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Right now, I'm using a G210 (over 2 months now) I had laying around, because my R9 390 (my first AMD card) died after 3 months, the drivers kept crashing and I didn't really want to deal with this anymore.

 

Now I could get a 780ti (reference) for about 200€ (hasn't been OC'ed).

 

I know, RX480 is about to be released, but the cheapest version will probably be ~250€ and since my 390 I'm even less into AMD than I was before.

 

The rest of my system consists of a Xeon 1231v3 on an ASRock H97 Performance board with 16GB RAM and a bequiet! Straigh Power 10 700W PSU.

 

I'm only gaming on 1080p 60Hz and coming from an Xbox I don't really need to max out every game.

 

 

My main question is: 780ti or spend like 50€ more and get a 970? I'm really not sure about the VRAM stuff.

Both will most likely not be enough within the next few years, but with lowered settings it will still work good enough for me. Now, the 780ti has only 3GB, but as far as I understood this, the 970 might have worse problems, because 500MB that are not full speed, but being used by the GPU as if they were full speed, seems to be worse than just 3GB, or am I wrong here?

 

Whatever GPU I get, the plan is to build a loop for my GPU by the end of the year with a 280mm rad, so I'll probably also be able to overclock it then. The 780ti has a slight advantage (pricewise), because there are full cover blocks available right now for just 50€.

 

(power consumption is not a problem btw)

 

Regarding DX12: This has been hyped so long, yet not many games really brought full support for it, so I think it will take some time until DX12 is really a thing in every new game and until then I will probably have watched enough hardware porn to be hyped (and maybe stupid) enough to buy a different GPU anyway.

 

 

So, what do you think?

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they always say it hasn't been OC'ed

what does the 290 / 290X cost?

just because you got one bad card doesn't mean AMD is trash you know...

any company can get a faulty product, that's why there are warranty policies and customer services in place - did you even try to cash in your warranty on the 390 that died?

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1 minute ago, DXMember said:

they always say it hasn't been OC'ed

what does the 290 / 290X cost?

just because you got one bad card doesn't mean AMD is trash you know...

the 290 would be quite good!

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4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

the 290 would be quite good!

 

5 minutes ago, DXMember said:

they always say it hasn't been OC'ed

what does the 290 / 290X cost?

just because you got one bad card doesn't mean AMD is trash you know...

any company can get a faulty product, that's why there are warranty policies and customer services in place

or even wait for the new 480? Its said to be priced at 177 euros.

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4 minutes ago, DXMember said:

they always say it hasn't been OC'ed

what does the 290 / 290X cost?

just because you got one bad card doesn't mean AMD is trash you know...

any company can get a faulty product, that's why there are warranty policies and customer services in place - did you even try to cash in your warranty on the 390 that died?

I know they always say that, but I highly doubt this guy was lying. He sent picture of the card in his pc, with the reference cooler on, he did no cable management, he even used the stock cooler for his CPU and said the GPU cooler needs to be cleaned, but he's afraid of breaking something, so he didn't do it. If he's lying, he's quite good at faking to be someone who has no clue.

 

A 290 would be ~230€.

 

And yes, I did RMA the 390, got a new one, had the same driver crashes as before and then sold it, because I was tired of dealing with this.

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1 minute ago, Legolessed said:

 

or even wait for the new 480? Its said to be priced at 177 euros.

If you can wait until the 480 then wait for the benchmarks. If it is better than a 290X then buy it. Otherwise buy a 290 or another 390. The 780Ti is extremely old now.

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2 minutes ago, Legolessed said:

 

or even wait for the new 480? Its said to be priced at 177 euros.

Not gonna happen. It was announced for 199$. That, + 19% tax + the usual "euro fees". It's not going to be any lower than 240€.

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1 minute ago, onVacation said:

Not gonna happen. It was announced for 199$. That, + 19% tax + the usual "euro fees". It's not going to be any lower than 240€.

Would it still fit in your budget? if it would then wait for benchcmarks and see if it's better than the 390

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5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Would it still fit in your budget? if it would then wait for benchcmarks and see if it's better than the 390

or you could also run two superclocked 750 ti in SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487024

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2 minutes ago, Legolessed said:

or you could also run two superclocked 750 ti in SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487024

Except you can't run two 750Tis in SLI.

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1 minute ago, Legolessed said:

or you could also run two superclocked 750 ti in SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487024

OH NO PLEASE NO! You shouldn't SLI any Nvidia card period! Much less unless it's an x70, x80 or x80Ti Card.

 

Just buy a GTX 1070 or 1060 once released..... OR RX 480

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1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

Except you can't run two 750Tis in SLI.

Some SKUs allow you to if I remember correctly.

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11 minutes ago, Legolessed said:

 

or even wait for the new 480? Its said to be priced at 177 euros.

add the taxes, profit margins and import duties, you're well into 250~300€

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3 minutes ago, Legolessed said:

or you could also run two superclocked 750 ti in SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487024

How would that help in any way? 
 

My mainboard doesn't even support SLI and as far as I know, the 750ti also doesn't support it.

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5 minutes ago, onVacation said:

How would that help in any way? 
 

My mainboard doesn't even support SLI and as far as I know, the 750ti also doesn't support it.

it was a joke. you could use a gtx 960 ftw edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487164&cm_re=gtx_960-_-14-487-164-_-Product

or a 950 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487225&cm_re=gtx_950-_-14-487-225-_-Product

or a standard 960 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487153&cm_re=gtx_960-_-14-487-153-_-Product

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5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Some SKUs allow you to if I remember correctly.

Eh, would be extremely impractical anyway. I don't think anyone in their right mind would try to do it unless they were extremely uninformed.

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37 minutes ago, onVacation said:

And yes, I did RMA the 390, got a new one, had the same driver crashes as before and then sold it, because I was tired of dealing with this.

That would have been down to something else in your system, i cant imagine they gave you 2 cards with the same problem.

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13 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

That would have been down to something else in your system, i cant imagine they gave you 2 cards with the same problem.

It definetely was, but I wasn't able to figure out, what it was and some other cards I tried from my friends worked fine, so I just sold it, because I was tired of dealing with it.

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Alright, I'll wait for the RX480. Just saw the thread by ONOTech, with some potential leaks. If the RX480 is anywhere near that performance, it's definetely a good deal, although I expect the reference model (only available w/ 8 GB), to be >300€.

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