playing witcher 3 and experiencing some odd fps around 45-50 sometimes droppping to 30s outdoors and was wondering if my cpu cannot keep up with the game and the gpu is not being used to its full potential. 

 

Edit : I forgot to add im playing everything on almost ultra , with hairworks turned off and foliage and shadows down to high.

Amd processors are the biggest bottlenecks you can find. Witcher 3 taxes much on the Cpu in some areas in the game, which will give you stutter and horrible fps drops. I would upgrade cpu, MB and ram right away. For modern games with much eyecandy, that cpu will bottleneck you.

 

To find out, you must download Msi afterburner, and monitor the gpu and the cpu usage ingame. If the graphics card is not at 95-99% load at all times, the cpu is bottlenecking the 480 to keep up. If you had a 1070, it would bottleneck as fck

[Aruterisu]

57 minutes ago, Crusader93 said:

Amd processors are the biggest bottlenecks you can find. Witcher 3 taxes much on the Cpu in some areas in the game, which will give you stutter and horrible fps drops. I would upgrade cpu, MB and ram right away. For modern games with much eyecandy, that cpu will bottleneck you.

 

To find out, you must download Msi afterburner, and monitor the gpu and the cpu usage ingame. If the graphics card is not at 95-99% load at all times, the cpu is bottlenecking the 480 to keep up. If you had a 1070, it would bottleneck as fck

But whats the best i5 cpu and mobo combo that is mini itx for under 270.

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

15 hours ago, Aruterisu said:

was wondering if my cpu cannot keep up with the game and the gpu is not being used to its full potential.

no it cannot...AMD has been pushing out outdated CPU architecture for years on end now and for gaming that thing you have in there is not really up to the task. it'll do fine in lesser demanding games, or not CPU intensive games (like sports games for example, or racing...)

 

 

8 hours ago, Aruterisu said:

But whats the best i5 cpu and mobo combo that is mini itx for under 270.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H110I Pro Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $270.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 10:28 EDT-0400

[Aruterisu]

4 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H110I Pro Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $270.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-01 10:28 EDT-0400

Does this mean i have to purchase new ram as mine is ddr3 and this motherboard doesnt seem to support it or am i being dumb?

[Crusader93]

8 hours ago, Aruterisu said:

But whats the best i5 cpu and mobo combo that is mini itx for under 270.

 

I would say your candidates are i5 6600K and i7 6700K. Those are the cheapest, and among the best there is for gaming today.