First time custom pc build.

[y_unit265]

Greetings fellow pc enthusiasts,

 

I've been working on my build for a couple months now, finalizing and realizing that I need to revise my build because something didn't quite fit. Now, one again, I've found a possible issue. Although this time, I was unable to find information about it. Once I got all my components together, which I will summarize and link below, I realized that I needed some sort of fan hub/controller. Now, I am using 3-pin fans and found a controller that allows for up to 10 fans to be connected, which is way more than I will ever need, however I'm fine with that. My power supply has a single 6-pin connection remaining after connecting all my other cables. Can I use this 6-pin connection to power the fan hub, or do I need to change something?

 

As for a part list:

• Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2
• Cpu: i7-3770 (taken from my current desktop)
• Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B75M-HD3
• GPU: Gigabyte Geforce 980 Ti
• Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (as if nobody here knows which cooler this is ^^)
• Ram: 2× 8GB Kingston HyperX Fury black (no nice link, as kingston doesn't have a product information page.)
• PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2
• SSD: Sandisk Ultra II SSD 960GB
• Other:
  • NZXT Grid Ten Port Fan Hub (outdated product, should I change to their grid+?)
  • 5× Fractal Design Silent Series R3, 120mm (Replacing the 3× r2 that come with the case, just to keep all the fans the same.)
  • 2× Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM, 120mm (For push-pull on the heatsink) 
  • Hyper 212 EVO accesories pack (for the mounting brackets, as I'd rather avoid zipties on the visible side)
  • 1 TB HDD (taken from my current desktop)
  • CD/DVD-RW (taken from my current desktop)

> Pcpartpicker

> Tweakers

And a summary of questions I thought of:

• As mentioned above, I'd like to know if I can connect the fan hub to my psu through the available 6-pin port.
• Will I be able to control both PWM fans from a single header on my MOBO? If you can even use these fans for that. (I believe it only has 1 port for a cpu cooler.)
• If I cannot control both fans from my Mobo, is there an "elegant" way of doing so?
• If those fans aren't suited for being a heatsink fan, any suggestions?
• Any tips on a program I can use to transfer windows from my HDD to the SSD?

 

Of course, feel free to leave any suggestions or tips, as I'm new to building a desktop and would love to learn. Also, my excuse for any mistakes in grammar, as English isn't my native language. 

 

Additional info:

Spoiler

In reference to this post:

1. My budget is fairly flexible, however, please don't give me a €400 suggestion for a single fan.  I live in the Netherlands and therefore use EUR, but I am not afraid to spend some dollars if something is cheaper when purchased abroad with shipping.

 

2. I am mostly looking for a desktop that I can game on. For me, this includes anything from Battlefield 4 to Payday 2 to Minecraft and old CD/DVD era games. (like Roller Coaster Tycoon)

 

3. I plan on having 2 monitors at most. However, I am currently running 1 older monitor, which I believe is a 1080p screen. (I frankly have no idea. When I switch to 720p though, it uses the upper right part of my screen.)

 

4. I currently do not need to purchase any peripherals. I do however want to transfer windows from my HDD to the SSD.

 

5. I am upgrading due to having purchased the division and not being able to get a playable framerate. (My current GPU a AMD 6700/7600 series. No I am not certain, but does that really matter? )

 

[Moonzy]

welcome to the forums

remember to quote or mention the person you're replying so they'll get a notification

 

8 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

Can I use this 6-pin connection to power the fan hub, or do I need to change something?

does the fan hub use molex/sata? i havent seen any fan hub use pcie power `-`

if it only relies on your motherboard header to power 10 fans, dont even use it lol

10 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

(For push-pull on the heatsink) 

i doubt you will see a significant difference in temps especially if you're not overclocking

stick with 1 fan, its more than enough

10 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

Hyper 212 EVO accesories pack (for the mounting brackets, as I'd rather avoid zipties on the visible side)

doesnt the 212 evo come with the necessary mounting brackets already? you have to buy them externally?

11 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

• As mentioned above, I'd like to know if I can connect the fan hub to my psu through the available 6-pin port.
• Will I be able to control both PWM fans from a single header on my MOBO? If you can even use these fans for that. (I believe it only has 1 port for a cpu cooler.)
• If I cannot control both fans from my Mobo, is there an "elegant" way of doing so?
• If those fans aren't suited for being a heatsink fan, any suggestions?
• Any tips on a program I can use to transfer windows from my HDD to the SSD?

1) answered above lol

2) you can use splitters to control two fans with one header, make sure you get PWM fan splitter for PWM fans

3) PWM fan hub, yours is a 3 pin fan hub, so 4 pin fans wont be able to plug in (so is the grid+, correct me if im wrong), so check carefully before purchasing

you can also get NZXT's Sentry 3, its a nice way to control your fans too

4) the fans are fine, the hyper 212 isnt that hard to get air through

5) you can find disk cloning software, but your ssd must be as big as or bigger than your hdd for them to work

normally i just recommend people to install a clean copy of windows, so there are no old drivers and what not that might cause issues

 

if possible, you can list your parts in pcpartpicker.com, it makes it easy for us to look at everything at once since everyone around here uses it

[y_unit265]

 

6 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

does the fan hub use molex/sata? i havent seen any fan hub use pcie power `-`

if it only relies on your motherboard header to power 10 fans, dont even use it lol

The fan hub includes a Molex to 3pin power adapter and a 3pin female to female adapter. Am I able to use the molex adapter to plug it into the PSU via a adapter from 6pin to molex?

6 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

i doubt you will see a significant difference in temps especially if you're not overclocking

stick with 1 fan, its more than enough

 

doesnt the 212 evo come with the necessary mounting brackets already? you have to buy them externally?

The 212 comes with 2 brackets, and I'd need 4 if I were to use 2 fans. (Or so I believe) And with the fans not being the expensive part, they are more for symmetrical looks than anything else.  

 

9 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

3) PWM fan hub, yours is a 3 pin fan hub, so 4 pin fans wont be able to plug in (so is the grid+, correct me if im wrong), so check carefully before purchasing

The r3 fans are 3 pin. However would it be worth paying the extra €20 for the management of my fans (as I believe the 10 fan hub doesn't allow you to control the fans.)

 

14 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

if possible, you can list your parts in pcpartpicker.com, it makes it easy for us to look at everything at once since everyone around here uses it

Listed the parts I could find through pcpartpicker and tweakers (A site my friend referred me to.)

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

Am I able to use the molex adapter to plug it into the PSU via a adapter from 6pin to molex?

probably yea, pcie 6 pin to molex

3 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

However would it be worth paying the extra €20 for the management of my fans (as I believe the 10 fan hub doesn't allow you to control the fans.)

i would highly suggest you get a fan hub that can control your fans, or it'll sound like a wind tunnel

4 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

Listed the parts I could find through pcpartpicker and tweakers (A site my friend referred me to.)

looks ok

[y_unit265]

11 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

i would highly suggest you get a fan hub that can control your fans, or it'll sound like a wind tunnel

Would you have any recommendations for a 3pin fan controller? As that was the only one I could find  Of course any 5,25" would also work, since I still have a bay free.

[Moonzy]

5 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

Would you have any recommendations for a 3pin fan controller? As that was the only one I could find  Of course any 5,25" would also work, since I still have a bay free.

https://www.nzxt.com/products/sentry-3

 

or a PWM fan hub, but i have a PWM fan hub and its not working (maybe i did something wrong but bleh)

[y_unit265]

40 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

probably yea, pcie 6 pin to molex

I'd also like to know a little bit about this, I've seen 3pin and 4 pin molex cables. Are they compatible or will that give me an issue?

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

I'd also like to know a little bit about this, I've seen 3pin and 4 pin molex cables. Are they compatible or will that give me an issue?

if the molex are missing a couple pins, that means its not needed by the thing you're connecting so its probably fine

[y_unit265]

9 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

if the molex are missing a couple pins, that means its not needed by the thing you're connecting so its probably fine

That is my current problem. The fan hubs use a 4 pin molex, but I believe that when you use a pcie 6pin to molex, it splits into 3 pin molex's.

[Moonzy]

Just now, y_unit265 said:

That is my current problem. The fan hubs use a 4 pin molex, but I believe that when you use a pcie 6pin to molex, it splits into 3 pin molex's.

hmm yes, maybe because 6 pin doesnt have the voltage of the last pin

doesnt your psu comes with molex? i know most do

or you can get sata to molex converter?

[y_unit265]

5 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

hmm yes, maybe because 6 pin doesnt have the voltage of the last pin

doesnt your psu comes with molex? i know most do

or you can get sata to molex converter?

Suprisingly enough, I thought that every sata port could only power 1 thing. Then I looked at the cables and realized that there appear to be 3 connectors on each sata 6pin slot   So that should free up 3 instead of 1 6-pin slots on my psu.

However, I still can't find a 6pin to 4 pin molex cable? (I believe all the fan hubs use a 4pin molex cable.)

[Moonzy]

4 minutes ago, y_unit265 said:

Suprisingly enough, I thought that every sata port could only power 1 thing. Then I looked at the cables and realized that there appear to be 3 connectors on each sata 6pin slot   So that should free up 3 instead of 1 6-pin slots on my psu.

However, I still can't find a 6pin to 4 pin molex cable? (I believe all the fan hubs use a 4pin molex cable.)

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html

according to this website, 6 pin only have 12v while molex have 5v and 12v

so you wont be able to get the 5v line from the 6 pin connector

 

but seriously, doesnt your psu come with molex cables? or sata cables? sata can be converted to molex because sata have all 3 voltages, 3.3, 5, and 12

 

the evga g2 should come with molex

[y_unit265]

10 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

but seriously, doesnt your psu come with molex cables? or sata cables? sata can be converted to molex because sata have all 3 voltages, 3.3, 5, and 12

I see, so I'd have to go from a 6pin to sata on my psu, and then from a sata to molex? Man, You just have to love technology  

[Moonzy]

Just now, y_unit265 said:

I see, so I'd have to go from a 6pin to sata on my psu, and then from a sata to molex? Man, You just have to love technology  

that wont work either, because you still dont have 5V

[y_unit265]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

that wont work either, because you still dont have 5V

Alright. I found this image of the included power connectors. However I can't quite tell if the perif cable has a 4pin or a 3pin molex. 

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, y_unit265 said:

Alright. I found this image of the included power connectors. However I can't quite tell if the perif cable has a 4pin or a 3pin molex. 

if its from the psu, its sure to have all the pins

and the two cables above the screws are molex cables, so you're good to go

[y_unit265]

32 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

if its from the psu, its sure to have all the pins

and the two cables above the screws are molex cables, so you're good to go

Great ^^ Guess it is time for me to move on and start throwing some data at excell and see how I can get everything the cheapest.

 

 Thanks for your help