Gigabyte AMD 970 Motherboard

[MajorGoob]

I have an AMD FX 8300 for my system so far, and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on this board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128602&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= 

 

I am looking to do some minor overclocking, but not spend 120 dollars on a motherboard. 70-90 USD is the current amount I am willing to pay. I noticed that this board was a LOT cheaper and had some concerns. Opinions appreciated!

[LeStringMan]

39 minutes ago, MajorGoob said:

I have an AMD FX 8300 for my system so far, and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on this board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128602&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= 

 

I am looking to do some minor overclocking, but not spend 120 dollars on a motherboard. 70-90 USD is the current amount I am willing to pay. I noticed that this board was a LOT cheaper and had some concerns. Opinions appreciated!

This board has better power delivery and would be capable of higher overclocks, 89.99 plus 10 dollar mail in rebate and 15% off select Gigabyte AMD boards (that promo ends today)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651

 

This ASRock board is not bad either, again it has a better power phase than the board you listed, and also newer features such as M.2 etc.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157688&cm_re=asrock_970-_-13-157-688-_-Product

[Benji_w]

44 minutes ago, MajorGoob said:

I have an AMD FX 8300 for my system so far, and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on this board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128602&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= 

 

I am looking to do some minor overclocking, but not spend 120 dollars on a motherboard. 70-90 USD is the current amount I am willing to pay. I noticed that this board was a LOT cheaper and had some concerns. Opinions appreciated!

 

5 minutes ago, LeStringMan said:

This board has better power delivery and would be capable of higher overclocks, 89.99 plus 10 dollar mail in rebate and 15% off select Gigabyte AMD boards (that promo ends today)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651

 

This ASRock board is not bad either, again it has a better power phase than the board you listed, and also newer features such as M.2 etc.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157688&cm_re=asrock_970-_-13-157-688-_-Product

Don't get any of those, if you're doing light overclocking get one of these. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132713R 

 

Gigabyte build quality on a better newer board will make you happy those other boards are well... I wouldn't touch them with a stock 8350.

[Nena Trinity]

4+1 VRM wont handle much OCing or even running the CPU without issues maybe depends on the VRM quality... (that board is clearly built for 95W in mind)

[LeStringMan]

10 minutes ago, Benji_w said:

 

Don't get any of those, if you're doing light overclocking get one of these. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132713R 

 

Gigabyte build quality on a better newer board will make you happy those other boards are well... I wouldn't touch them with a stock 8350.

Well for light overclocking those boards should be ok, but that also depends on how you define light lol, that Asus board is undeniably better than the aforementioned boards, if the op does not mind buying open box items of course.

[MajorGoob]

1 hour ago, LeStringMan said:

Well for light overclocking those boards should be ok, but that also depends on how you define light lol, that Asus board is undeniably better than the aforementioned boards, if the op does not mind buying open box items of course.

I meant light as in not over 3.9 or 4 ghz.

[MajorGoob]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

4+1 VRM wont handle much OCing or even running the CPU without issues maybe depends on the VRM quality... (that board is clearly built for 95W in mind)

I figured it was a lower quality board. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't passing up on a big deal. Og du er fra Norge, ja?

[LeStringMan]

15 minutes ago, MajorGoob said:

I meant light as in not over 3.9 or 4 ghz.

For 4ghz the ASRock or Gigabyte 970A-UD3P should do that fine, the MSI 970 gaming is also on sale on newegg for 89.99 right now, or like @Benji_w said the Asus 970 Aura is an excellent board for a little more, or you could buy the open box option.

[Benji_w]

50 minutes ago, MajorGoob said:

I meant light as in not over 3.9 or 4 ghz.

When it comes to overclocking the FX line of CPUs the biggest issue you face is VRM quality and heat of both the VRM and the CPU. Please just spend good money once rather than getting a sub par POS that you'll be unhappy with then slate the FX line up because of your poor decision making in the long run. I have an 8350 at 5ghz, it performs just slightly less than my i5 4670k because I've spent good money once.

[MajorGoob]

1 hour ago, Benji_w said:

When it comes to overclocking the FX line of CPUs the biggest issue you face is VRM quality and heat of both the VRM and the CPU. Please just spend good money once rather than getting a sub par POS that you'll be unhappy with then slate the FX line up because of your poor decision making in the long run. I have an 8350 at 5ghz, it performs just slightly less than my i5 4670k because I've spent good money once.

I wasnt planning on skimping. I definitely believe in measure twice cut once as well. So I am really just testing the waters as I cant find any info on the AMD boards. I can for all of the Intel boards, but not the AMD ones. So I just decided to poke around some forums and hope I get an answer. 

[Prysin]

5 hours ago, MajorGoob said:

I have an AMD FX 8300 for my system so far, and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on this board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128602&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= 

 

I am looking to do some minor overclocking, but not spend 120 dollars on a motherboard. 70-90 USD is the current amount I am willing to pay. I noticed that this board was a LOT cheaper and had some concerns. Opinions appreciated!

get the ASRock 970A-G/3.1

that is the cheapest board you can get that will let you do high overclocks. Also one of the best mobos feature wise.

[Benji_w]

2 minutes ago, Prysin said:

get the ASRock 970A-G/3.1

that is the cheapest board you can get that will let you do high overclocks. Also one of the best mobos feature wise.

Ah really? Higher than a 990FX board? Can you show me some valid results showing stress test passes? Would be great.

[Prysin]

3 minutes ago, Benji_w said:

Ah really? Higher than a 990FX board? Can you show me some valid results showing stress test passes? Would be great.

its a 71 USD 8+2 phase board. if you are retarded enough to think that it will beat a Extreme 9, Sabertooth or Formula board, then there is no saving you.

 

But at 71 USD, it is the best board you can get for overclocking that ISNT a 990FX board. It is arguably way better then most MSI boards anyway.

 

I also said it is best, feature wise.

It features:

USB Type A and C 3.1 10GBs (Asmedia controller)

M.2 4x PCIe Gen2 20GBs (only the Gigabyte 990FX G1 Gaming can match that).

in addition to all the normal 970 stuff.

 

 

[Benji_w]

2 minutes ago, Prysin said:

its a 71 USD 8+2 phase board. if you are retarded enough to think that it will beat a Extreme 9, Sabertooth or Formula board, then there is no saving you.

 

But at 71 USD, it is the best board you can get for overclocking that ISNT a 990FX board. It is arguably way better then most MSI boards anyway.

 

 

There's no helping you recommending an MSI or ASRock board for an FX chip... The number of phases doesn't matter if they're shit quality which... MSI AND ASROCK both use, shit quality parts, hence the price. On the intel side however, different story.

[Prysin]

1 minute ago, Benji_w said:

There's no helping you recommending an MSI or ASRock board for an FX chip... The number of phases doesn't matter if they're shit quality which... MSI AND ASROCK both use, shit quality parts, hence the price. On the intel side however, different story.

i have yet to have issues with ASRock boards aslong as their VRMs are cooled.

MSI uses shit parts AND no VRM protection of any sort outside of the 970 Gaming and 990FX Gaming. ASRock features OCP and OVP in addition to VRM thermal protection. 

 

Sure, they may be using doublers, but you should still be easily able to get a 6300/6350 or 8320 to 4.5GHz stable, aslong as you do not need to go above 1.4250v. Ofc, you DO need a fan blowing over the board. So AIOs will hurt the mobos performance, as they always do.

[Benji_w]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

i have yet to have issues with ASRock boards aslong as their VRMs are cooled.

MSI uses shit parts AND no VRM protection of any sort outside of the 970 Gaming and 990FX Gaming. ASRock features OCP and OVP in addition to VRM thermal protection. 

 

Sure, they may be using doublers, but you should still be easily able to get a 6300/6350 or 8320 to 4.5GHz stable, aslong as you do not need to go above 1.4250v. Ofc, you DO need a fan blowing over the board. So AIOs will hurt the mobos performance, as they always do.

Ah I see, Buy extra fans so the board doesn't erupt into flames for a slightly higher oc than stock volts. Well worth the cash!

[Prysin]

1 minute ago, Benji_w said:

Ah I see, Buy extra fans so the board doesn't erupt into flames for a slightly higher oc than stock volts. Well worth the cash!

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4.4GHz 1.4v FX8370, memory at 2400MHz... if they ran memory at 1866Mhz 1.35v they could have probably gotten the CPU to 4.5GHz.

 

Controller is a Digi VRM 2x4 phase +2x1 for memory. Not great, but electrically, it will be enought to handle 200-230w if your case has reasonable airflow.

Anyway, we are done here. All you want, is to argue that this board is worse then a 150-200 USD board. Which it is. 

 

It is however a better board then the UD3P simply based on features. It is pointless to push a FX CPU beyond 4.5GHz @ 1.425V, after that you just start spitting out more heat then you gain in performance. Memory speed above 1866 is also a waste, simply because the IMC in current CMT products doesnt perform as they theoretically should.

[Benji_w]

1 minute ago, Prysin said:

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4.4GHz 1.4v FX8370, memory at 2400MHz... if they ran memory at 1866Mhz 1.35v they could have probably gotten the CPU to 4.5GHz.

 

Controller is a Digi VRM 2x4 phase +2x1 for memory. Not great, but electrically, it will be enought to handle 200-230w if your case has reasonable airflow.

Anyway, we are done here. All you want, is to argue that this board is worse then a 150-200 USD board. Which it is. 

 

It is however a better board then the UD3P simply based on features. It is pointless to push a FX CPU beyond 4.5GHz @ 1.425V, after that you just start spitting out more heat then you gain in performance. Memory speed above 1866 is also a waste, simply because the IMC in current CMT products doesnt perform as they theoretically should.

Ah all us in the FX club wasting our time going to 5ghz then lol, oh Prysin, I want to like you but the stuff you come out with is borderline retarded.

[Prysin]

3 minutes ago, Benji_w said:

Ah all us in the FX club wasting our time going to 5ghz then lol, oh Prysin, I want to like you but the stuff you come out with is borderline retarded.

being in a fanclub based on a dead product is perhapps sadder then realizing how time moves on. That being said, atm i am playing with a i3 6100, and ill be honest, benchmarks say one thing, real user experience another.

 

Fact is Benji, your FX 8 at 5GHz, still performs worse then my i7 4790k at stock. In every way. And the sad fact is that for you to achieve those clock speeds, you have spent MORE money then my Intel i7 4790k + ASUS Maximus VII Hero cost me, simply because you NEED to watercool your entire system with a custom loop to keep it stable.

 

FX is not a high performance part, regardless what MHz it is running. The day you realize that, is the day you realize the price point it is worth buying FX at.

 

Today, in 2016, with Skylake being out and ZEN + Kaby Lake on the way, there is ZERO space for FX at a high price point.

FX only has a place in the i3 and below range. Why? because that is the ONLY place it can compete.

Ive built systems with i5 6500s, and sadly a 6300 at 4.6GHz matches a i5 6500 at stock in multi thread. A 6600k at 4-4.3GHz will very likely match your FX 8 at 5GHz. Despite half the core count.

 

you are so stuck up on a old outdated technology, and so blinded by your own irrelevant performance criteria, that you are blind to the reality of what makes a good value purchase.

 

But hey, you can keep stacking those GHz's all you want, your setup is irrelevant and flawed in todays system. Even at 5GHz, it is merely a mid-range performing CPU at the cost of a enthusiast grade X99 setup.

[MajorGoob]

8 hours ago, Prysin said:

being in a fanclub based on a dead product is perhapps sadder then realizing how time moves on. That being said, atm i am playing with a i3 6100, and ill be honest, benchmarks say one thing, real user experience another.

 

Fact is Benji, your FX 8 at 5GHz, still performs worse then my i7 4790k at stock. In every way. And the sad fact is that for you to achieve those clock speeds, you have spent MORE money then my Intel i7 4790k + ASUS Maximus VII Hero cost me, simply because you NEED to watercool your entire system with a custom loop to keep it stable.

 

FX is not a high performance part, regardless what MHz it is running. The day you realize that, is the day you realize the price point it is worth buying FX at.

 

Today, in 2016, with Skylake being out and ZEN + Kaby Lake on the way, there is ZERO space for FX at a high price point.

FX only has a place in the i3 and below range. Why? because that is the ONLY place it can compete.

Ive built systems with i5 6500s, and sadly a 6300 at 4.6GHz matches a i5 6500 at stock in multi thread. A 6600k at 4-4.3GHz will very likely match your FX 8 at 5GHz. Despite half the core count.

 

you are so stuck up on a old outdated technology, and so blinded by your own irrelevant performance criteria, that you are blind to the reality of what makes a good value purchase.

 

But hey, you can keep stacking those GHz's all you want, your setup is irrelevant and flawed in todays system. Even at 5GHz, it is merely a mid-range performing CPU at the cost of a enthusiast grade X99 setup.

Can we please not get into an argument? The forum rules specifically says no Intel/AMD fanboyism. All I did was ask a simple question, that could have been easily solved if no one got into arguments.

[LeStringMan]

48 minutes ago, MajorGoob said:

Can we please not get into an argument? The forum rules specifically says no Intel/AMD fanboyism. All I did was ask a simple question, that could have been easily solved if no one got into arguments.

Well  will attempt to answer your question without continuing this pissing match:

 

The Asus 970 Pro Gaming/Aura arguably has the best power delivery of any of the boards mentioned here with a true 7+1 phase it should be capable of the highest overclocks out of these boards.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132713&cm_re=asus_970_aura-_-13-132-713-_-Product

 

The ASRock 970A-G3.1 has an 8+2 (doubled 4+1) phase that will easily deliver enough power to do 4.4ghz, and has an excellent feature set for its price M.2, USB 3.1 etc.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157688&cm_re=ASrock_970-_-13-157-688-_-Product

 

The MSI 970 Gaming has a 6+2 phase (doubled 3+1) that should also hit around 4.4 ghz, however i would not go much higher than that.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=msi_970_gaming-_-13-130-790-_-Product

 

And lastly i mentioned the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P because you said you wanted to overclock,this board also features an 8+2 (doubled 4+1) phase, in fact it shares its vrm section with some of Gigabytes 990FX boards, it should (in theory) be capable of high overclocks as well, but the board is dated at this point, and overall is very poorly laid out, i simply mentioned it because it is quite capable in terms of power delivery.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651&cm_re=GA-970A-UD3P-_-13-128-651-_-Product

 

So to answer your question any of these boards are suitable for what you want to do, just pick whichever has the features you want, for whatever price you want to pay.

 

 

[Prysin]

2 hours ago, MajorGoob said:

Can we please not get into an argument? The forum rules specifically says no Intel/AMD fanboyism. All I did was ask a simple question, that could have been easily solved if no one got into arguments.

Well, unfortunatly, you managed to attract @Benji_w, which is arguably one of the biggest FX Fanboys on this forum. He knows his stuff, but like i said earlier, he is blinded by brand bias.

 

That being said, it was not my intention to cause such a fuss. He just ticks me off with his continued bias and blindness.

 

 

As for your question.

Gigabyte GA-970 UD3P
ASRock 970A-G/3.1

ASUS 970 GAMING

 

those three are the best choices. 

[Benji_w]

28 minutes ago, Prysin said:

Well, unfortunatly, you managed to attract @Benji_w, which is arguably one of the biggest FX Fanboys on this forum. He knows his stuff, but like i said earlier, he is blinded by brand bias.

 

That being said, it was not my intention to cause such a fuss. He just ticks me off with his continued bias and blindness.

 

 

As for your question.

Gigabyte GA-970 UD3P
ASRock 970A-G/3.1

ASUS 970 GAMING

 

those three are the best choices. 

Not really, I have an intel rig, but I'm still waiting for it to blow my socks off with this amazing performance everyone speaks of? 5 extra fps in games really isn't a huge leap in performance tbh. I'm not biased btw I just speak the truth, the UD3P will shit itself so will the ASRock, the asus is the best board.

 

The truth hurts Prysin but then again you've a lot to learn. Recommending a sub par product when the asus is the best bang for the buck is just silly is it not? I'm pretty sure you've said that to me a few times... Ironically. 

 

The amount of VRM isn't worth jack shit if the quality of the component is shit like ASRock love to do.

[Nena Trinity]

15 hours ago, MajorGoob said:

I figured it was a lower quality board. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't passing up on a big deal. Og du er fra Norge, ja?

Ja jeg er!

[MajorGoob]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

Ja jeg er!

Ja! Jeg likker norge! Still learning so if im rusty please excuse me. Jeg likker te med sitron, men ikke sukker. Jeg også likker ost smøbrød. Ha god dag!