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more options and better confiurations ex: you don't need a i7 and a gt740

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1 minute ago, Gino942 said:

i already said that but thanks!

not in the OG post.

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a Wii and PS2 as your only consoles.

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Asrock RX9070xt Steel Legends, Corsair RM750X, 500gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 3x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a Obsidian 750D airflow.
GF PC: (NightHawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb 860 evo, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

HP probook 445R G6 review

 

"Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid."

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Just the typically excessive fees, markups, and tricks/snake oil. Honestly, not everyone should build their own, but aside from the cost mark up 

 

Often not overclocked, if it is its not to the best it could be

mismatched parts for gaming, no game needs an i7 6950x 

snake oil, 'gaming ram' is not a valid product

lights!!!! alot of prebuilt systems offer looks over performance 

meaningless features, 'super fast thunderbolt' isn't needed for desktop gaming

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A few points:

 

  • You can customize it how you want (color scheme, something crazy like a desk pc, watercooling loops as you desire, the list goes on).
  • It's generally much cheaper
  • You can research the components before hand to ensure you're buying good quality ones - prebuilt PC's save by skimping on some crucial components such as PSUs, SSD's, motherboards
    • Buy an unlocked processor so you can overclock and get more performance for your money
    • Same goes for memory/graphics card
  • The experience - it's quite straight forward to build your first PC and it opens a whole world of ideas
  • You can upgrade whenever you want; if you can build your own PC, you can sure as hell upgrade a PC's components.
  • When you buy prebuilts, it comes with a shit load of bloatware. I know this is an easy fix, but still, who likes bloatware?

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Well you certainly chose an interesting topic. Here are some ideas.

 

  • Low quality. Pre-builts are often throwaway because they are usually outdated and use bottom end components. This goes without saying, but they cost too much.
  • Flexibility. You can build a computer to your use-case scenario.
  • RMA. Quite often components individually have better warranties and this also allows you to send them back individually meaning you may still be able to use your computer during that period of time.
  • Upgrades (flows on from point 1). Building your own computer gives you the ability to upgrade individual components as they go bad or exceed their usefulness which may not be possible on a pre-built due to proprietary connectors, cheap and barely adequate power supply or even a case that is of inadequate size or airflow.
  • Knowledge. Building a computer encourages you to understand the internals a bit better gives you the ability to troubleshoot yourself. Also small things such as knowledge of driver updates resulting in decent performance increases for free which an uninformed user would not know about.
  • Resale. Owning a pre-built computer will encourage a user to use it until it comes to a point where the computer is unusable. This is a result of the exorbitant pricing and the large upfront cost of having to buy a whole computer in one purchase. At this point the computer is barely worth selling compared to someone who sold individual components as upgrades were needed.

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