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Intel Optane SSD, worth waiting?

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19 minutes ago, Edea said:

I'm planning a new desktop around Skylake (I currently only have an ultrabook). However everybody keeps saying how mindblowing the new 3D Xpoint technology on Intel's upcoming Optane SSD's will be over the current SSD's. I also understood that the Optane SSD's will only be working with the upcoming Kaby Lake which makes me wonder if I should just wait for the Kaby Lake over going with Skylake now. The possible unaffordable price of these new SSD's frightens me as well. What do you guys think?

If you are building a big data center or enterprice server: yes.

As an enthusiast / gamer / consumer: not at all.

 

The drives will be way to expensive and the NVRAM stuff also requires software support and this will not happen for usual programms.

And good looks maxing out a Samsung 950 with anything that is not a benchmark. The storage is not a bottleneck atm.

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I'm planning a new desktop around Skylake (I currently only have an ultrabook). However everybody keeps saying how mindblowing the new 3D Xpoint technology on Intel's upcoming Optane SSD's will be over the current SSD's. I also understood that the Optane SSD's will only be working with the upcoming Kaby Lake which makes me wonder if I should just wait for the Kaby Lake over going with Skylake now. The possible unaffordable price of these new SSD's frightens me as well. What do you guys think?

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Wait until these come out but don't buy them, buy the discounted 750 series. (hopefully, Intel could just be a ***) Knowing Intels SSDs they will be pretty freaking expensive...

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4 minutes ago, BringBackLCT said:

Wait until these come out but don't buy them, buy the discounted 750 series. (hopefully, Intel could just be a ***) Knowing Intels SSDs they will be pretty freaking expensive...

I was originally planning getting the Samsung 850 EVO SSD, but this "incredible new technology" made me wonder.. :$

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3 minutes ago, Edea said:

I was originally planning getting the Samsung 850 EVO SSD, but this 'incredible new technology made me wonder.. :$

If you want fast speeds, PCI-E or M.2 is the way to go. Just make sure they are not SATA based even though they are a different port/slot.

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19 minutes ago, Edea said:

I'm planning a new desktop around Skylake (I currently only have an ultrabook). However everybody keeps saying how mindblowing the new 3D Xpoint technology on Intel's upcoming Optane SSD's will be over the current SSD's. I also understood that the Optane SSD's will only be working with the upcoming Kaby Lake which makes me wonder if I should just wait for the Kaby Lake over going with Skylake now. The possible unaffordable price of these new SSD's frightens me as well. What do you guys think?

If you are building a big data center or enterprice server: yes.

As an enthusiast / gamer / consumer: not at all.

 

The drives will be way to expensive and the NVRAM stuff also requires software support and this will not happen for usual programms.

And good looks maxing out a Samsung 950 with anything that is not a benchmark. The storage is not a bottleneck atm.

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2 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

If you are building a big data center or enterprice server: yes.

As an enthusiast / gamer / consumer: not at all.

 

The drives will be way to expensive and the NVRAM stuff also requires software support and this will not happen for usual programms.

And good looks maxing out a Samsung 950 with anything that is not a benchmark. The storage is not a bottleneck atm.

Thank you for making this clear for me ^_^ I think I'll just stick with the Samsung's 850 EVO SSD as planned.

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1 minute ago, Edea said:

Thank you for making this clear for me ^_^ I think I'll just stick with the Samsung's 850 EVO SSD as planned.

An NVMe based SSD like the Samsung 950 would still be a good upgrade if your ultrabool supprts it. Despite it is M.2 it has a different key than the SATA SSDs.

But they are still quite expensive.

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8 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

An NVMe based SSD like the Samsung 950 would still be a good upgrade if your ultrabool supprts it. Despite it is M.2 it has a different key than the SATA SSDs.

But they are still quite expensive.

The price of 950 (at least here) seems to be 2 times the 850 so I don't think it will be worth it for me.

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1 minute ago, Edea said:

The price of 950 (at least here) seems to be 2 times the 850 so I don't think it will be worth it for me.

The speed and price of NVMe SSDs in general is about doubled compared to SATA SSDs.

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7 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

The speed and price of NVMe SSDs in general is about doubled compared to SATA SSDs.

The speed is indeed tempting but would I really benefit from 950 pro that much over the 850 evo, meaning like with OS speed (win 10), gaming etc.? I'm planning a desktop from a scratch and that increase in price is a quite a lot to take for my poor wallet xD

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2 minutes ago, Edea said:

The speed is indeed tempting but would I really benefit from 950 pro that much over the 850 evo, meaning like with OS speed (win 10), gaming etc.? I'm planning a desktop from a scratch and that increase in price is a quite a lot to take for my poor wallet xD

Only buy an NVMe SSD if you can afford the cost in addition to the build. If you have to get a lover tier CPU of GPU instead it's not worth it at all.

The difference for usual workloads is not that big.

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3 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

Only buy an NVMe SSD if you can afford the cost in addition to the build. If you have to get a lover tier CPU of GPU instead it's not worth it at all.

The difference for usual workloads is not that big.

I'm already burning cash with my planned skylake build so I'll pass and stay with the 850 evo. Thanks a lot for your tips and time for such a newbie like me! :$

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