Editing/Rendering and Streaming Rig

[Zelgiusthebrave]

I've been trying to figure out the answer to a question I've had about this new rig I need to build for myself. I say need because my brother will be headed off to college soon so I wanted to give him my old FX8350 rig to take with him since it's served me so well up till now. I'm also wanting to get much more serious with streaming and editing videos. I think we can all agree that any machine that is capable of rendering video is also good enough for gaming, right? That said here's what I'm after:

 

My initial plan was to go the lower end route to save money and because absolutely crazy fast render times are not a problem for me, so I was going to go with the 6700k. The issue with that is I cannot find anywhere an answer to the question, "How much more worth it would it be to go with x99 over z170?" Obviously it depends on the amount of work I would be doing that would need the CPU strength, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, if the price is right would it still be just fine to go with 6700k over say a 5820k? Not only that, but the spacing for the PCI slots on z170 seem much more friendly to non-blower style GPU and I have a MSI 980Ti with the Twin Frozr on it so if I can avoid it I'd rather not have my cards piled together closely on the off chance I get a 2nd one for SLI. 

 

If it helps at all, I have the Acer Predator x34 monitor and plan to render/stream no higher than 1080 unless internet speeds turn in my favor. So would the 2 more cores (4 threads) end up benefiting me enough to justify the price?

[Omon_Ra]

I would go with X99. Depending on how you're encoding your streaming, you may want the extra threads for that. Were you going to be using a capture card or just XSplit/OBS? Keep in mind the 6700K only has 16 PCIe lanes; so even with a single GPU, it would have to run at 1x8 to free up lanes for any other PCIe devices. The 5820K has 28. Then you also have the upgrade path to Broadwell-e, should you have the money/urge.

[SeanAngelo]

41 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

I've been trying to figure out the answer to a question I've had about this new rig I need to build for myself. I say need because my brother will be headed off to college soon so I wanted to give him my old FX8350 rig to take with him since it's served me so well up till now. I'm also wanting to get much more serious with streaming and editing videos. I think we can all agree that any machine that is capable of rendering video is also good enough for gaming, right? That said here's what I'm after:

 

My initial plan was to go the lower end route to save money and because absolutely crazy fast render times are not a problem for me, so I was going to go with the 6700k. The issue with that is I cannot find anywhere an answer to the question, "How much more worth it would it be to go with x99 over z170?" Obviously it depends on the amount of work I would be doing that would need the CPU strength, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, if the price is right would it still be just fine to go with 6700k over say a 5820k? Not only that, but the spacing for the PCI slots on z170 seem much more friendly to non-blower style GPU and I have a MSI 980Ti with the Twin Frozr on it so if I can avoid it I'd rather not have my cards piled together closely on the off chance I get a 2nd one for SLI. 

 

If it helps at all, I have the Acer Predator x34 monitor and plan to render/stream no higher than 1080 unless internet speeds turn in my favor. So would the 2 more cores (4 threads) end up benefiting me enough to justify the price?

wait for the 6800k and EVGA SC GTX 1080 to come out

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($440.00) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($103.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($193.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($58.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($117.99 @ Micro Center) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($650.00) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1889.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 14:31 EDT-0400

[Zelgiusthebrave]

57 minutes ago, Omon_Ra said:

I would go with X99. Depending on how you're encoding your streaming, you may want the extra threads for that. Were you going to be using a capture card or just XSplit/OBS? Keep in mind the 6700K only has 16 PCIe lanes; so even with a single GPU, it would have to run at 1x8 to free up lanes for any other PCIe devices. The 5820K has 28. Then you also have the upgrade path to Broadwell-e, should you have the money/urge.

I have Mirillis Action for PC recording and an Elgato HD60 Pro (PCI version) for others. And you're right, the 6700k only has 16 PCI lanes, but the z170 chipset has more on it through the PCH so I should have enough lanes either way.

 

31 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

wait for the 6800k and EVGA SC GTX 1080 to come out

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($440.00) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($103.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($193.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($58.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($117.99 @ Micro Center) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($650.00) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1889.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 14:31 EDT-0400

I didn't even know the broadwell-e series was coming out this soon (as in already has prices and such.) That to me just says if I went this route Haswell-e will drop in price but I guess since it's still x99 I'd be able to upgrade if I wanted. And there's no need for me to get a 1080 since I already have a 980Ti that's not even 4 months old, if anything I'd get a second one of those since there's no reason to upgrade to the "cutting edge" of the GPU realm.

 

Here are the two part lists I have for how I'd like it configured, since I'm trying to stick to the red and black thing I've already got going, wouldn't mind white if the ASUS X99 Deluxe wasn't so expensive...

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmhpZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmhpZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($202.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.21 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $623.00) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($664.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT Noctis 450 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($90.99 @ NZXT) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VE198T 19.0" Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $1299.98) 
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $99.99) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $64.99) 
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  (Purchased For $79.99) 
Other: NZXT Hue+ ($59.99)
Other: MSI SLI Bridge (Purchased For $29.99)
Total: $4441.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 15:13 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBtYcc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBtYcc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($250.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.21 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $623.00) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($664.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT Noctis 450 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($90.99 @ NZXT) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VE198T 19.0" Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $1299.98) 
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $99.99) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $64.99) 
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  (Purchased For $79.99) 
Other: NZXT Hue+ ($59.99)
Other: MSI SLI Bridge ($29.99)
Total: $4520.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 15:15 EDT-0400

[Omon_Ra]

11 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

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For your X99 build, I'd drop the H110i and get an air tower. I have an H100i with my 5930K, and while I have had zero problems with it; the LED is kind of annoying at night and it just isn't that great. The temps aren't drastically different between the H100i and most of the bigger air coolers, the pump is kind of noisy and the stock fans are basically jet engines above 60%. And then you do have to worry about a failure of the pump, leaks and just generally more points of failure than an air cooler. If you're going to water cool, go full custom loop. That's my plan at least.

 

Paul's Hardware just did a review of the 6950X using a smaller, single tower Enermax air cooler; and even with the 10 core/20 thread monster that is the 6950X, his temps only really maxed out around 80*C overclocked, IIRC. Stock I think it was maxing out around 50*C. He did maybe hit TJMax when he had a lot of volts pushing through it, but that seemed to be more of his error than the cooler.

 

You could also drop to 16GB of RAM. I have 32GB in mine, and the only time it goes beyond 16GB is rendering bigger After Effects projects. If you're mostly doing compilations and nothing too heavy, visual effects wise, 16GB should be fine. I would also get two 2TB WD Black's versus a single 4TB drive. 3 and 4 TB drives tend to fail more than the 1 and 2TB drives. My 3TB had to get RMA'd two times before I got a working one. Thank god nothing was really on them before they died. You may also want another cheap SSD (256 or 516GB) for your scratch disk, rendered files, export and for recording your footage to. Because it's mostly all temporary files, it doesn't have to be a high end drive, just something with decent speeds and enough capacity.

 

You may also want to consider the SLI proposition; I'd stick with a single 980Ti as SLI is still kind of wonky with some games and I'm not even sure if Premiere supports SLI (I remember reading somewhere that support may be coming, but I haven't kept up on it). I'd use that money on something else; or save it for the 1080Ti/Pascal Titan. Some will say your PSU is overkill, but I also have a 1000 watt PSU. The fan never has to spin up and my typical power draw sits in the optimum efficiency range for my PSU. I'd rather have a 1000 watt PSU barely breaking a sweat than say a 500 watt being pushed to the limit all the time.

[Zelgiusthebrave]

5 minutes ago, Omon_Ra said:

For your X99 build, I'd drop the H110i and get an air tower. I have an H100i with my 5930K, and while I have had zero problems with it; the LED is kind of annoying at night and it just isn't that great. The temps aren't drastically different between the H100i and most of the bigger air coolers, the pump is kind of noisy and the stock fans are basically jet engines above 60%. And then you do have to worry about a failure of the pump, leaks and just generally more points of failure than an air cooler. If you're going to water cool, go full custom loop. That's my plan at least.

 

Paul's Hardware just did a review of the 6950X using a smaller, single tower Enermax air cooler; and even with the 10 core/20 thread monster that is the 6950X, his temps only really maxed out around 80*C overclocked, IIRC. Stock I think it was maxing out around 50*C. He did maybe hit TJMax when he had a lot of volts pushing through it, but that seemed to be more of his error than the cooler.

 

You could also drop to 16GB of RAM. I have 32GB in mine, and the only time it goes beyond 16GB is rendering bigger After Effects projects. If you're mostly doing compilations and nothing too heavy, visual effects wise, 16GB should be fine. I would also get two 2TB WD Black's versus a single 4TB drive. 3 and 4 TB drives tend to fail more than the 1 and 2TB drives. My 3TB had to get RMA'd two times before I got a working one. Thank god nothing was really on them before they died. You may also want another cheap SSD (256 or 516GB) for your scratch disk, rendered files, export and for recording your footage to. Because it's mostly all temporary files, it doesn't have to be a high end drive, just something with decent speeds and enough capacity.

 

You may also want to consider the SLI proposition; I'd stick with a single 980Ti as SLI is still kind of wonky with some games and I'm not even sure if Premiere supports SLI (I remember reading somewhere that support may be coming, but I haven't kept up on it). I'd use that money on something else; or save it for the 1080Ti/Pascal Titan. Some will say your PSU is overkill, but I also have a 1000 watt PSU. The fan never has to spin up and my typical power draw sits in the optimum efficiency range for my PSU. I'd rather have a 1000 watt PSU barely breaking a sweat than say a 500 watt being pushed to the limit all the time.

I know the risks of liquid cooling setups and I'm fine with them. I also would prefer them to air since my current rig (which is AMD based so it already runs hotter) keeps my room perfectly heated in the winter time (which can get fairly chilly in Missouri) so I planned to keep using it as my space heater along with my headphone amp haha.

 

Since I'm probably going to do a lot of my own editing I'd rather stick to 32 gigs since there is a good chance I'll be making all my own effects and the like. As for the 1-2 TB HDD idea I've considered it since I've lately heard the same. I've thought about getting an external enclosure attached to my network to use for storage but might still keep a single 2 TB drive in the machine just for on hand mass storage. As for the scratch disk thing, I've heard of this before but never once seen one in person, how it was implemented, or anything like that. Is it really worth looking into? Something like a small 120GB SSD or something?

 

And as for the GPU, I'll try and consider the 1080 once I see if the benefits in editing/rendering, etc. type functions is worth it and sell my 980Ti for one so I guess we will see. And I agree. I have a 860W in my AMD machine right now and it's never let me down, plus AMD tends to take more power to run so I'm fine with going a little overkill on a PSU.

 

I should also mention fan noise doesn't bother me as much as it does most others, call me weird, but I never even notice it unless I focus on trying to hear it.

[Omon_Ra]

5 minutes ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

I know the risks of liquid cooling setups and I'm fine with them. I also would prefer them to air since my current rig (which is AMD based so it already runs hotter) keeps my room perfectly heated in the winter time (which can get fairly chilly in Missouri) so I planned to keep using it as my space heater along with my headphone amp haha.

 

Since I'm probably going to do a lot of my own editing I'd rather stick to 32 gigs since there is a good chance I'll be making all my own effects and the like. As for the 1-2 TB HDD idea I've considered it since I've lately heard the same. I've thought about getting an external enclosure attached to my network to use for storage but might still keep a single 2 TB drive in the machine just for on hand mass storage. As for the scratch disk thing, I've heard of this before but never once seen one in person, how it was implemented, or anything like that. Is it really worth looking into? Something like a small 120GB SSD or something?

 

And as for the GPU, I'll try and consider the 1080 once I see if the benefits in editing/rendering, etc. type functions is worth it and sell my 980Ti for one so I guess we will see. And I agree. I have a 860W in my AMD machine right now and it's never let me down, plus AMD tends to take more power to run so I'm fine with going a little overkill on a PSU.

 

I should also mention fan noise doesn't bother me as much as it does most others, call me weird, but I never even notice it unless I focus on trying to hear it.

Yeah, go with 32GB then. DDR4 prices have come down a lot since I built, so it's a lot more affordable to do so. I'm looking to get 64GB soon just because the empty RAM slots bother my OCD..haha. And the AIO cooler is obviously fine; it's definitely a personal preference thing. If you have the money (and room in your case) definitely not a bad option.

 

For the storage, a network attached drive will be great for backups/long term storage, but I personally would rather have my working files on my computer, though the prevalence of 10GB (and faster) networking is kind of making that a moot point. You could get a small 120/128GB for your scratch disk, it doesn't need to be much. I use a 256GB drive, but I also use that for certain games (Skyrim, Star Citizen) as well. In your Premiere (or AE, or other Adobe CC products) settings you can choose where your rendered files go, along with your scratch disk(s). It's hard to tell how much of a difference it makes, since I went from editing on a MacBook Pro-like laptop to a full on X99 rig, but it is nice.

 

Your GPU really doesn't make a huge difference for editing. CUDA/OpenGL acceleration is really for playback and certain effects when they are unrendered. The actual rendering is still done by the CPU. Once you have a decent GPU, the gains from a newer one are going to be minimal; gaming will obviously see the biggest increase. Keep in mind, I also am only working with 1080p/24fps and 720p/60fps footage, no 4K yet; so I can't really speak to it on that front. And once you start adding several effects, even with CUDA acceleration, you'll still need to actually render it out to get smooth playback.

[SeanAngelo]

1 hour ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

I have Mirillis Action for PC recording and an Elgato HD60 Pro (PCI version) for others. And you're right, the 6700k only has 16 PCI lanes, but the z170 chipset has more on it through the PCH so I should have enough lanes either way.

 

I didn't even know the broadwell-e series was coming out this soon (as in already has prices and such.) That to me just says if I went this route Haswell-e will drop in price but I guess since it's still x99 I'd be able to upgrade if I wanted. And there's no need for me to get a 1080 since I already have a 980Ti that's not even 4 months old, if anything I'd get a second one of those since there's no reason to upgrade to the "cutting edge" of the GPU realm.

 

Here are the two part lists I have for how I'd like it configured, since I'm trying to stick to the red and black thing I've already got going, wouldn't mind white if the ASUS X99 Deluxe wasn't so expensive...

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmhpZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmhpZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($202.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.21 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $623.00) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($664.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT Noctis 450 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($90.99 @ NZXT) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VE198T 19.0" Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $1299.98) 
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $99.99) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $64.99) 
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  (Purchased For $79.99) 
Other: NZXT Hue+ ($59.99)
Other: MSI SLI Bridge (Purchased For $29.99)
Total: $4441.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 15:13 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBtYcc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBtYcc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($250.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.21 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $623.00) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($664.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT Noctis 450 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($90.99 @ NZXT) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VE198T 19.0" Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $1299.98) 
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $99.99) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $64.99) 
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  (Purchased For $79.99) 
Other: NZXT Hue+ ($59.99)
Other: MSI SLI Bridge ($29.99)
Total: $4520.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 15:15 EDT-0400

wait, so what do you want me to do with these two configurations? edit them or...?

[Zelgiusthebrave]

14 minutes ago, Omon_Ra said:

Yeah, go with 32GB then. DDR4 prices have come down a lot since I built, so it's a lot more affordable to do so. I'm looking to get 64GB soon just because the empty RAM slots bother my OCD..haha. And the AIO cooler is obviously fine; it's definitely a personal preference thing. If you have the money (and room in your case) definitely not a bad option.

 

For the storage, a network attached drive will be great for backups/long term storage, but I personally would rather have my working files on my computer, though the prevalence of 10GB (and faster) networking is kind of making that a moot point. You could get a small 120/128GB for your scratch disk, it doesn't need to be much. I use a 256GB drive, but I also use that for certain games (Skyrim, Star Citizen) as well. In your Premiere (or AE, or other Adobe CC products) settings you can choose where your rendered files go, along with your scratch disk(s). It's hard to tell how much of a difference it makes, since I went from editing on a MacBook Pro-like laptop to a full on X99 rig, but it is nice.

 

Your GPU really doesn't make a huge difference for editing. CUDA/OpenGL acceleration is really for playback and certain effects when they are unrendered. The actual rendering is still done by the CPU. Once you have a decent GPU, the gains from a newer one are going to be minimal; gaming will obviously see the biggest increase. Keep in mind, I also am only working with 1080p/24fps and 720p/60fps footage, no 4K yet; so I can't really speak to it on that front. And once you start adding several effects, even with CUDA acceleration, you'll still need to actually render it out to get smooth playback.

I'll keep that in mind for sure then. And yeah, Star Citizen being the size that CIG estimated it would be when completed is gonna be pretty consuming. I may just bite the bullet and get larger than 512 SSD, or at least think about it. I may also wait and see the differences from the 5820k to the 6800k and see if it'd be worth it to do that.

 

And yeah I'll be doing the same with footage, I don't believe 4k is still worth getting into from a consumer standpoint just yet so Ill be working with 1080/720 footage (from games and GoPro since I wanna maybe do some motovlogging on my FZ6R and Wave Runners along with the gaming.) 

18 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

wait, so what do you want me to do with these two configurations? edit them or...?

Not if you don't want to, I really posted them to show I had a plan sorta laid out but didn't know whether to go with Skylake or Haswell-E, plus the part list you sent was great but not the right colors (I'm picky haha) but I do appreciate the help from you both! 

[SeanAngelo]

2 hours ago, Zelgiusthebrave said:

I'll keep that in mind for sure then. And yeah, Star Citizen being the size that CIG estimated it would be when completed is gonna be pretty consuming. I may just bite the bullet and get larger than 512 SSD, or at least think about it. I may also wait and see the differences from the 5820k to the 6800k and see if it'd be worth it to do that.

 

And yeah I'll be doing the same with footage, I don't believe 4k is still worth getting into from a consumer standpoint just yet so Ill be working with 1080/720 footage (from games and GoPro since I wanna maybe do some motovlogging on my FZ6R and Wave Runners along with the gaming.) 

Not if you don't want to, I really posted them to show I had a plan sorta laid out but didn't know whether to go with Skylake or Haswell-E, plus the part list you sent was great but not the right colors (I'm picky haha) but I do appreciate the help from you both! 

i'll edit the one i did to suit your theme

 

EDIT: here, the MSI is the only black/red motherboard for X99  and it turns out the 6800k is actually now on sale

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($449.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($250.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($219.21 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($196.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $623.00) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($664.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($83.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VE198T 19.0" Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 100Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $1299.98) 
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $99.99) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $64.99) 
Speakers: Logitech Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers  (Purchased For $79.99) 
Other: NZXT Hue+ ($59.99)
Other: MSI SLI Bridge (Purchased For $29.99)
Total: $4584.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-01 19:00 EDT-0400