1080 vs. 1080 Ti (Next Year)

[AndyKala]

I decided to build a gaming pc, but I need to wait a year to save up some money. I will be going with a X99 chipset, with intels new Broadwell - E chips. I need to build this pc in exactly a year (May - June 2017). My question is, should I buy a 1080 next year, when it is a lot cheaper, or buy the 1080 Ti when it is released around that time. I don't think I will need anything more power hungry than a 1080, but I also don't want a last gen card (1180 will be out soon that time). Budget is also a concern. I don't want to spend over $2,600 (including monitor). I plan on doing 4k gaming as well. Basically, what would be the best Nvidia GPU to buy next year for 4k gaming?

[Lays]

Just save your money now if you don't have the funds right this second.  Figure out what to do when you're a few weeks away from buying it.

There's no sense planning almost a year in advance, when we have no idea what will happen in the meantime.

[SeanAngelo]

2 minutes ago, AndyKala said:

I decided to build a gaming pc, but I need to wait a year to save up some money. I will be going with a X99 chipset, with intels new Broadwell - E chips. I need to build this pc in exactly a year (May - June 2017). My question is, should I buy a 1080 next year, when it is a lot cheaper, or buy the 1080 Ti when it is released around that time. I don't think I will need anything more power hungry than a 1080, but I also don't want a last gen card (1180 will be out soon that time). Budget is also a concern. I don't want to spend over $2,600 (including monitor). I plan on doing 4k gaming as well. Basically, what would be the best Nvidia GPU to buy next year for 4k gaming?

1080Ti. Why buy an old card when there is a new one? I mean, yeah it will be cheaper...

[ANewFace]

Now you see, you are caught in this, well should I wait for the next thing?, train that so many people get stuck in. If you keep saying should I get this I should I wait for the next thing? Then you could do that forever. I agree with waiting for the broadwell X99 chips, but when it comes to waiting for the 1080 ti, I wouldn't. And who ever said it would be way cheaper? $50 less at best. Just go for the 1080 if you build it before march of next year, just don't wait till may 2018 for the 1180, that's such a long wait and it's not worth it

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

Now you see, you are caught in this, well should I wait for the next thing?, train that so many people get stuck in. If you keep saying should I get this I should I wait for the next thing? Then you could do that forever. I agree with waiting for the broadwell X99 chips, but when it comes to waiting for the 1080 ti, I wouldn't. And who ever said it would be way cheaper? $50 less at best. Just go for the 1080 if you build it before march of next year, just don't wait till may 2018 for the 1180, that's such a long wait and it's not worth it

Wait, the 1180 is coming in 2018? I thought it would be released May 2017..

[ANewFace]

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

Wait, the 1180 is coming in 2018? I thought it would be released May 2017..

Nope, 1180 comes out 2018, they refresh the architecture every 2 years, 1180 will be volta

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

Nope, 1180 comes out 2018, they refresh the architecture every 2 years, 1180 will be volta

Well, this changes everything. I guess I will get the 1080. Should I run SLI with it when Volta comes out?

[ANewFace]

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

Well, this changes everything. I guess I will get the 1080. Should I run SLI with it when Volta comes out?

Depends on how cheap you get the second card, personally I like to buy just one of the x80 class GPU and just go to the next one when it comes out every 2 years, (although this year I might pick up 2 1080s)

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

Depends on how cheap you get the second card, personally I like to buy just one of the x80 class GPU and just go to the next one when it comes out every 2 years, (although this year I might pick up 2 1080s)

I feel the same way, I feel like the 1080 will be great in SLI because of the new bridges. Plus, the 1080 will be cheaper when Volta is soon to be released.

[lonewolf5460]

I am in a similar situation just wait if nothing good comes from amd soon I am going intel and nvida. If I do I want a 1080 ti I am waiting for tax season next year I want at least ten cores, 64 gb and 1080s in sli if I dont buy a ti. Good thing is I have a nice enough case storage ands psu so I will only need motherboard cpu ram and gpus and I am planning to drop 2k on just those parts I cant wait. Right now I am shopping for a good deal on an ultrawide monitor.

[ANewFace]

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

I feel the same way, I feel like the 1080 will be great in SLI because of the new bridges. Plus, the 1080 will be cheaper when Volta is soon to be released.

No I mean I might pickup to 1080s this year, not when volta is released, IDK if it's worth it to frop money in an old architecture when a new one is out. Also FYI the new bridges aren't really anything special like Nvidia advertises, apparently Nvidia said that even though they aren't officially supporting 3 way or 4 way SLI, if you do get the enthusiasts key which enables it, they said that the regular rigid SLI bridges are plenty capable of supporting the bandwidth for 3 way or 4 way SLI.   

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

No I mean I might pickup to 1080s this year, not when volta is released, IDK if it's worth it to frop money in an old architecture when a new one is out. Also FYI the new bridges aren't really anything special like Nvidia advertises, apparently Nvidia said that even though they aren't officially supporting 3 way or 4 way SLI, if you do get the enthusiasts key which enables it, they said that the regular rigid SLI bridges are plenty capable of supporting the bandwidth for 3 way or 4 way SLI.   

Oh, well I'm not sure if I will be running SLI yet, but I am happy that I at least decided on a GPU.

[ANewFace]

4 minutes ago, lonewolf5460 said:

I am in a similar situation just wait if nothing good comes from amd soon I am going intel and nvida. If I do I want a 1080 ti I am waiting for tax season next year I want at least ten cores, 64 gb and 1080s in sli if I dont buy a ti. Good thing is I have a nice enough case storage ands psu so I will only need motherboard cpu ram and gpus and I am planning to drop 2k on just those parts I cant wait. Right now I am shopping for a good deal on an ultrawide monitor.

You are going to need more than 2K buddy, i7 6950X that is 10 cores if going to be $1500, 1080s are going to be $650 each, motherboard is going to run you at least $250, and 64gb of RAM is going to run you $250. You are going to need over 3K 

[AndyKala]

2 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

You are going to need more than 2K buddy, i7 6950X that is 10 cores if going to be $1500, 1080s are going to be $650 each, motherboard is going to run you at least $250, and 64gb of RAM is going to run you $250. You are going to need over 3K 

I don't plan on getting the 6950X, I want the 6800K. And I plan on going with 16GB of RAM. 

[AndyKala]

3 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

You are going to need more than 2K buddy, i7 6950X that is 10 cores if going to be $1500, 1080s are going to be $650 each, motherboard is going to run you at least $250, and 64gb of RAM is going to run you $250. You are going to need over 3K 

 

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

I don't plan on getting the 6950X, I want the 6800K. And I plan on going with 16GB of RAM. 

Plus, I won't be getting the 2nd card for a while lol.

[ANewFace]

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

I don't plan on getting the 6950X, I want the 6800K. And I plan on going with 16GB of RAM. 

Yeah, I didn't intend that for you, I'm probably going to get the 6900K myself

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

Yeah, I didn't intend that for you, I'm probably going to get the 6900K myself

Oh I'm so dumb, I though I was quoted in that, sorry mate.

[lonewolf5460]

4 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

You are going to need more than 2K buddy, i7 6950X that is 10 cores if going to be $1500, 1080s are going to be $650 each, motherboard is going to run you at least $250, and 64gb of RAM is going to run you $250. You are going to need over 3K 

I am going to look for deals and i can just get one gpu and another later on. I always though the extreme editions were 1000 when the hell did the bump it up to 1500. AMD needs to step it up intel can just charge whatever right now. In that case ill drop down to an 8 core i7, get 32gb first and one 1080 maybe ti then add on to that later.

[ANewFace]

2 minutes ago, lonewolf5460 said:

I am going to look for deals and i can just get one gpu and another later on. I always though the extreme editions were 1000 when the hell did the bump it up to 1500. AMD needs to step it up intel can just charge whatever right now. In that case ill drop down to an 8 core i7, get 32gb first and one 1080 maybe ti then add on to that later.

They are steeping up the 10 core to $1500, the 8 core 6900K is going to be $1000 like it is now, and don't expect AMD to come out with anything that competes with extreme editions

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, ANewFace said:

They are steeping up the 10 core to $1500, the 8 core 6900K is going to be $1000 like it is now, and don't expect AMD to come out with anything that competes with extreme editions

Hey, if I were to run SLI, should I buy the "last gen" bridge, or get the current one. I prefer the custom ones from laster year, like the EVGA ones.

[ANewFace]

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

Hey, if I were to run SLI, should I buy the "last gen" bridge, or get the current one. I prefer the custom ones from laster year, like the EVGA ones.

Doesn't matter 

[lonewolf5460]

3 minutes ago, ANewFace said:

They are steeping up the 10 core to $1500, the 8 core 6900K is going to be $1000 like it is now, and don't expect AMD to come out with anything that competes with extreme editions

Yah I know sadly I can only hope though. What intel cpu has the most pci lanes without killing my wallet I want at least 6 cores, but I know for gaming 4 with ht is fine. I want to go intel just for nvme 2 samsung ssds in raid 0 would be pretty nuts.

[ANewFace]

1 minute ago, lonewolf5460 said:

Yah I know sadly I can only hope though. What intel cpu has the most pci lanes without killing my wallet I want at least 6 cores, but I know for gaming 4 with ht is fine.

the 6850K 6 core will have 40 lanes for $600

[AndyKala]

1 minute ago, lonewolf5460 said:

Yah I know sadly I can only hope though. What intel cpu has the most pci lanes without killing my wallet I want at least 6 cores, but I know for gaming 4 with ht is fine.

Currently, its the 5930K. 40 PCIe lanes, 6 cores, and I think you can find one for $560.

[lonewolf5460]

1 minute ago, AndyKala said:

Currently, its the 5930K. 40 PCIe lanes, 6 cores, and I think you can find one for $560.

Is that enough for 2 gpus and 2 nvme ssds in raid 0. Also I cant remember but i know only a few boards support raid 0 on nvme on m.2 know of one?