Sound CARD

[CRNoBOG]

i have this turtle-beach px22 headphone can i use this sound card with it

 

 

[Gofspar]

Does the headphones have a removable 3.5mm jack connected to the included DAC?

 

I don't know why you would want this in the first place, not really worth spending this much on a sound card on a pair of crappy Turtle Beaches, lol.

[Dackzy]

if you want better sound quality get better headphones.

[manikyath]

Just now, Dackzy said:

if you want better sound quality get better headphones.

i've seen the guts of a turtle beach once, i'd reccomend you these over it:

[Dackzy]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i've seen the guts of a turtle beach once, i'd reccomend you these over it:

I can't see it

 

[manikyath]

Just now, Dackzy said:

I can't see it

 

basicly sennheiser's 10 dollar "office" headsets.

 

they output sound, and have a microphone.

and thats about all to be said.

[CRNoBOG]

7 minutes ago, Gofspar said:

Does the headphones have a removable 3.5mm jack connected to the included DAC?

 

I don't know why you would want this in the first place, not really worth spending this much on a sound card on a pair of crappy Turtle Beaches, lol.

i like Turtle beach and i can only get just the sound card and yes it has n removable 3.5mm jack but its short so i want to plug the 3.5mm jack of the inline amp into the sound card and the usb is for more power

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, CRNoBOG said:

i like Turtle beach and i can only get just the sound card and yes it has n removable 3.5mm jack but its short so i want to plug the 3.5mm jack of the inline amp into the sound card and the usb is for more power

dont.

 

everything you just said, dont.

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factually, i had someone that liked their turtle beach try out even my shitty sennheiser on ears, and they dumped their turtle beach for a sennheiser within a few weeks. said person pulled apart their turtle beach to see the guts, and it was an absolute joke, certainly for the price they go at.

 

do yourself a favor and get something like a hyperx cloud if you want a mic, or an actually decent pair of headphones if you dont want a mic.

[Dackzy]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

SNIP

Most headsets are a joke...

I sometimes fix headsets for my friends and they are a complete joke when you see what they have inside of them.

[CRNoBOG]

so the sound on the mobo will be good if i get goed mobo

[Dackzy]

Just now, CRNoBOG said:

so the sound on the mobo will be good if i get goed mobo

Yes and you dont even need to get one of the more expensive motherboards to get good onboard.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

Yes and you dont even need to get one of the more expensive motherboards to get good onboard.

honestly, if we scratch out "unnecessary" features, most modern motherboards basicly ship with the exact same audio solution.

[CRNoBOG]

so sound card can't help my shitty head but can help even more shittyy headphones

[Dackzy]

Just now, manikyath said:

honestly, if we scratch out "unnecessary" features, most modern motherboards basicly ship with the exact same audio solution.

Yeah untill you get upto the 300$+ range then they start to change.

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, CRNoBOG said:

so sound card can't help my shitty head but can help even more shittyy headphones

Nope shitty headphones will always be shitty headphones no matter what you connect them to

[manikyath]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

Yeah untill you get upto the 300$+ range then they start to change.

its still the same audio solution, they just implement it better.

 

honestly, external DACs probably arent even all too different either, they just do the implementation better, mostly to provide more power and have less noise.

 

EDIT quote from the guy from mayflower: "theres only so many ways to do it right"

[Dackzy]

Just now, manikyath said:

its still the same audio solution, they just implement it better.

 

honestly, external DACs probably arent even all too different either, they just do the implementation better, mostly to provide more power and have less noise.

The amp is the part that sees the most improvement, the dac just becomes more clean in its sound. You wont notice a difference between the onboard on a asus formula and a external dac and amp. The asus formula line up is generally the best motherboards when it comes to onboard.

[CRNoBOG]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

The amp is the part that sees the most improvement, the dac just becomes more clean in its sound. You wont notice a difference between the onboard on a asus formula and a external dac and amp. The asus formula line up is generally the best motherboards when it comes to onboard.

so not even asus formula motherboard will not help

 

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, CRNoBOG said:

so not even asus formula motherboard will not help

 

Nope. If you want better sound you will need to get better headphones or headset

[manikyath]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

The amp is the part that sees the most improvement, the dac just becomes more clean in its sound. You wont notice a difference between the onboard on a asus formula and a external dac and amp. The asus formula line up is generally the best motherboards when it comes to onboard.

well, the way to get a dac more clean is mostly by doing the circuitry around the actual chip better, most importantly clean power delivery, which is honestly the biggest issue inside a pc, and why schiit has stuff to improve the "clean-ness" of the USB signal.

 

i'd dare to say (aside from amp strength) motherboard audio is 80% there on the way to perfection, a shielded dac with clean power input is 90% there, and to get beyond that you'll be spending a fortune.

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as for the piece that lives on your head... a turtle beach is 50% there, something like hyperx clouds are maybe 70-80% there, the affordable audiophile gear is maybe 80-90% there, and beyond that you'll be spending a fortune.

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

well, the way to get a dac more clean is mostly by doing the circuitry around the actual chip better, most importantly clean power delivery, which is honestly the biggest issue inside a pc, and why schiit has stuff to improve the "clean-ness" of the USB signal.

 

i'd dare to say (aside from amp strength) motherboard audio is 80% there on the way to perfection, a shielded dac with clean power input is 90% there, and to get beyond that you'll be spending a fortune.

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as for the piece that lives on your head... a turtle beach is 50% there, something like hyperx clouds are maybe 70-80% there, the affordable audiophile gear is maybe 80-90% there, and beyond that you'll be spending a fortune.

Most people wont even be able to hear the diffrent between onboard if it is transparrent and a 1k dac and amp(not tube) if that is also transparrent.

If you want to get like 95% of the best sound quality you can get you will have to spend around 600$. I would say turtle beach is 40-45% and the clouds are about 60-65% and the 100-150$ headphones are about 75-85%. Most people will never need to get better headphones than the ones in the 100-150$ range.

[manikyath]

Just now, Dackzy said:

Most people wont even be able to hear the diffrent between onboard if it is transparrent and a 1k dac and amp(not tube) if that is also transparrent.

If you want to get like 95% of the best sound quality you can get you will have to spend around 600$. I would say turtle beach is 40-45% and the clouds are about 60-65% and the 100-150$ headphones are about 75-85%. Most people will never need to get better headphones than the ones in the 100-150$ range.

the reason i mostly say the clouds are 70-80% there is because probably 3/4ths of humanity is too deaf to hear the difference either way, because hearing just degrades over time.

 

i wouldnt as much rate it as for how perfect the solution is, but what percentage of humanity cannot hear the difference from perfection either way.

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for all i try, i cannot hear the difference between a 320Mbps MP3, and a 160Mbps ogg file.

[Dackzy]

3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

the reason i mostly say the clouds are 70-80% there is because probably 3/4ths of humanity is too deaf to hear the difference either way, because hearing just degrades over time.

 

i wouldnt as much rate it as for how perfect the solution is, but what percentage of humanity cannot hear the difference from perfection either way.

 

Yeah the normal human hearing sucks so much.

4 minutes ago, manikyath said:

for all i try, i cannot hear the difference between a 320Mbps MP3, and a 160Mbps ogg file.

The master of the song is the most important  I can hear the difference between 320Mbps MP3 and 160Mbps, but 16bit 44.1 kHz Flac and 320Mbps MP3 I can't hear the difference if the master on both is good.

[manikyath]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

Yeah the normal human hearing sucks so much.

The master of the song is the most important  I can hear the difference between 320Mbps MP3 and 160Mbps, but 16bit 44.1 kHz Flac and 320Mbps MP3 I can't hear the difference if the master on both is good.

as in i converted the MP3 to ogg vorbis with foobar

 

theres some specific points in some songs where i can hear the differences if i'm really listening for it (i studied for this shit, i know what to listen for, which makes it easier to hear the difference) but when you're just out on the go or listening while doing something else.. nope, not worth twice the filesize for me

[Dackzy]

33 minutes ago, manikyath said:

as in i converted the MP3 to ogg vorbis with foobar

 

theres some specific points in some songs where i can hear the differences if i'm really listening for it (i studied for this shit, i know what to listen for, which makes it easier to hear the difference) but when you're just out on the go or listening while doing something else.. nope, not worth twice the filesize for me

I just use free spotify on my phone, because I am to lazy to put my songs on my phone and it sounds just fine so why bother.